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06 Dec 2017, 5:52 am

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PUAs encourage men to do things like "negging", which is looking for things a woman might be insecure about and then insulting her about those things to make her feel vulnerable and worthless and more likely to be responsive to attention from men to "shore up their self-esteem", thinking this will make them more receptive to sexual advances. And for women who are used to being abused, this tactic would likely be "effective" in emotionally manipulating them because they are vulnerable to that kind of manipulation.

PUAs also advise being controlling and domineering for similar reasons, to prompt insecurity in the woman. This tactic is designed to be effective on women who already have low self-esteem. It is designed to capitalize on emotionally damaged women because they are easier to manipulate. How is this not abusive? If you promote these kinds of tactics based on emotional manipulation of the psychologically vulnerable, then you are promoting abuse.


She makes a lot of sense.


She absolutely does not.

Kara, you don't understand PUA, and you don't understand human beings either.
Why do you think 50 shades of grey was the number 1 best selling romance book by women of all time?



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06 Dec 2017, 6:02 am

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Why do you think 50 shades of grey was the number 1 best selling romance book by women of all time?



That is something I never understood, and it was a very smart counter-question from you.

Yes ladies, answer him: Why?? WHY?

Anyway, everytime I see this movie title I remember this funny video:



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06 Dec 2017, 6:05 am

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"Dom dom dom dah dah drum drum* "


* A random DJ beat


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06 Dec 2017, 6:06 am

Closet Genious wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
PUAs encourage men to do things like "negging", which is looking for things a woman might be insecure about and then insulting her about those things to make her feel vulnerable and worthless and more likely to be responsive to attention from men to "shore up their self-esteem", thinking this will make them more receptive to sexual advances. And for women who are used to being abused, this tactic would likely be "effective" in emotionally manipulating them because they are vulnerable to that kind of manipulation.

PUAs also advise being controlling and domineering for similar reasons, to prompt insecurity in the woman. This tactic is designed to be effective on women who already have low self-esteem. It is designed to capitalize on emotionally damaged women because they are easier to manipulate. How is this not abusive? If you promote these kinds of tactics based on emotional manipulation of the psychologically vulnerable, then you are promoting abuse.


She makes a lot of sense.


She absolutely does not.

Kara, you don't understand PUA, and you don't understand human beings either.
Why do you think 50 shades of grey was the number 1 best selling romance book by women of all time?


Because fantasy and reality are two very different things. Someone might fantasize about being grabbed at the bus stop, but if it actually happened I can assure you it’s probably another story. Fantasies are a lot safer, you have full discretion and full control.

If you’re implying most women like to be treated badly, I can assure you, they don’t. Some might, but they’re very much in the minority. Life is not a fantasy.

Also, I read that book and it was as boring af. I wanted my few hours back.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:13 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
PUAs encourage men to do things like "negging", which is looking for things a woman might be insecure about and then insulting her about those things to make her feel vulnerable and worthless and more likely to be responsive to attention from men to "shore up their self-esteem", thinking this will make them more receptive to sexual advances. And for women who are used to being abused, this tactic would likely be "effective" in emotionally manipulating them because they are vulnerable to that kind of manipulation.

PUAs also advise being controlling and domineering for similar reasons, to prompt insecurity in the woman. This tactic is designed to be effective on women who already have low self-esteem. It is designed to capitalize on emotionally damaged women because they are easier to manipulate. How is this not abusive? If you promote these kinds of tactics based on emotional manipulation of the psychologically vulnerable, then you are promoting abuse.


She makes a lot of sense.


She absolutely does not.

Kara, you don't understand PUA, and you don't understand human beings either.
Why do you think 50 shades of grey was the number 1 best selling romance book by women of all time?


Because fantasy and reality are two very different things. Someone might fantasize about being grabbed at the bus stop, but if it actually happened I can assure you it’s probably another story. Fantasies are a lot safer, you have full discretion and full control.


But our fantasies are as real a part of ourselves as anything else. Some people like to push the idea that fantasies are completely seperate from ourselves, but then these people do not understand human psycology at all.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:23 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
PUAs encourage men to do things like "negging", which is looking for things a woman might be insecure about and then insulting her about those things to make her feel vulnerable and worthless and more likely to be responsive to attention from men to "shore up their self-esteem", thinking this will make them more receptive to sexual advances. And for women who are used to being abused, this tactic would likely be "effective" in emotionally manipulating them because they are vulnerable to that kind of manipulation.

PUAs also advise being controlling and domineering for similar reasons, to prompt insecurity in the woman. This tactic is designed to be effective on women who already have low self-esteem. It is designed to capitalize on emotionally damaged women because they are easier to manipulate. How is this not abusive? If you promote these kinds of tactics based on emotional manipulation of the psychologically vulnerable, then you are promoting abuse.


She makes a lot of sense.


She absolutely does not.

Kara, you don't understand PUA, and you don't understand human beings either.
Why do you think 50 shades of grey was the number 1 best selling romance book by women of all time?


Because fantasy and reality are two very different things. Someone might fantasize about being grabbed at the bus stop, but if it actually happened I can assure you it’s probably another story. Fantasies are a lot safer, you have full discretion and full control.

If you’re implying most women like to be treated badly, I can assure you, they don’t. Some might, but they’re very much in the minority. Life is not a fantasy.

Also, I read that book and it was as boring af. I wanted my few hours back.


So if a troubled man who, fantasizes sexually about kids yet never acts on it, is not a pedophile? just because it's fantasy and it's supposedly to be separate from reality?

That honestly, doesn't make sense to me at all, my sexual fantasies are the same things what I would do sexually in real life (which are all legal - having consent sex with a woman).

