Am I supposed to be attracted to people? :-/

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21 Dec 2015, 5:27 pm

I think most people only seek romantic companionship because they have "Noah's Ark Syndrome" - get yourself a mate or perish in the flood. I would rather be alone and happy than be with someone and miserable.



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21 Dec 2015, 5:31 pm

Not me...I'm actually attracted to ladies! And I want to hug them, caress them, etc. within the context of a relationship.

I don't feel any need to have kids--though I sometimes regret not having them--but not because of Noah's Ark Syndrome or whatever. I see dads having fun with their kids, and I think of being a parent as forcing you to grow up, and make something of yourself. I would also feel pleasure in talking about my kid like a proud dad.

I don't have that in my life.

And I feel bad about that.

But, still, I am still afraid to have children.



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21 Dec 2015, 5:52 pm

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I think you should be able to choose as well.

This is the age of choice, with all the bad and good that comes with it.

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I'm just curious though. Like at an evolutionary standpoint why do people have a certain sexuality. For example why are some people gay, even though thats not good from an evolutionary standpoint. I have no problem with people being gay or straight or whatever.


I have strong personal feelings about homosexuality, but I won't discuss those here...

Actually, when you stop to think about it, from an "evolutionary standpoint" same sex relations makes perfect sense.

The world is overpopulated with humans and is struggling to contain them all, this isn't because the earth lacks the capacity to support a large human population, but because our uniquely selfish choices are making things difficult.

Evolution is going "Oh f**k... At this rate, humanity is going to eat itself out of house and home if I don't do something fast!" though sadly evolution isn't... Wasn't fast enough to keep pace with humanities advancement.

We're set to run out of Oil in 40 years, but before that happens we're going to run out of freshwater. Expect dehydration to be the leading cause of death withing the next decade or two, especially in poor dry countries.


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21 Dec 2015, 6:00 pm

Idealist wrote:
Starfoxx wrote:
I think you should be able to choose as well.

This is the age of choice, with all the bad and good that comes with it.

Starfoxx wrote:
I'm just curious though. Like at an evolutionary standpoint why do people have a certain sexuality. For example why are some people gay, even though thats not good from an evolutionary standpoint. I have no problem with people being gay or straight or whatever.


I have strong personal feelings about homosexuality, but I won't discuss those here...

Actually, when you stop to think about it, from an "evolutionary standpoint" same sex relations makes perfect sense.

The world is overpopulated with humans and is struggling to contain them all, this isn't because the earth lacks the capacity to support a large human population, but because our uniquely selfish choices are making things difficult.

Evolution is going "Oh f**k... At this rate, humanity is going to eat itself out of house and home if I don't do something fast!" though sadly evolution isn't... Wasn't fast enough to keep pace with humanities advancement.

We're set to run out of Oil in 40 years, but before that happens we're going to run out of freshwater. Expect dehydration to be the leading cause of death withing the next decade or two, especially in poor dry countries.

That's true it does make sense if you think about it that way. However people don't choose their sexuality they just have it. It's pretty cool though because it suggests that there's some sort of link, as if the universe makes people gay because it has an awareness of overpopulation lol. Or maybe it's just me who thinks that.



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21 Dec 2015, 6:10 pm

I honestly don't believe that evolution makes people gay because of overpopulation.

I'm not saying that being gay is "unnatural," by the way.

I believe there are gay people, and there are straight people, and there are people of alternative sexuality. I don't think evolution has anything to do with all this. I think it's because of our uniquely human minds, personally.



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21 Dec 2015, 6:16 pm

Starfoxx wrote:
However people don't choose their sexuality they just have it.


I disagree...

Starfoxx wrote:
It's pretty cool though because it suggests that there's some sort of link, as if the universe makes people gay because it has an awareness of overpopulation.


The evolution of our culture and society is of one that has recently recovered from the oppression of Christianity and Tyrannical Monarchs that enforced it's will to protect their claims to the throne. We're now living in a society that, while more open, is still constrained by old philosophies. It likes to put people in nice little boxes with appropriate labels. People who are placed in these boxes believe that they can find love withing that box, because all aspects of society reinforce that belief and active applaud it. Of course, it's quite possible to live a happy life without ever leaving ones own little box, so very few people question the good thing they've been blessed with.


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21 Dec 2015, 6:20 pm

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I honestly don't believe that evolution makes people gay because of overpopulation.

I'm not saying that being gay is "unnatural," by the way.

I believe there are gay people, and there are straight people, and there are people of alternative sexuality. I don't think evolution has anything to do with all this. I think it's because of our uniquely human minds, personally.


Not all evolution involves genetics.

Culture, Philosophy, Science, Society, ect. These can have evolve over time, and follow their own kind of evolution.


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21 Dec 2015, 6:21 pm

Idealist wrote:
Starfoxx wrote:
However people don't choose their sexuality they just have it.


I disagree...


And I have to disagree here. I didn't choose to be straight and my brother did not choose to be gay.



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21 Dec 2015, 6:22 pm

Thing is though if sexuality is a choice I'd just be straight. It would be much easier and less strange. I've just assumed I was for ages.



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21 Dec 2015, 6:25 pm

andrethemoogle wrote:
Idealist wrote:
Starfoxx wrote:
However people don't choose their sexuality they just have it.


I disagree...


And I have to disagree here. I didn't choose to be straight and my brother did not choose to be gay.


I still disagree, but again, I won't discuss this here.


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21 Dec 2015, 7:19 pm

Yes...absolutely there are other types of Evolution. I thought you were alluding solely to the biological type.



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23 Dec 2015, 7:59 am

I'm not too edjukatid on evolution, but isn't random mutation the entire point? All potential configurations of sexuality as a concept are expressed and always have been; some live on, some die out.

For what it's worth, I know someone who is in foster care, being very well looked after by a gay couple. In the time he's been living with them, he's stopped being violent at school, started getting good grades, is a lot less chaotic and sad...
So whilst those two men can't biologically reproduce, they are [i]facilitating[/] further evolution by giving that kid a decent life. Does that make sense?

As to your original question Starfoxx, I don't think there's anything wrong with not feeling attraction to people in a 'traditional' sense. Perhaps you might feel it one day, or perhaps you might find a friend who shares your lack of inclination towards physical intimacy and fulfils the role of 'someone to hang out and do stuff with.' either way, you're cool. Be you :)


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23 Dec 2015, 8:54 am

Is it odd? Probably but does that matter? Asexuality I don't really understand, I think it's much more nurture and environment that causes that than anything in your biology. I suppose us on the spectrum have funny ways of coping with things, I imagine most asexual people have some sort of physical or mental trauma in their background or take some sort or libido killing medicine. It's not [i]wrong[i] but different.

I am jealous of people who can be so fulfilled and happy with their lives totally on their own, I have not figured that out yet.



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23 Dec 2015, 2:36 pm

Cheers for your replies guys



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24 Dec 2015, 4:09 pm

Yes, it's normal



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24 Dec 2015, 4:41 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Is it odd? Probably but does that matter? Asexuality I don't really understand, I think it's much more nurture and environment that causes that than anything in your biology. I suppose us on the spectrum have funny ways of coping with things, I imagine most asexual people have some sort of physical or mental trauma in their background or take some sort or libido killing medicine. It's not [i]wrong[i] but different.


You've got it all wrong. Neurodiverse asexuality has nothing to do with libido or environment. It's a disgust reaction to using sex for attachment. Also, using sex for attachment is a unique neurotypical human adaption that is really dysfunctional for advanced cultures.

Additionally, the suggestion that asexuality is caused by trauma is ridiculous and insulting for asexual people.