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26 Jun 2018, 8:32 pm

I don't think he's talking about women in general.

I think he's talking about women who reject people because they are "different." Socially awkward, stuff like that.



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26 Jun 2018, 8:35 pm

I don't know that there are any girls who want cocky, arrogant guys for guys to want.

Perhaps the question should be why do guys want cocky, arrogant girls?


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26 Jun 2018, 8:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't think he's talking about women in general.

I think he's talking about women who reject people because they are "different." Socially awkward, stuff like that.

I was just commenting on all the naughty words and exclamation marks :P



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26 Jun 2018, 8:37 pm

Is this the thread that is supposedly a duplicate (but isn't)? I'm confused.



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26 Jun 2018, 9:05 pm

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Is this the thread that is supposedly a duplicate (but isn't)? I'm confused.

In a way, yes. While the title is a counter-argument to the original, since both threads potentially allow both sides to argue their case, it could effectively be used for pretty much the same type of discussion as the original.


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26 Jun 2018, 9:43 pm

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Nick, don't feel sorry for them. When they b***h and whine about not finding a nice guy ask them what would they be willing to give to a nice guy? What do they have to offer besides sex? If you only want sex then you might as well go to a prostitute. Ask yourself, what value do these b*****s add to your life? Once you ask yourself that then you can say "NEXT" and move yourself on. Even if you got a chance with this sort of woman and you got to date her she's going to come with baggage. Just tell yourself "Free at Last! Free at Last! Thank God almighty I'm free at last!"

Don't try to figure these types of b*****s out. Just ditch them, move on and worry about s**t you can control. Set new goals for yourself. Maybe create a cool app. Watch a terminator flick. Learn a different language. Write a book. But, ditch the f*****g b*****s.

Fnord does give a lot of self-improvement advice. FOLLOW IT! He knows what he's talking about. But follow it to make your life more enriching not to deal with crazy b*****s which is what these b*****s who ask why can't they find a nice guy are. Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them!
I was friends with girls like that & they did have some good qualities. I really felt they deserved better.


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26 Jun 2018, 10:20 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
Is this the thread that is supposedly a duplicate (but isn't)? I'm confused.

In a way, yes. While the title is a counter-argument to the original, since both threads potentially allow both sides to argue their case, it could effectively be used for pretty much the same type of discussion as the original.


How is it a duplicate? ~A <> A.

How is anyone confused? Maybe the mod who closed the other one can explain. If one thread is about a white zebra with black stripes how in the heck is it a duplicate of a black zebra with white stripes? I mean, come on dude!



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27 Jun 2018, 1:38 am

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Nick, don't feel sorry for them. When they b***h and whine about not finding a nice guy ask them what would they be willing to give to a nice guy? What do they have to offer besides sex? If you only want sex then you might as well go to a prostitute. Ask yourself, what value do these b*****s add to your life? Once you ask yourself that then you can say "NEXT" and move yourself on. Even if you got a chance with this sort of woman and you got to date her she's going to come with baggage. Just tell yourself "Free at Last! Free at Last! Thank God almighty I'm free at last!"

Don't try to figure these types of b*****s out. Just ditch them, move on and worry about s**t you can control. Set new goals for yourself. Maybe create a cool app. Watch a terminator flick. Learn a different language. Write a book. But, ditch the f*****g b*****s.

Fnord does give a lot of self-improvement advice. FOLLOW IT! He knows what he's talking about. But follow it to make your life more enriching not to deal with crazy b*****s which is what these b*****s who ask why can't they find a nice guy are. Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them!


Wow dude! What the hell is your f*****g problem? What the hell do you expect, Virgin f*****g Mary? My beau is a cocky dick but he's the most excitement I've f*****g had. Also he helps out with our flooded hometown. Also mean people deserve love too! Sometimes we're mean because we're shunned for not being Prince Charming or Princess Sweetheart!



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27 Jun 2018, 1:55 am

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The alternative is being single


Then why not accept the alternative then. If all these c**** want arrogant guys, then what are these women really like? I don't want a b***h who says she wants a nice guy then dates as*holes. These women are going to have a butt load of problems more then likely. Why lower yourself to them? f**k it! Do you! Enjoy yourself. f**k them!

And, if one of these b*****s ask why can't I find a nice guy then ask them what do you have to offer a nice guy? If they call you a jerk or ass then kick their asses to the f*****g curb.


You’re quite respectful of women. You also seem to really respect people’s right not to date someone they aren’t interested in. You clearly have no other bad qualities apart from being nice. I seriously don’t understand why they hate you.



