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15 May 2007, 2:44 pm

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I'm a gonna have to respond to the above postee who said something about all males being evil or something to that extenture.

Sure, that's the 90% of the male earth population, but its the 10% of us good guys out there that get the blame, sure, it is. But that's why we 10% try and make up for the 90% lack of smarts, niceness and generality in caring and all that jazz.

Sure, I'm a guy and sometimes I ave a bad rap as a guy who just wants to lay whatever female he can get his hands on(okay, so that was highschool, and many still haven't let that go) But I'm a good guy through and through, who has no problem kicking other guys butts for their stupidty and jerkosity towards women and other people in general.


Replace male with human. Maybe up the percentage too - perhaps all the
way to 100; I'm not absolutely convinced yet - but pretty close.

Here we are again with your definition of GOOD which includes
being violent - apparently in response to mere verbalisms. I'm
confused enough about ultimate good and evil to perhaps accept
that violence is good on any grounds - but dear sir, this is not the
morality that our society accepts.


I know. society's morality has done down the tubes since the days of Creation, and people go around doing what they want to do, when they do. sexuality and the way men and women are has changed dramatically over the years, and people these days have no problem doing things that people don't blink an eye at. we have become a society that has turned its back on the old ways of respect and women have become things to idolize and sleep with when the notion strikes us. that is the 90% of the male population, the 10% of the male population seek to strive and make a difference and prove to women that not all males are like that.

That is what and who I am.


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15 May 2007, 4:47 pm

And it was SO very moral to disobey the direct
order of God?

Anyhow, I am simply shocked that anyone would
consider violence preferable to a verbal slight.
There is almost no moral system - other than
those based upon Pride and such - which would
condone this. Certainly not any form of Christianity
that I am aware of. You're not only not turning
the other cheek, you're hitting first.



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15 May 2007, 4:54 pm

Now, I'm no paragon of non-violence,
but at least I see what I am, in this
respect, as imperfect. Any act of violence
can escalate into more; furthermore,
there is ALWAYS a chance of serious
injury in a fight.

As Hari Seldon put it, "Violence is the
last resort of the incompetent."



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15 May 2007, 5:19 pm

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Men and women are different. Men are often attracted to a wider range of people, so I wouldn't be surprised if one comes in here with some sceptical comment.


Judging from Sex in the City (yes that's my only source :D ), the real problem is that women demand perfection. The wider range that men are attracted to includes people who are imperfect.

"Mr. Right" on the other hand, must be a a 7-foot tall bank manager/ fighter pilot/ astronaut/ nobleman with multiple ivy league degrees, extensive equity in 6 major corporations and a 7 pound member that swings merrily to and fro with each confident stride. He should also marry you even though you are a homely convenience store clerk with acne and a GED.

You will eventually settle for less, but you will always secretly hate him for having the audacity not to be prince charming and you will make him pay for it forever in little ways until you finally wear him down to half the man he was.

No sympathy.



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15 May 2007, 5:22 pm

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Men and women are different. Men are often attracted to a wider range of people, so I wouldn't be surprised if one comes in here with some sceptical comment.


Judging from Sex in the City (yes that's my only source :D ), the real problem is that women demand perfection. The wider range that men are attracted to includes people who are imperfect.
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I don't know that men are that different.
This one isn't. But, I'm not sure that
I'll settle for less anymore, either.



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15 May 2007, 5:37 pm

So many seem to think that they deserve perfection even if they are far from perfect. Really flawed definitions of perfection.

Nobody is perfect. An individual's combinations of flaws and strengths is exactly what can cause them to be perfect in another individual's mind. The issue is finding two individuals that are "perfect" for each other. Doesn't seem to happen all that often. That only leads to people believing happiness doesn't exist, for them or in general.

It would be a lot easier if all of that data could just be run through a function or a bit of software to determine who works for who, cut out all the BS dancing around the issue and trying to figure out whether or not it is the case. And no, I'm not talking about s**t like eHarmony. That site politely informed me that I'm beyond their help. :D



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15 May 2007, 5:43 pm

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So many seem to think that they deserve perfection even if they are far from perfect. Really flawed definitions of perfection.

