Men Without Bachelor's Degree Not Marriage Material

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Sex will do that.

"I know loads of married blokes who don't have any sort of college or university education.

Level of education has never been a priority to me. I've never thought, he must have a degree or I won't even notice him."


I understand what you are saying, but the article is saying the opposite and backs it up with numbers.

One thing I want to say, I think women say one thing but do another. This article is proof of that. Women want to come across like they would accept a guy who was beneath them, but would the relationship truly be happy and end up in marriage?

I believe that a lot of couples end up getting pregnant (like the article states) then make the decision to get married because it is the "right" thing to do. Actually, my parents had to do that. The only difference these days is that women can be more independent and support having a baby on their own leading to more children being raised in one parent households - like the article points out.

I'm going to use myself as an example here.

As you may know, I'm back in school. My "plan" is to eventually be an NP which needs higher education. The article points out that "men" (I say men because the article refers to men) who lack higher education tend to be in jobs that don't pay as much and they also tend to abuse more alcohol and drugs. Now back to me - up until now, I have always thought of nursing as a "blue collar" job, that is the job was just for paying the bills and the rest of the time was free time to have "fun". As I have continued my "higher education", I have found that I have had to live differently and this included no alcohol like I used to drink. As I get into higher education, I am having to live and think a different way than when I was " a blue collar worker" with an Associates degree. I think of my life differently, and expect more out of myself and anyone who I would want to share my life with. With this higher education, I will also be getting paid more. With this higher education, I will have to plan my life differently and a different outcome will result.

Higher education = more money and a healthier life secondary to not drinking alcohol and partying like I used to - which the article brings out. What I'm trying to say is it is not just the making of the money. I will be thinking more professionally because of the job and the education. Most people want an equal so I'm not going to really match with a person who has a "blue collar job" anymore who comes home and pops open a beer or two or three every night to unwind and get ready for the next work day. I would match more with a person who has a degree and a challenging job OR a person who is educated (not university) and has a challenging job with a good income (entrepreneur).

Does this make sense or am I just rambling?

I tend to believe more in what people actually tell me than in the results of social-science research studies.

I find research studies create both a framework and a model which can be worked with----but they, definitely, do not often reflect the experiences of individual people.

A study might show that "woman desire education/money over anything else," and might have valid figures.

But the studies do not address individual women (of which there are many) who lie outside of that framework.

What does this mean?

You seem to associate alcoholism in men with educational level . On another post you said you didn't want blue collar men because they "come home and open a beer". Don't you think you have irrational beliefs and are stereotyping too much? What about the blue collar man that comes home and helps the kids with homework, can cook 1 from 100 nutritious meals off the the top of his head, go's to the history group on Wednesday evenings and to the sports club on a Friday evening?

Blue collar men aren't knuckle scraping, beer-bellied low I.Q idiots, you know.

Ok I see where you're coming from in terms of compatibility.

I'm living on the rungs below you and therefore not expecting as much.

I think it's rely unfair to say blue collar workers can't be healthy. Again my menial male worker friends are healthy and clean living. They just aren't interested in me.

I think I've gone a few rungs up from them in their eyes unfortunately.

I think you're mischaracterizing what's she said, nowhere in her statements did I get that she views blue collar workers as beer bellied low I.Q. idiots, in fact I got the sense she misses blue collar men. I think what's she's saying is because she has more responsibilities to handle she's no longer compatible with those types of men due to the time she needs to invest in said responsibilities, something the blue collar boys don't have to deal with. It's a socio-economic problem she's highlighting, she's not being derogatory towards them at all, just that her current lifestyle is no longer compatible.

There are plenty of highly educated people, in my experience, who are either alcoholics or drug addicts.

I don't equate alcohol/drug abuse with low educational attainment.

It's possible, though, that many educated people don't indulge in Jack Daniels too often.

Again, the article brings out about the drugs and alcohol. I can back this up with my own experience, I drank and was more "unhealthy" when I had a lower degree. Now I don't drink and am pursuing a higher degree.

Another example are my neighbors. The Biatch next door is a hairdresser (unemployed) and alcoholic. My other guy neighbor sells stuff on EBay and also is an alcoholic. My neighbor under me has a blue collar job and drinks too much. BUT, the neighbor in front of me is studying to become a doctor and is not a drinker. Then me, not a drinker anymore and in school. Which one do you think I would rather date and marry?