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27 Jun 2018, 9:07 am

Krafty, you are funny ....you ought to consider a side gig in comedy.



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27 Jun 2018, 10:20 am

MissxVenomxPoison wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Nick, don't feel sorry for them. When they b***h and whine about not finding a nice guy ask them what would they be willing to give to a nice guy? What do they have to offer besides sex? If you only want sex then you might as well go to a prostitute. Ask yourself, what value do these b*****s add to your life? Once you ask yourself that then you can say "NEXT" and move yourself on. Even if you got a chance with this sort of woman and you got to date her she's going to come with baggage. Just tell yourself "Free at Last! Free at Last! Thank God almighty I'm free at last!"

Don't try to figure these types of b*****s out. Just ditch them, move on and worry about s**t you can control. Set new goals for yourself. Maybe create a cool app. Watch a terminator flick. Learn a different language. Write a book. But, ditch the f*****g b*****s.

Fnord does give a lot of self-improvement advice. FOLLOW IT! He knows what he's talking about. But follow it to make your life more enriching not to deal with crazy b*****s which is what these b*****s who ask why can't they find a nice guy are. Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them!


Wow dude! What the hell is your f*****g problem? What the hell do you expect, Virgin f*****g Mary? My beau is a cocky dick but he's the most excitement I've f*****g had. Also he helps out with our flooded hometown. Also mean people deserve love too! Sometimes we're mean because we're shunned for not being Prince Charming or Princess Sweetheart!


What is your f*****g problem? You prize excitement. Here is my question. What happens if he no longer excites you? Can he expect loyalty from you or will you move on to some other fish when he no longer excites you. Thanks, but no thanks. I chose to be myself and single instead of being something I wasn't just to pursue someone superficial in which all of these superficial qualities fade with time. No thanks dude! And you know what paradoxically I found someone who has been with me through thick and thin. I'm not a nice guy or a cocky guy but an authentic guy who knows what he wants and you sweetheart sure as s**t ain't it.



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27 Jun 2018, 10:24 am

hale_bopp wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
The alternative is being single


Then why not accept the alternative then. If all these c**** want arrogant guys, then what are these women really like? I don't want a b***h who says she wants a nice guy then dates as*holes. These women are going to have a butt load of problems more then likely. Why lower yourself to them? f**k it! Do you! Enjoy yourself. f**k them!

And, if one of these b*****s ask why can't I find a nice guy then ask them what do you have to offer a nice guy? If they call you a jerk or ass then kick their asses to the f*****g curb.


You’re quite respectful of women. You also seem to really respect people’s right not to date someone they aren’t interested in. You clearly have no other bad qualities apart from being nice. I seriously don’t understand why they hate you.


I'm cordial with everyone but respectful of those who I feel deserve my respect. Point is we men should have our own standards and values as well. When we men start to have our own standards and values we start to have respect for ourselves which is what we need to do and when respect ourselves we may find an authentic relationship. If we don't find an authentic relationship then so what? At least one will have his dignity and respect.

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“The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king. Said Aristippus, 'If you would learn to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.'

Said [author:Diogenes|3213618, 'Learn to live on lentils and you will not have to be subservient to the king".”


In other words, if getting into a relationship requires a,b,c and d otherwise you will be single. Why not choose to be single so you don't have to do a,b,c and d if it comes down to it?



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27 Jun 2018, 10:36 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
MissxVenomxPoison wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Nick, don't feel sorry for them. When they b***h and whine about not finding a nice guy ask them what would they be willing to give to a nice guy? What do they have to offer besides sex? If you only want sex then you might as well go to a prostitute. Ask yourself, what value do these b*****s add to your life? Once you ask yourself that then you can say "NEXT" and move yourself on. Even if you got a chance with this sort of woman and you got to date her she's going to come with baggage. Just tell yourself "Free at Last! Free at Last! Thank God almighty I'm free at last!"

Don't try to figure these types of b*****s out. Just ditch them, move on and worry about s**t you can control. Set new goals for yourself. Maybe create a cool app. Watch a terminator flick. Learn a different language. Write a book. But, ditch the f*****g b*****s.

Fnord does give a lot of self-improvement advice. FOLLOW IT! He knows what he's talking about. But follow it to make your life more enriching not to deal with crazy b*****s which is what these b*****s who ask why can't they find a nice guy are. Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them!


