Oneitis and Manic Pixie Dream Girl problems?

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I've never seen a neckbeard wear sunglasses.

I'm starting to think that's just your word Devilkisses for 'dorky/ugly/unfashionable'.

Fair enough, that makes sense, as that's what neckbeards are typically like.

Okay, narrowed it down, which of these styles would you recommend?

http://www.ray-ban.com/usa/sunglasses/R ... 3672301199

http://www.ray-ban.com/usa/sunglasses/R ... 3672508147

http://www.ray-ban.com/usa/sunglasses/R ... 3672349092

http://www.ray-ban.com/usa/sunglasses/R ... 3672394504

I see black or blue and silver/white as the best fitting colors to my clothes. Brown glasses to me wouldn't fit.

This discussion is depressing.

Why?

So it started with me complaining of being single and alone, and then me of asking for feedback on improving me general appearance. Kind of a logical topic progression, really.

It'll probably head in the direction of improving my personality eventually.

It's not that. It's just the whole appearance-based group-identity thing depresses me. You should be able to just dress however you want without it pertaining to some cultural stereotype. I think as long as you look good (and you do) it shouldn't really matter. Unfortunately people in your age range can be pretty shallow. Fortunately it does get better the older you get.

Ultimately, as long as you wear clean, well-fitting clothes, and show yourself to be a smart person who listens, you can attract most girls.

Yes. He looks good. I don't see why he should have to focus on looking "cool". He might not like the "cool" girls he attracts that way, as much as he doesn't like the "bro" types - or whatever.

I just want to look good to, first and foremost, myself, and secondly, to the types I'm trying to attract.

It seems nerdy/geeky/average/typical type people are far more apathetic about their appearance and desire other people who are the same, though.

For instance, a high school friend posted a recent pic to facebook. Looks like a stereotypical neckbeard geek, like he always has. Long, scruffy, messy hair, acne, round/babyfaced facial features, prescription glasses, had a pink fedora/trilby hat, and a black regular t-shirt with a fake suit style on it. He does not work-out but just cardio. He at least has the confidence to look how he wants to.

I'm just not like this anymore, and in recent years have become very focused on looking nice, clean and attractive.

Maybe the clothing makes no difference, and good-looking people can look good regardless, but it still makes me FEEL better looking when I dress sharply.

If he has every right to dress the way he does because he wants to, then I do as well. If my way is more attractive by fashion standards, that just means I want to choose to look good by fashion standards.

I made a new thread showing all the new styles I've been seeking out here: viewtopic.php?t=307600

If you need some sort of sign I would still dress how I want to, I wouldn't mind trying to pull off this nearly 100-years old style:

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http://www.mensfashion01.xyz/wp-content ... magesf.jpg

You're into clothes. That's cool. You're also into being clean. Even cooler.

I was not advocating, at all, that you should look sloppy.

Remember when I emphasized CLEAN and WELL-FITTING?

I don't think any girl will ever reject you for dressing too nice, or being too clean-cut. They might just be intimidated because they don't know you and make the wrong assumptions. In that case you just have to approach them and get to know them so they aren't intimidated. I don't think you have to alter how you dress for "nerdy" girls. Once they get to know you they will no longer care. They will just appreciate that you're handsome. They won't think you're a "prep" or "bro" or whatever. It's just that if they are shy you'll have to make the initial approach.

Maybe I should just accept it if it ever happens, but I dislike the idea of anyone considering themselves 'so lucky' if I were to give them attention.

I sure hope I don't come across as intimidating.

If I haven't made it clear enough, I want to be 'That handsome guy who I'd love to get to know' to girls, not 'That super handsome guy who I obviously would never have a chance with. '.

I have a good self-esteem, and dislike the idea of leagues.

I don't consider myself 'lucky' to end up with any particular person.

If I end up dating the type of person I want, I'd be happy yet grateful, but certainly wouldn't feel like 'the luckiest guy in the world/you're too good for me, I can't compare, I don't deserve you, etc.'

I'd certainly not want a girl I show attention/attraction to think that of me, but rather see me as an equal.

Luckily my second girlfriend was like this. Headstrong and independent.

It seems though the only females that give me attention are the super attractive ones, as they are the only one's not intimidated by my appearance as they feel confident I'm in the same 'league' as them.

Always couldn't stand the idea of leagues...

And that's just what my experiences have been, marshall. Nerdier/shyer/more average girls haven't given me attention in public. I don't ever get looks or anything from them. It's always the attractive, shallow, alpha divas that give me attention, and it's THEY who usually approach me. I've been catcalled by some at least twice, possibly a few more times than that.

I think I only ever remember once that a more average looking girl kept looking at me and checking me out.

Oh well. I guess it's all about just putting myself out there more and I'll get attention from a more diverse range of people. Sometimes I get attention from more average or normal people or nerdy females, but more often than not it's not them.

Another topic shift: Actually getting out and meeting new people.

Long story short, it's virtually impossible where I live. Did you see my post here? viewtopic.php?t=306530&start=120

kraftiekortie strongly encourages university for me.

Aviators are what I'd pick and do wear.

Non prescription hiptser glasses are a deal breaker for me .... unfortunately true story


yep

Aviators are okay, but not really my thing. I just can't stand wearing thin framed meta/plastic glasses. I ned something thicker thramed and plastic Feels far more comfortable and much better held in place than thin framed ones that just bounce everywhere and tick me off.