this is payback for all the women who dont want to date me

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27 May 2007, 6:36 pm

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Thus far, all my relationships...well barring current...were with those without much or any money. In fact, one was homeless for a time.
Show me a rich as sin man...I wouldnt go with him unless I loved him before I knew of his money.

phew thats good news. just to let you know; i have a serious amount of cash grel :P



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27 May 2007, 6:38 pm

well ive been homeless too, and in mental hospitals. this is just such a nice break, whoever says they think money is sinful and dont like it is obviously a liar


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27 May 2007, 6:39 pm

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Get married?


Hang on, when did your mind come out of the gutter and mine do a half gainer?


Buggered if I know.


'tis always about the shock value.



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27 May 2007, 6:42 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
Thus far, all my relationships...well barring current...were with those without much or any money. In fact, one was homeless for a time.
Show me a rich as sin man...I wouldnt go with him unless I loved him before I knew of his money.


I WISH I could find some cute little heiress.
I have no silly restrictions here. I know how
my love works, and the money wouldn't
interfere one bit.

Though, a lesson in point, my uncle sought
out wealthy women, claiming "it's as easy to
fall in love with a rich girl as a poor one." Her
family was paupered by a revolution, and he
was left running drugs, in order to get what
he needed.



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27 May 2007, 6:43 pm

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well ive been homeless too, and in mental hospitals. this is just such a nice break, whoever says they think money is sinful and dont like it is obviously a liar


No. There are people who really do believe
that. There is also the danger of being tempted
away from one's core beliefs. Luckily, I rather
need far too much money to be true to mine,
that it would never be an issue.



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27 May 2007, 6:58 pm

Hey man!

For $10,000 I'll change teams for a day. :lol:



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27 May 2007, 7:38 pm

calandale wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
well ive been homeless too, and in mental hospitals. this is just such a nice break, whoever says they think money is sinful and dont like it is obviously a liar


No. There are people who really do believe
that. There is also the danger of being tempted
away from one's core beliefs. Luckily, I rather
need far too much money to be true to mine,
that it would never be an issue.


If you don't have money, you want it, and hate those who don't appreciate it.

If you do have money, it is quite possible to hate it. I guess you could call it a "luxury," though luxuries are usually associated with desirable extras.

Sure, it is nice to have money. It is also nice to have people with money providing for you. It can be a real pain when people assume that, because of them, you are rich, and you can afford to spend more money on their behalf. Is that as big of a difficulty as, say, starvation, or not having a roof over your head? Well, no. That being said, comparing misfortunes is a silly business.



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27 May 2007, 8:09 pm

Wow, I must be having a lower-functioning day. When I first read that I thought you meant you got $10,000 dollars for testing as HIV negative. I was like "Wow, I better go get tested and claim my ten grand before they stop doing that."

That's just how I get from working too much and not sleeping enough, I guess :lol:.



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27 May 2007, 9:20 pm

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If you don't have money, you want it, and hate those who don't appreciate it.


Not sure what you mean by "don't have money." Either way, I've been so poor that
I was on the street, so I've qualified. I don't think that I've ever hated anyone for
not appreciating what they had. Nor do I think that I would have traded what
I had, for what they did. I'm almost always closer to the sublime than
anyone else that I know.

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If you do have money, it is quite possible to hate it. I guess you could call it a "luxury," though luxuries are usually associated with desirable extras.


It is possible to despise it it you don't have it too.


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Sure, it is nice to have money. It is also nice to have people with money providing for you. It can be a real pain when people assume that, because of them, you are rich, and you can afford to spend more money on their behalf. Is that as big of a difficulty as, say, starvation, or not having a roof over your head? Well, no. That being said, comparing misfortunes is a silly business.


Is this any different than expecting that because you have time,
or the capability to love, that you can afford to spend these things
on the person? I see no fundamental difference. Not giving of what
you can is selfishness. I can tolerate someone being selfish with
strangers, but I don't think that I'd have an easy time with someone
who was very selfish, and within a relationship with me. That's not to
say that they would have to be ultimately giving, but they should give
what they can - as I do.



