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26 Apr 2016, 6:39 pm

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Read the cracked link about statistics. There's a higher number than 2. You're not doing the maths.

Women are not sharks. They won't actually eat you.

Ignore the people who don't show an interest and look for the compatible ones. Stop focusing on the negative. It's like panning for gold. Sieve out the soil.

Yes I know I was simpfiying it. Whether it's 20/30/40% it still means more men then women willing to date them.

See the problem is no women show interest in me except thos who aren't compatible. And the ones who are compatible see me as worthless because I don't make enough



I don't think that money has anything to do with it, I'm to become a research scientist and earn decent money while my boyfriend is a working class ballet shoe maker.

Maybe it is you who puts too much focus on money and women certainly won't appreciate that kind of thinking that makes them out to be so callous



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27 Apr 2016, 12:07 am

Alliekit wrote:
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Read the cracked link about statistics. There's a higher number than 2. You're not doing the maths.

Women are not sharks. They won't actually eat you.

Ignore the people who don't show an interest and look for the compatible ones. Stop focusing on the negative. It's like panning for gold. Sieve out the soil.

Yes I know I was simpfiying it. Whether it's 20/30/40% it still means more men then women willing to date them.

See the problem is no women show interest in me except thos who aren't compatible. And the ones who are compatible see me as worthless because I don't make enough



I don't think that money has anything to do with it, I'm to become a research scientist and earn decent money while my boyfriend is a working class ballet shoe maker.

Maybe it is you who puts too much focus on money and women certainly won't appreciate that kind of thinking that makes them out to be so callous

Maybe you're rare, maybe you're in another country and society then me?

Freak in threads here us women have said the same things I've repeated from women on dating sites, Craigslist forums, blogs, tv shows, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

I don't care about money one bit. I have every object I need/really want. I have electronic devices galore, I have many guns that I've started getting type repeats. Been buying shave soaps because I don't know what else to do and it gives me momentary happiness but soon I'll be maxed out on that too and out of objects to by for brief happiness :(

Don't beleive me read threads here, or I can link you to my areas Craigslist or you can check out USA dating site women's profiles. I'm not the only one to notice this and it's not limited to guys, I've had women from Europe and some from us say they see it too.

Way way way too much evidence for me to just be making it all up. I was rais poor by a poor family who was from poor family from a poor family. We've never had money and been fine and happy without it. I'm the one of the least superficial people. I like my job if not for the stress and women I have to interactive with.

Problems not with me. Other then women see everything about me as a problem because I don't meet the societies definition of a real man.

You seem nice so please no I'm not trying to be mean to you, but it upsets me when people who don't know anything about life where I live or in my nation and culture tell me I'm just making it all up.

If you read the profiles and posts daily like I do you'd probably start to not like women too.
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27 Apr 2016, 12:54 am

^^Maybe they just don't want someone who always feels hard done by and can't be happy with what they have.

I am with my boyfriend because despite the fact he has no money he is happy and is thankful for what he does have. If you have all this money then why are they still looking down on you



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27 Apr 2016, 1:13 am

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^^Maybe they just don't want someone who always feels hard done by and can't be happy with what they have.

I am with my boyfriend because despite the fact he has no money he is happy and is thankful for what he does have. If you have all this money then why are they still looking down on you

Well by all regards leave your because and be happy alone or stop telling others to be happy alone.

Not sure what feeling hard done means.

He's happy because he has a gf and other things he likes.

Really only serves to prove my point.
I've never been loved by a woman never. It's the only thing I want in life. Most people want and need it. If I was happy alone I'd tell all women to f**k off. Really only point of a relationship is love and companionship to bring Happiness. If it didn't there'd be no reason for relationships. Tired of people who are in relationships telling us lonley singles to just be happy alone forever. Like rich telling homeless starving people to be happy starving to death.

Imagine your be left you and you have to spend every day for the rest of your life unloved. See if you'd keep happy. :(



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27 Apr 2016, 1:16 am

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^^Maybe they just don't want someone who always feels hard done by and can't be happy with what they have.

I am with my boyfriend because despite the fact he has no money he is happy and is thankful for what he does have. If you have all this money then why are they still looking down on you

Well by all regards leave your because and be happy alone or stop telling others to be happy alone.

Not sure what feeling hard done means.


The sentence doesn't make sense could you reword it please?

It means like feeling sorry for yourself. I find that people like being around people who are happy so I thought maybe if you find happiness before dating you might have better luck. You often dislike your self in posts



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27 Apr 2016, 1:22 am

I had happiness then I got lonely so I tried dating now I'm depressed all the time from women telling me I'm worthless trash who's not good enough to talk to them. I was better off in highschool where I had barely any interest in women. Wish you'd get it women caused this and only women can fix it.

Closest equivalent would be if ever guy you met called your fat and so not worth dating. It build and builds and builds, if every man you met put you down over and over. Day after day after day. This is what it's like to be a worthless guy. I've been out down by women constantly every where every day for the past 6 years.

It's destroyed my self esteem, happiness, and joy in anything I do.