The whole separation thing between sexual fantasy and real sexual desire, makes no sense to me.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:26 am

They’re a reality in their own sense. “Reality” is completely relative. But I think it goes deeper than women getting off at a book because they like to be treated badly. You have a point if you’re thinking that a subconscious level that they like it. I can probably write an essay containing hundreds of reasons different people would be drawn to it, but noone wants to read my walls of text.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:32 am

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They’re a reality in their own sense. “Reality” is completely relative. But I think it goes deeper than women getting off at a book because they like to be treated badly. You have a point if you’re thinking that a subconscious level that they like it. I can probably write an essay containing hundreds of reasons different people would be drawn to it, but noone wants to read my walls of text.


You could, but there's not hundred different reasons the book sold so well. There must be something specific to that book we can isolate, that made it the best selling romance book ever, otherwise any other romance book could have sold just aswell. I think it's pretty goddamn obvious, yet here we are acting as if it's a mystery...



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06 Dec 2017, 6:32 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
ZachGoodwin wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
PUAs encourage men to do things like "negging", which is looking for things a woman might be insecure about and then insulting her about those things to make her feel vulnerable and worthless and more likely to be responsive to attention from men to "shore up their self-esteem", thinking this will make them more receptive to sexual advances. And for women who are used to being abused, this tactic would likely be "effective" in emotionally manipulating them because they are vulnerable to that kind of manipulation.

PUAs also advise being controlling and domineering for similar reasons, to prompt insecurity in the woman. This tactic is designed to be effective on women who already have low self-esteem. It is designed to capitalize on emotionally damaged women because they are easier to manipulate. How is this not abusive? If you promote these kinds of tactics based on emotional manipulation of the psychologically vulnerable, then you are promoting abuse.


She makes a lot of sense.


She absolutely does not.

Kara, you don't understand PUA, and you don't understand human beings either.
Why do you think 50 shades of grey was the number 1 best selling romance book by women of all time?


Because fantasy and reality are two very different things. Someone might fantasize about being grabbed at the bus stop, but if it actually happened I can assure you it’s probably another story. Fantasies are a lot safer, you have full discretion and full control.

If you’re implying most women like to be treated badly, I can assure you, they don’t. Some might, but they’re very much in the minority. Life is not a fantasy.

Also, I read that book and it was as boring af. I wanted my few hours back.


So if a troubled man who, fantasizes sexually about kids yet never acts on it, is not a pedophile? just because it's fantasy and it's supposedly to be separate from reality?

That honestly, doesn't make sense to me at all, my sexual fantasies are the same things what I would do sexually in real life (which are all legal - having consent sex with a woman).

The whole separation thing between sexual fantasy and real sexual desire, makes no sense to me.


I didn’t say that. In that case, they’re still a pedo and it’s pretty scary.

In the sense of what you see is what you get in regards to actual sex and fantasy is not always that straightforward, especially with women. It would be nice to be that simple though.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:34 am

Closet Genious wrote:
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They’re a reality in their own sense. “Reality” is completely relative. But I think it goes deeper than women getting off at a book because they like to be treated badly. You have a point if you’re thinking that a subconscious level that they like it. I can probably write an essay containing hundreds of reasons different people would be drawn to it, but noone wants to read my walls of text.


You could, but there's not hundred different reasons the book sold so well. There must be something specific to that book we can isolate, that made it the best selling romance book ever, otherwise any other romance book could have sold just aswell. I think it's pretty goddamn obvious, yet here we are acting as if it's a mystery...


If it’s “goddamn obvious” then state the answer. f***s sake.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:37 am

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06 Dec 2017, 6:39 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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They’re a reality in their own sense. “Reality” is completely relative. But I think it goes deeper than women getting off at a book because they like to be treated badly. You have a point if you’re thinking that a subconscious level that they like it. I can probably write an essay containing hundreds of reasons different people would be drawn to it, but noone wants to read my walls of text.


You could, but there's not hundred different reasons the book sold so well. There must be something specific to that book we can isolate, that made it the best selling romance book ever, otherwise any other romance book could have sold just aswell. I think it's pretty goddamn obvious, yet here we are acting as if it's a mystery...


If it’s “goddamn obvious” then state the answer. f***s sake.


The majority of women like very dominant males.

The majority of women like men who has higher status than themselves.

It's what I've been saying this whole thread.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:43 am

Closet Genious wrote:
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They’re a reality in their own sense. “Reality” is completely relative. But I think it goes deeper than women getting off at a book because they like to be treated badly. You have a point if you’re thinking that a subconscious level that they like it. I can probably write an essay containing hundreds of reasons different people would be drawn to it, but noone wants to read my walls of text.


You could, but there's not hundred different reasons the book sold so well. There must be something specific to that book we can isolate, that made it the best selling romance book ever, otherwise any other romance book could have sold just aswell. I think it's pretty goddamn obvious, yet here we are acting as if it's a mystery...


If it’s “goddamn obvious” then state the answer. f***s sake.


The majority of women like very dominant males.

The majority of women like men who has higher status than themselves.

It's what I've been saying this whole thread.


Really. Seems more like they like the idea of them.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:45 am

Honestly, I think the "It's just fantasy" narrative is just an excuse to deny certain real sexual desires.



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06 Dec 2017, 6:55 am

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Honestly, I think the "It's just fantasy" narrative is just an excuse to deny certain real sexual desires.


Potentially. Though I don’t think most women would want a Christian Grey. Not really. What you like on paper and end up with is often very different. The idea is nice, but the reality is not always ideal.



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06 Dec 2017, 7:01 am

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Honestly, I think the "It's just fantasy" narrative is just an excuse to deny certain real sexual desires.


Potentially. Though I don’t think most women would want a Christian Grey. Not really. What you like on paper and end up with is often very different. The idea is nice, but the reality is not always ideal.


Stop denying, you really desire me as a private stripper in your room.



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