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27 May 2007, 10:19 pm

Quatermass, what does the name mean? I want to put an "r" in there too.

And it looks like a fancy toothbrush in the avatar to me.

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27 May 2007, 10:31 pm

calandale wrote:
Is this any different than expecting that because you have time,
or the capability to love, that you can afford to spend these things
on the person? I see no fundamental difference. Not giving of what
you can is selfishness. I can tolerate someone being selfish with
strangers, but I don't think that I'd have an easy time with someone
who was very selfish, and within a relationship with me. That's not to
say that they would have to be ultimately giving, but they should give
what they can - as I do.


I meant to differentiate between having money, and having others with money taking care of you. Some people don't seem to recognize the difference. Some people I know think that I'm rich because I live in a one person apartment, and I haven't had a time where I need money. I have barely any of my own money. Most of my day to day needs are taken care of, but I don't consider that to mean that I can spend that money however I see fit, for frivolous things. For me, or for others.

Some people I know don't understand this, and don't appreciate it, and think they can come to me whenever they need help paying for something, be it because they can't, or because they don't want to. I try to explain to them that it isn't my car, it isn't really my apartment, it isn't my money. I've merely been given access to it, but it should never be expected.



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27 May 2007, 10:34 pm

Ah. It goes beyond that too, in people expecting
that one should be willing to spend on things for
their own entertainment. Where they rather treat
you differently because you can't, or don't want to
spend on something that you see as frivolous.



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27 May 2007, 10:45 pm

I like what you said Calendale, about money and not wanting to spend it. I don't really have it right now to spend. All these things that people would suggest that I go out and do to "have fun" cost money that I wasn't willing to spend on such things. It wasn't "fun" for me.

And some of those things, even when others offered to pay, they would still not be "fun" for me. Getting together to socialize is really something I am not too interested in. Because it's so hard for me. Just to socialize. If there was a purpose, perhaps I would feel better about it.

Like announcing there will be a get together on the beach. At night. When it's cold. And I wouldn't be able to see anything. So that an illegal fire can built. And people can get drunk. Uh, and when does the "fun" part start?



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27 May 2007, 10:58 pm

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Uh, and when does the "fun" part start?
Once you can leave all the silly people and return home? :P



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27 May 2007, 11:22 pm

TRUE wrote:
Quatermass, what does the name mean? I want to put an "r" in there too.

And it looks like a fancy toothbrush in the avatar to me.


It's a sonic screwdriver, as I have said.

This is about the nth time I've had to explain the meaning of my avatar.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Quatermass

Basically, after I got bored of Doctor Who some years ago, I looked at Quatermass, whose exploits preceded and inspired Doctor Who....


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28 May 2007, 3:24 pm

Thanks for the link, Quatermass, I read the whole thing. Very interesting. Do you align yourself with that character, and which interpretation of that character?

I've never seen Doctor Who either. I don't watch TV.

I know what you said was in the picture, I just saw it as a fancy toothbrush and a man being VERY SERIOUS about telling someone else to brush their teeth. It was supposed to be funny.

We strive to make sense of the world around us. Even avatars need explanations sometimes when they are not clear to the viewer.

I'm sorry you have to keep explaining your picture and/or the name. We are just curious. Thank you for taking the time to do so, for the nth time. What comes after the nth time? :wink:

Shadexiii, I think the fun part comes from not going and thinking about people being cold on the beach in the night.

Or staying home and thinking of all the people that are paying to get into a club. Where they will listen to music they can listen to at home for free. While paying outrageous prices for beverages and perhaps snacks that they could buy for much less. While wearing ridiculous clothing, behaving in an uncouth manner, and making fools of themselves.

I do not pay to make a fool of myself. I can do that at home too. For free.