There's no escape not even here where women say the same stuff.

If I kill myself will they be happy then.idk but I consider it bit often. I just don't know how to do so without pain.



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27 Apr 2016, 1:39 am

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I had happiness then I got lonely so I tried dating now I'm depressed all the time from women telling me I'm worthless trash who's not good enough to talk to them. I was better off in highschool where I had barely any interest in women. Wish you'd get it women caused this and only women can fix it.

Closest equivalent would be if ever guy you met called your fat and so not worth dating. It build and builds and builds, if every man you met put you down over and over. Day after day after day. This is what it's like to be a worthless guy. I've been out down by women constantly every where every day for the past 6 years.

It's destroyed my self esteem, happiness, and joy in anything I do.

There's no escape not even here where women say the same stuff.

If I kill myself will they be happy then.idk but I consider it bit often. I just don't know how to do so without pain.


Look I've been exactly in your position but getting into a relationship isn't going to be a fix. I still struggle now but the only way I got out of that dark place was by finding a purpose for myself that didn't require others

The scenario you describe was my life for a long time so much so that I did attempt ya know... but I promise you its really not worth it



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27 Apr 2016, 1:46 am

:roll: women cause this and only women can fix it. If I'd got s gf 6 years ago I'd still be happy. Instead I'm deemed as worthless and my happiness is wrong.

Most the planet drivers happiness from others it's a common thing. I'm a people person I can't change that. I wasn't born a person who hate people and gets happy from Doug tasks or collecting trains. It's quit annoying that it's often the latter aspie women end up with then complain the aspie don't love them. No s**t he enjoyed things not people.

I've always gotten happiness from being around people. I suppose I'm more extrovert, I need it to be happy, I don't enjoy doing things alone. If no ones on I don't play my video games it's not fun alone. Why is it find for nt extroverts to be this way and most people but not for worthless aspie guys?

My depression solely derives from dating and women.

What you say would be true if my depression was from other things like. Failed ambition, or not meeting my goals. But it's not. Only thing that'll make it better is a gf who loves me how I am and for who I am. Then I can be me without having to care about what mean women say.



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27 Apr 2016, 1:51 am

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I had happiness then I got lonely so I tried dating now I'm depressed all the time from women telling me I'm worthless trash who's not good enough to talk to them. I was better off in highschool where I had barely any interest in women. Wish you'd get it women caused this and only women can fix it.


I've never heard of stranger women telling guys they are worthless trash. This simply has to be in your imagination only. I don't think women caused your problems, rather you did yourself by buying into whatever strange concepts of how women were supposed to be that you happened to get hold off, probably mostly online. The only fix for this is for YOU to unlearn how women are and do a fresh start with no assumptions.



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27 Apr 2016, 1:55 am

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I had happiness then I got lonely so I tried dating now I'm depressed all the time from women telling me I'm worthless trash who's not good enough to talk to them. I was better off in highschool where I had barely any interest in women. Wish you'd get it women caused this and only women can fix it.


I've never heard of stranger women telling guys they are worthless trash. This simply has to be in your imagination only. I don't think women caused your problems, rather you did yourself by buying into whatever strange concepts of how women was supposed to be that you happened to get hold off, probably mostly online. The only fix for this is for YOU to unlearn how women are and do a fresh start with no assumptions.


He's and say real men are only white isn't racism.

Saying real mean are ____ . ,earns any men who are not ______ are worthless.
Your either good enough to date women ar your worthless, there no between. If somethings not good it's a bad.

No only thing is for women to change and not be so f*****g superficial. Wish I was born in 1920 before women worked and felt they better then men.

Walk 4 minutes in my schools and you'd shoot yourself

Really don't get how you two can ignor the facts in your face. The women here say the same shot and you ignore it. I post examples from profiles and adds and you ignore it.mi tell you of women saying it I front of me and you ignore it. You'd rather beleive your own narratives of women being kind and sweet and romantic and willing to date homeless men then accept realty.

Wish anyone unwilling to accept the truth and help me find a way around it or find a woman who's not like the majority would jut stop depressing me. Starting to wonder why I bother waking up. I knew this job wouldn't help and it hasn't. It's no better then not having a job it seems :(



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27 Apr 2016, 2:04 am

You all are trying to get me to beleive the sky is red
But the sky is blue it's f*****g blue



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27 Apr 2016, 2:09 am

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Your either good enough to date women ar your worthless, there no between. If somethings not good it's a bad.


Dating is a superficial method to relationships, so you are the one being superficial. :mrgreen:

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No only thing is for women to change and not be so f*****g superficial. Wish I was born in 1920 before women worked and felt they better then men.


Women won't change, and neither do men. You cannot follow a strategy that requires women to change because that will simply not happen. Instead, you need to find the women that are good for you and ignore the bad ones.

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Really don't get how you two can ignor the facts in your face. The women here say the same shot and you ignore it. I post examples from profiles and adds and you ignore it.mi tell you of women saying it I front of me and you ignore it. You'd rather beleive your own narratives of women being kind and sweet and romantic and willing to date homeless men then accept realty.


