What unusual things are attractive to you in a partner?

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I didn't say they like insensitive jerks, you are putting words in my mouth now, and you have totally twisted the meaning of what I said.

I said they don't like men to show any weakness, know the difference in the meaning; they want (good) men who show no weakness.

And I am not talking about lifelong depression cases - that's a totally different subject, I was saying, in my experience, as a man, if I show or express a weakness even for a very short while, women dismiss it in the way I explained in the previous post, men do the same to other men; so obviously they generally don't like it. And I am sure many men sensed that.

I don't know if this is really something specific to dating then. More society in general, encouraging everyone to be insecure with showing emotions. "If you show emotions, you'll be eaten alive"... I was raised that way too, and if I have kids, I'd definitely not want to teach them that. It'd be unhealthy for them both in everyday life and in relationships. Especially in relationships actually, as not showing emotions can cause so many misunderstandings and intimacy issues.

The literal translation of the equivalent proverb here is: "If you are not a wolf, you will be eaten by wolves."

Quit assuming all women are carbon copies of the ones you've had unpleasant interactions with. Also stop accusing women here of lying about what they find attractive when it doesn't fit what you think the general view of women must be it's obnoxious as hell. Yes some people think any sign of weakness is terrible, some of them are women....Not all women think 'any man who shows any weakness is unworthy' I don't think that and no I am not
lying.

And what you think you more about what most females here want, than the females here? A rather bold claim I think.[/quote]

I said most, you what most means? besides by 'you' , I was referring to MissAlgeron because she said "I really like sensitive guys. Not the kind of fragile person who cries all the time, " - now I dunno what she means by crying all time because this certainly would be problematic and unattractive, but I think the 'all time' part was an exaggeration to express how much she dislikes fragility in men, my gut feeling says that she wouldn't like any kind of fragility, even temporarily, in men - which is the case of most women I have ever seen so far.

Men/boys are generally more stressed to live by this code, especially for all weakness-related emotions (whereas emotions related to power and romance are encouraged) this is an undeniable cross-cultural social fact proven by many social studies.

Women generally can express weakness all fine, men...not much, even in the most trivial matter.

For example...If for a moment I looked in the mirror, and expressed concern or sadness about my balding, the *usual* women's response to that (based on experience, I am not inventing this) would be "you are a man, it's not a big deal". There was no instance where I showed or opened up about some weakness/vulnerability (Whether it is something big or trivial) to a woman, only for the latter to dismiss and ridicule it - something that I don't do it to them when they expressed weakness. So yeah, this certain affects dating too.

We are pattern-observant people here, and this is a pattern I have seen a lot.

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All the emotions she mentioned that she likes in men are positive emotions ie. "loves animals, children and cute things ; and even more, who values empathy, altruism, feelings" - this isn't the same as showing weakness: emotions like expressing sadness, opening up about anxieties, fear ...etc.

Culture and media encourages men to express emotions related romance and power, but not weakeness.

She talked unfavorably about crying and fragility in men for instance.

MissAlgernon, your boyfriend is wise , he figured out exactly what I have figured out - how often he expressed his weaknesses after you told him that? Did something change?

Showing sadness and fear does not make one weak: it shows that they are able to express their emotions instead of hiding them.
"Crying when you need to cry is another way of showing strength." --Fai Fluorite, Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle

Nice poetry Kuradeau, but that's not how people perceive crying men (unless it's for mourning a close dead person then it becomes justified, I only see men openly crying at funerals).

Try to cry in front of your boss at work, and good luck at getting promoted in the future.

I know first hand that if I hold my emotions in, I'll just end up having a meltdown and/or crying at school, and I'll just create more problems for myself. Anyway, could we get back on topic here? I'm getting kind of tired of all the arguing.