Coping With Prolonged & Involuntary Romantic Isolation?

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02 Oct 2017, 6:18 am

The one thing all the short men I know have in common is that they are all a)married and b)have been for quite some time. If height was such a big deal, it would not have taken years for me to find someone. If anything I found women didn't like the height discrepancy and want someone closer to their own height.



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02 Oct 2017, 6:28 am

I've got to say if we are going to acknowledge obvious things like looks and height we should acknowledge ways of standing, haircuts, body language, clothing. These could all outweigh height.

The married shorter guys are probably more normal and less annoying than short aspies.



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02 Oct 2017, 6:45 am

hurtloam wrote:
I've got to say if we are going to acknowledge obvious things like looks and height we should acknowledge ways of standing, haircuts, body language, clothing. These could all outweigh height.

The married shorter guys are probably more normal and less annoying than short aspies.



Why are short aspie men annoying? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones you know.

We're mostly mute, introvert and respect peoples boundaries of privacy and decency.

I hate these media-promulgated lies that aspie men are annoying, have no moral compass, don't know right from wrong, lack empathy, are criminally inclined etc etc etc etc etc :twisted: . Bollocks.


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02 Oct 2017, 6:51 am

Sometime World wrote:
I'm 5'9.5 (176cm) with naturally narrow shoulders (18 inches). I'm 2cm shorter than the average white Scottish male, yet my older brother is 6'2.5 (189cm) with naturally wide shoulders (21 inches). Guess who always brought home attractive women since he was 13? Guess who brought home nothing and struggles to even get a healthy weight average looking woman? Yes. Me. And no, my brother doesn't have a great personality or smooth talking skills like de Niro.
You're wrong.

I'm 6'2 and I don't bring home a lot of slim attractive girls. I've been single for most of my life. I've had three girlfriends ranging from slightly overweight to obese.

Sly is 6'3 and he doesn't have a lot of luck either. So tall guys don't always get loads of attractive girls.


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02 Oct 2017, 6:55 am

Sometime World wrote:
We're mostly mute
There's your problem.

You don't have to talk as smoothly as de Niro to get girls, but you still have to initiate some sort of conversation.


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02 Oct 2017, 7:01 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sometime World wrote:
We're mostly mute
There's your problem.

You don't have to talk as smoothly as de Niro to get girls, but you still have to initiate some sort of conversation.



I will only talk to girls if they give me positive IOI's (indicators of interest) when they catch me glimpsing at them. It comes from experience. Unfortunately, few women give me positive IOI's and look at me like I'm dirt, so If women refuse to give an inclination they want me to initiate, I save face and won't bother. I know what's coming.

Girls don't want ALL guys to approach them and talk. I made that mistake when young. If a girl gives no IOI's, but you approach anyway and talk about anything (nothing sexual though), and she doesn't like your looks, she'll sometimes humiliate you in front of an audience. Now your the creeper that crossed a social boundary even though you did nothing wrong. They're completely obsessed with social rank.


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02 Oct 2017, 7:18 am

Sometime World wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I've got to say if we are going to acknowledge obvious things like looks and height we should acknowledge ways of standing, haircuts, body language, clothing. These could all outweigh height.

The married shorter guys are probably more normal and less annoying than short aspies.


Why are short aspie men annoying? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones you know.

We're mostly mute, introvert and respect peoples boundaries of privacy and decency.

I hate these media-promulgated lies that aspie men are annoying, have no moral compass, don't know right from wrong, lack empathy, are criminally inclined etc etc etc etc etc :twisted: . Bollocks.


Oh I know I'm annoying. I'm the quiet type too, but I'm not quite right. I can see it in photographs.

I've started doing Pilates and it's correcting my posture. I'm actually amazed. I'm not so scrunched up.

I'm an aspie too so I'm not going to be referring to the media stereotypes.

Us quiet ones look like we aren't open and don't want to be approached. Now I don't know why, but i do know it is a thing. Maybe it's the anxious scrunched up body language.

Much as I appreciate a term such as "media-promulgated" if we talk like that in general conversation it accentuates our weirdness. It's unfair. We try our best to be good and polite and respectful and we enjoy using good words to convey what we mean. But most people aren't like that.

It makes us look uptight.

I was feeling down so my friend thought it would cheer me up to be told I'm perfect like Mary Poppins.

I don't want to be perfect and straight laced, but i can't seem to shake that image. I'm too precise in the way I talk.