I've already told you how to avoid being judged on socio-economic factors: Avoid dating and don't tell them about such things. That's an excellent way to find compatible girls.

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Wish anyone unwilling to accept the truth and help me find a way around it or find a woman who's not like the majority would jut stop depressing me. Starting to wonder why I bother waking up. I knew this job wouldn't help and it hasn't. It's no better then not having a job it seems :(


A job helps in making you more independent, so that's always good. You shouldn't get a job because of women.



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27 Apr 2016, 2:12 am

Dating is just two people talking and spending time together with the mutual goal of seeing if s romantic relationship can come form it. Nothing superficial about it.

It'd be superficial if I only messaged thin cheerleader types.

I've never ever ever talked to or been around s girl for too long before she ask what job I have, where o live,mwhat I drive. I've never seen the mystical exception woman who doesn't care except for women who live too far away to ever prove they don't care because a relationship is impossible.



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27 Apr 2016, 2:33 am

Alliekit wrote:
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I had happiness then I got lonely so I tried dating now I'm depressed all the time from women telling me I'm worthless trash who's not good enough to talk to them. I was better off in highschool where I had barely any interest in women. Wish you'd get it women caused this and only women can fix it.

Closest equivalent would be if ever guy you met called your fat and so not worth dating. It build and builds and builds, if every man you met put you down over and over. Day after day after day. This is what it's like to be a worthless guy. I've been out down by women constantly every where every day for the past 6 years.

It's destroyed my self esteem, happiness, and joy in anything I do.

There's no escape not even here where women say the same stuff.

If I kill myself will they be happy then.idk but I consider it bit often. I just don't know how to do so without pain.


Look I've been exactly in your position but getting into a relationship isn't going to be a fix. I still struggle now but the only way I got out of that dark place was by finding a purpose for myself that didn't require others

The scenario you describe was my life for a long time so much so that I did attempt ya know... but I promise you its really not worth it


But for some people that truly is the solution.

For some people, our depression is caused purely by loneliness and nothing else.

And the only inevitable answer to loneliness, is to actually find people to care for and people who care about you and to spend time with them and have fun with them.

I consider social interaction a need just as hunger or sleep might be.

Without social interaction one's mental and physical state deteriorates.

You can say 'social interaction isn't a need - you won't die without it' but for most people who don't have it, they eventually will decay to insanity.

Social interaction, positive social interaction, of all kinds is important.

So, with that said, if you feel hungry, what is the answer to solving your issue?

Some pseudo-philsophical bullsh*t concept of 'finding yourself' and 'learning to value your solitude' or going to eat some food?

Just as if your depression is caused solely by miserable loneliness, what will solve it? Eating healthy? Exercising? Spending time on your hobbies/interests? Going to work?

How will any of these things bring more positive social interaction to your life in any possible way?

The answer is to actually seek out ways to meet new people, to befriend new people, etc.

Personally, I spend a significant time on my hobbies and interests and enjoy them greatly, I spend time building skills as a musician and increasing my fitness. I eat healthy, exercise, get plenty of rest and go to a social group 1-3 times a week. I volunteer 1-2 days a week. I care about my hygiene and health significantly. I mediatate as often as possible, I use various other stress-relief techniques. I get the right amount of sleep every night.

And, suprirse suprirse, due to not having any friends nearby to hang out with and spend time with, and due to being single and miseerably loneyly, I'm not as happy as I could be.

Being in relationships in the past, while they didn't solve my problems, did make me slightly happier all the time.

Just as having good friends also makes me feel slightly happier all the time.

But that slightness means the world to me and is usually what I need to keep myself from falling into a deep depression.

I've always been borderline depressed and the more positive additions to my life, the better.

Sly definitely is already 'working on his own life first' - he mentions spending the time on his hobbies and interests, he has a job and works hard at it. He lives on his own.

Not sure if he's taking care of his health, but fact is he's made a start - and no one can appreciate that. Apparently he's still 'not doing good enough to be happy'.

No, he is doing his best but has reached the inevitable conclusion - to solve loneliness, one must actually spend time around other people.



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27 Apr 2016, 4:25 am

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For some people, our depression is caused purely by loneliness and nothing else.

And the only inevitable answer to loneliness, is to actually find people to care for and people who care about you and to spend time with them and have fun with them.

I consider social interaction a need just as hunger or sleep might be.

Without social interaction one's mental and physical state deteriorates.

You can say 'social interaction isn't a need - you won't die without it' but for most people who don't have it, they eventually will decay to insanity.


I wholeheartedly agree with this. A few years back I decided I didn't need friends, so I spent a lot of time in isolation. And guess what? I developed f*****g depression and went from a high achiever to flunking my classes.

I was happy in the past, but I've suffered potentially irreparable damage from "finding happiness in myself" now being depressed and having social anxiety, self-esteem issues, body-image issues, a terrible sleeping pattern, nightmares- it's a mess.

All the success in the world is totally pointless if you've got nobody to share it with.



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27 Apr 2016, 4:28 am

^^ Here here, finally people being realistic.