Nobody is perfect. An individual's combinations of flaws and strengths is exactly what can cause them to be perfect in another individual's mind. The issue is finding two individuals that are "perfect" for each other. Doesn't seem to happen all that often. That only leads to people believing happiness doesn't exist, for them or in general.

It would be a lot easier if all of that data could just be run through a function or a bit of software to determine who works for who, cut out all the BS dancing around the issue and trying to figure out whether or not it is the case. And no, I'm not talking about sh** like eHarmony. That site politely informed me that I'm beyond their help. :D


Yeah. But the perfection that one SEEKS need not
be anyone else's ideal. I highly doubt that most
men would put up with some of the aspects that
I see as a part of perfection. It's just a very rare
breed, and damned hard to find.



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15 May 2007, 5:48 pm

calandale wrote:
Yeah. But the perfection that one SEEKS need not
be anyone else's ideal.


yeah that's what I'm trying to say.



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15 May 2007, 7:50 pm

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"Mr. Right" on the other hand, must be a a 7-foot tall bank manager/ fighter pilot/ astronaut/ nobleman with multiple ivy league degrees, extensive equity in 6 major corporations and a 7 pound member that swings merrily to and fro with each confident stride. He should also marry you even though you are a homely convenience store clerk with acne and a GED.




Thats where their logic is flawed, they're looking for the wrong things in the first place. They're looking for a concept and not a person.



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15 May 2007, 8:11 pm

TechnoMonk wrote:
beautifulspam wrote:
"Mr. Right" on the other hand, must be a a 7-foot tall bank manager/ fighter pilot/ astronaut/ nobleman with multiple ivy league degrees, extensive equity in 6 major corporations and a 7 pound member that swings merrily to and fro with each confident stride. He should also marry you even though you are a homely convenience store clerk with acne and a GED.




Thats where their logic is flawed, they're looking for the wrong things in the first place. They're looking for a concept and not a person.


And thats the unfortunate part women, and I am generalizing here, often want things that are seen in movies, the perfect romance the soft yet self assured male, someone they can work on and someone who ultimately will be the perfect boyfriend/husband. Unfortunately the world does not work like this and people are flawed, even the perfect guy has a flaw, he is perfect, which is a flaw in itself.

But the same can be said of guys who want the super hotty even though they may not even be up to that league. However I have found out that usually the pretty girls have the most trouble landing a guy that they "want".

Thats my two sense, sorry for hijacking the thread.



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15 May 2007, 8:57 pm

At 42 years of age, I have accepted that I will be a "crazy cat lady." Right now, dating is not in my plans.



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15 May 2007, 10:24 pm

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Guys have to initiate contact and see how the girl responds.

Girls have to wait for a guy to initiate contact. This may never happen. If it doesn't, then the girl has to initiate contact, putting her in the same position as guys, where it is up to the guy to respond positively or negatively.


This is what makes it difficult for some aspie guys too, though. Since the girl isn't going to come to him, he has to initiate contact, which is completely terrifying if he's got love shyness (something a lot of aspie guys can get). Some of us are also fairly feminine in comparison with other guys (since we don't do as much gender conformity), so we can be seriously insecure--too insecure, at times, to approach a female we're interested in, since we expect her to react negatively due to so many past rejections.

It's a trap for both genders.



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15 May 2007, 10:25 pm

Some of us get approached, and still can't handle
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15 May 2007, 10:28 pm

calandale wrote:
Some of us get approached, and still can't handle
it.


Story of my life.



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15 May 2007, 10:35 pm

You ladies should try dating me :o :P with being Aspie my self I have a lot more empathy so nothing you would do would come across strange. We could both be strange together. lol So no worries. :D



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15 May 2007, 10:39 pm

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You ladies should try dating me :o :P with being Aspie my self I have a lot more empathy so nothing you would do would come across strange. We could both be strange together. lol So no worries. :D


Wow. Some strange new breed?

I have a great deal of empathy as well,
but I've learned to be cold.