Wow dude! What the hell is your f*****g problem? What the hell do you expect, Virgin f*****g Mary? My beau is a cocky dick but he's the most excitement I've f*****g had. Also he helps out with our flooded hometown. Also mean people deserve love too! Sometimes we're mean because we're shunned for not being Prince Charming or Princess Sweetheart!


What is your f*****g problem? You prize excitement. Here is my question. What happens if he no longer excites you? Can he expect loyalty from you or will you move on to some other fish when he no longer excites you. Thanks, but no thanks. I chose to be myself and single instead of being something I wasn't just to pursue someone superficial in which all of these superficial qualities fade with time. No thanks dude! And you know what paradoxically I found someone who has been with me through thick and thin. I'm not a nice guy or a cocky guy but an authentic guy who knows what he wants and you sweetheart sure as s**t ain't it.


Actually I am loyal despite being "superficial" and dude, I'm all for a guy being himself and vice versa. My man is also just as nice as he is cocky, he's someone who sure as f**k can handle me at my worst. If you can't handle me at my worst then you certainly don't deserve me at my best. I'm an aggressive girl who wants an aggressive guy.



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27 Jun 2018, 10:37 am

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Well, that escalated quickly.


In a time of universal deceit telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. Orwell. Orwell pursued what he loved to do which was to write and write he did. He got into two relationships along the way.



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27 Jun 2018, 11:28 am

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Actually I am loyal despite being "superficial" and dude, I'm all for a guy being himself and vice versa. My man is also just as nice as he is cocky, he's someone who sure as f**k can handle me at my worst. If you can't handle me at my worst then you certainly don't deserve me at my best. I'm an aggressive girl who wants an aggressive guy.


I don't like aggression or drama, so I see this as a huge red flag. If he can handle it, and you two can keep it "sane", then fine, but I would withdraw from such an arrangement. I'd become reserved to protect myself, something that would hurt the relationship in the long run.

I think you two should direct your aggression to the causes, and not towards each other. Provided the causes are external, of course.



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27 Jun 2018, 11:34 am

MissxVenomxPoison wrote:
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Nick, don't feel sorry for them. When they b***h and whine about not finding a nice guy ask them what would they be willing to give to a nice guy? What do they have to offer besides sex? If you only want sex then you might as well go to a prostitute. Ask yourself, what value do these b*****s add to your life? Once you ask yourself that then you can say "NEXT" and move yourself on. Even if you got a chance with this sort of woman and you got to date her she's going to come with baggage. Just tell yourself "Free at Last! Free at Last! Thank God almighty I'm free at last!"

Don't try to figure these types of b*****s out. Just ditch them, move on and worry about s**t you can control. Set new goals for yourself. Maybe create a cool app. Watch a terminator flick. Learn a different language. Write a book. But, ditch the f*****g b*****s.

Fnord does give a lot of self-improvement advice. FOLLOW IT! He knows what he's talking about. But follow it to make your life more enriching not to deal with crazy b*****s which is what these b*****s who ask why can't they find a nice guy are. Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them! Ditch them!


Wow dude! What the hell is your f*****g problem? What the hell do you expect, Virgin f*****g Mary? My beau is a cocky dick but he's the most excitement I've f*****g had. Also he helps out with our flooded hometown. Also mean people deserve love too! Sometimes we're mean because we're shunned for not being Prince Charming or Princess Sweetheart!


What is your f*****g problem? You prize excitement. Here is my question. What happens if he no longer excites you? Can he expect loyalty from you or will you move on to some other fish when he no longer excites you. Thanks, but no thanks. I chose to be myself and single instead of being something I wasn't just to pursue someone superficial in which all of these superficial qualities fade with time. No thanks dude! And you know what paradoxically I found someone who has been with me through thick and thin. I'm not a nice guy or a cocky guy but an authentic guy who knows what he wants and you sweetheart sure as s**t ain't it.


Actually I am loyal despite being "superficial" and dude, I'm all for a guy being himself and vice versa. My man is also just as nice as he is cocky, he's someone who sure as f**k can handle me at my worst. If you can't handle me at my worst then you certainly don't deserve me at my best. I'm an aggressive girl who wants an aggressive guy.


Well sweetheart, I personally wouldn't want to handle you at your worst or best. You two can have each other. Think about it. What happens if he no longer meets your superficial standards or he is no longer exciting to you? What then? And, what happens if you no longer meet his and then he dumps your ass? Are you then going to whine and cry about why you can't find a nice guy? Besides having a nice body and being arm candy what value do you contribute to him?

Rdos is right, it definitely is 1000% a red flag.