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02 Oct 2017, 7:21 am

Sometime World wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sometime World wrote:
We're mostly mute
There's your problem.

You don't have to talk as smoothly as de Niro to get girls, but you still have to initiate some sort of conversation.



I will only talk to girls if they give me positive IOI's (indicators of interest) when they catch me glimpsing at them. It comes from experience.


This is so sensible sometime world. I don't think you are too deep a dark hole. You've got some social savvy.



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02 Oct 2017, 9:39 am

I say date an Aspie! :D

I'm more interested in Aspies or people a bit on the weird side anyways. I feel more comfortable around them and I think their more interesting than NTs. I'm okay looking I think, I've never had much problem getting girls attention. Or rather they're usually the ones giving me attention. My problem is the ones I usually get a crush on or is interested in I can't get because I get stupidly nervous and make a fool out of myself and I overthink everything. But I'm generally a positive and optimistic person to be around and I don't shy away from being social, that helps getting girls attention even though I'm an introvert. I also go to a lot of different places to meet people and that increases my chances finding interesting girls I might have something in common with. My goal is not picking up girls doing this but rather meeting interesting people of all kinds and of both genders. This is how I get friends and If I'm lucky someone who want something more.

Another tip is always try be presentable and clean when out among people. Get new outfits occasionally, watch what other people do and how they dress. Usually there's a certain fashion going on. Try emulate some of that stuff even though it might look stupid and pointless it's actually not, It's useful as a way of getting attention. You don't have to go all the way out and be super hip, that I would fail at pretty fast :lol: But a certain degree of sensing what's going on in that world is useful. At least that is what I do and what I think is important getting the attention of girls.



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02 Oct 2017, 10:43 am

What was your relationship with your mother like when you were growing up?



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02 Oct 2017, 11:20 am

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What was your relationship with your mother like when you were growing up?


Who? Op?

Also since when is 5'9" short? :roll:

I apologize i realize this post is largely pointless.

I don't like superficially biased people. Just my preference.


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02 Oct 2017, 11:27 am

that1weirdgrrrl wrote:
hobojungle wrote:
What was your relationship with your mother like when you were growing up?


Who? Op?


Yes, but others may chime in. I've been working on mother issues for years, so the subject interests me.



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02 Oct 2017, 5:34 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
You're wrong.

I'm 6'2 and I don't bring home a lot of slim attractive girls. I've been single for most of my life. I've had three girlfriends ranging from slightly overweight to obese.

Sly is 6'3 and he doesn't have a lot of luck either. So tall guys don't always get loads of attractive girls.


You got 3 girlfriends :cry: I’ve never had one in 16 years of trying
Imprefer slightly overweight women and would be fine with certain obese women.



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02 Oct 2017, 5:35 pm

Enceladus wrote:
I say date an Aspie! :D

I'm more interested in Aspies or people a bit on the weird side anyways. I feel more comfortable around them and I think their more interesting than NTs. I'm okay looking I think, I've never had much problem getting girls attention. Or rather they're usually the ones giving me attention. My problem is the ones I usually get a crush on or is interested in I can't get because I get stupidly nervous and make a fool out of myself and I overthink everything. But I'm generally a positive and optimistic person to be around and I don't shy away from being social, that helps getting girls attention even though I'm an introvert. I also go to a lot of different places to meet people and that increases my chances finding interesting girls I might have something in common with. My goal is not picking up girls doing this but rather meeting interesting people of all kinds and of both genders. This is how I get friends and If I'm lucky someone who want something more.

Another tip is always try be presentable and clean when out among people. Get new outfits occasionally, watch what other people do and how they dress. Usually there's a certain fashion going on. Try emulate some of that stuff even though it might look stupid and pointless it's actually not, It's useful as a way of getting attention. You don't have to go all the way out and be super hip, that I would fail at pretty fast :lol: But a certain degree of sensing what's going on in that world is useful. At least that is what I do and what I think is important getting the attention of girls.

Aspie women aren’t immune from society trends. Quite a lot of them want the same thing nt women want.



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02 Oct 2017, 5:47 pm

After reading the other threads about how NT women are emotionally damaged by their AS partners, I would never want an NT partner.
I couldn't deal with that amount of clinginess, and them being upset that I wasn't communicating with them constantly about every little thing, and then expecting me to read their minds about it all.
It would kill me.


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02 Oct 2017, 6:13 pm

hobojungle wrote:
What was your relationship with your mother like when you were growing up?

My relationship with my mother is pretty good.