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30 Sep 2018, 10:32 pm

Have long hair or at least look like he belongs in some sort of metal band. (Use Peter Steele and Andi Deris as references)


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01 Oct 2018, 12:21 am

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Not at all. Taking the bus means you're not dependent on having to walk everywhere. That's a good thing :) .

Once I was dependent on others so much that I only went on bus's with my mother, now I'm independent enough that I can travel by bus alone when I need to :) .


I use to drive but I can’t sfford a car on disability and part time min wage


I struggle to run my car as well. When I'm working it should make running my Volvo a lot easier. Its fuel consumption is pretty bad, it does about 37 to the gallon. My father's Vauxhall Senator is a car I couldn't run ever its fuel consumption was only 21 to the gallon, not cheap to run at all. If I can't get a job I'll have to give up driving as well.


See after bills I have about 180-200 for food and other stuff, including soap, shampoo, toothpaste etc, for a month, most people spend $200 on food a week. So if I owned a car that’s $50 insurance a month, $50-100 for gas , and I need to save money for it’s inavo repairs(breaks run 200-400, tires350-400, oil change 20, transmission service 200, god forbid steering and struts need replaced$200-600, if engine or transmission needs work or replaced $500-2000, all this of course on top of the cars price of 1500-2,000. I’ve owned multiple cars and my family has too. My sister was able to afford a new car so she has years and years before any costly repairs. So people judge me and are like why’d you buy that you should bought a car, well the thing u bought doesn’t cost me anything after buying it. I can’t afford the upkeep for a car. Bus cost me $25 a month. So saves me $175 or so a month va car in just gas/ insurance alone. So I could buy a car and starve and sinks my life’s savings into it, last car I had I used all my savings keeping it going and it still died and got sold for $150.

On plus side I don’t have to deal with the anxiety of driving nor the road rage of other drivers anymore. Yeah it’s be nice to drive to work but it’s be nicer if I lived near work and could walk, it’s sad not owning a car means I’ll never have a relationship and be loved though.


I can understand that. Cars aren't cheap to run and when they go wrong they can be expensive. It's not so bad for me because I buy the parts to service and work on my own car but of course not everybody knows how to service a car and changes the plugs, etc. My 850 was a gift from my father, so I would never sell it. It's a Volvo so that equals reliability (last weeks not starting was me flooding the engine :roll: ) and for a 2.5 litre its quite cheap to run as well. But until I get a full time job it's going to be really hard running my car because I can't afford it.

Other drivers are a real pain. Where I live half of them don't understand roundabouts and keep switching lanes for different exits cutting you up. You have to have eyes in the back of your head :D .

Date Update.
My date last night went relly well! Natalie and I ate out and everything was perfect, we spoke, had a few laughs and held hands across the table. When we were done she offered to pay for the meal. I thanked her but said I would pay for it, I'm nearly broke now but she's definitely worth it. Then we went back to her place and had a cuddle :) .
And best part is she said she would love to see me again, tonight! Not for a date just so we can hang out and chat. I'm really pleased :) . We're very similar and I know that she's the one for me.



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01 Oct 2018, 12:51 am

My car had a electrical issue which was beyond my ability to replace parts. A lot of mechanics won’t deal with electrical stuff unless they get paid a lot. It’s a real hassle to diagnose a electrical issue non less one that happens intermittently.
I can’t diagnose well at all.
It’s very unlikely I’ll ever be able to work a job that can afford a car.

Congratulations on the date



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01 Oct 2018, 3:04 am

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Oh well I meant independence as in being single haha. That’s what I thought the poster above me meant. I think that’s what she means. Being in a relationship wears me out but that’s not the point of the thread anyway.

How can you be in a relationship while being single?

See that’s the thing I’ve mostly seen independent described as having your life together ie good job, car and own place, things a lot of aspire males struggle with. That or meaning being distant emotionally from your partner. So that’s why I asked


The irony here is almost everybody I know my age does not own their own house or have a great job, yet virtually none of them struggle with dating. Most of them have pretty modest cars, and even then they tend to resort to credit to buy them. Meanwhile, the engineer I know, who's one of the nicest people I've ever known, has always been single.

The good job, good car, own house thing must just be a 30+ gimmick.



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01 Oct 2018, 3:34 am

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Oh well I meant independence as in being single haha. That’s what I thought the poster above me meant. I think that’s what she means. Being in a relationship wears me out but that’s not the point of the thread anyway.

How can you be in a relationship while being single?

See that’s the thing I’ve mostly seen independent described as having your life together ie good job, car and own place, things a lot of aspire males struggle with. That or meaning being distant emotionally from your partner. So that’s why I asked


The irony here is almost everybody I know my age does not own their own house or have a great job, yet virtually none of them struggle with dating. Most of them have pretty modest cars, and even then they tend to resort to credit to buy them. Meanwhile, the engineer I know, who's one of the nicest people I've ever known, has always been single.

The good job, good car, own house thing must just be a 30+ gimmick.


Yes, it affects your 'marriageability' or 'LTability'.

But most people start dating when they're still teens, before having a car, job and house.


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Meanwhile, the engineer I know, who's one of the nicest people I've ever known, has always been single.


Some may assume he's an Incel.



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01 Oct 2018, 4:48 am

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My car had a electrical issue which was beyond my ability to replace parts. A lot of mechanics won’t deal with electrical stuff unless they get paid a lot. It’s a real hassle to diagnose a electrical issue non less one that happens intermittently.
I can’t diagnose well at all.
It’s very unlikely I’ll ever be able to work a job that can afford a car.

Congratulations on the date


Thanks buddy :D . I'm well pleased.

Yeah when they go faulty it's a nightmare. My father doesn't trust others to work on his car so he services them himself and repairs them himself. It's cheaper than going to a garage but not everybody has the know how or the space to work on their cars, or the time come to that.

He's taught me a lot and I now know how to service a car, wire up stereos, etc. I can also restore them to a good state also which is good :) :D .

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Yeah buddy a house and a decent wage are a long, long way off for me and my girlfriend. I have a car, she doesn't. She does have a job though, she works at a playschool. It took a long time before my parents were earning decent money, though as my father grew up in the 1980s he got to drive a few awesome cars :D .

Right now if things work out with Natalie our own home is a very long way away. But it's worth working towards :mrgreen:



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01 Oct 2018, 4:55 am

I'd say that often a car is not the best way to go from point A to point B. In many cases, a bike is much faster (and of course, less expensive). If you have something similar to a bike that can be brought on trains & buses, then it becomes even more efficient.



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01 Oct 2018, 6:00 am

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Oh well I meant independence as in being single haha. That’s what I thought the poster above me meant. I think that’s what she means. Being in a relationship wears me out but that’s not the point of the thread anyway.

How can you be in a relationship while being single?


You can’t. It’s just humor.


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01 Oct 2018, 7:18 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
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Oh well I meant independence as in being single haha. That’s what I thought the poster above me meant. I think that’s what she means. Being in a relationship wears me out but that’s not the point of the thread anyway.

How can you be in a relationship while being single?

See that’s the thing I’ve mostly seen independent described as having your life together ie good job, car and own place, things a lot of aspire males struggle with. That or meaning being distant emotionally from your partner. So that’s why I asked


The irony here is almost everybody I know my age does not own their own house or have a great job, yet virtually none of them struggle with dating. Most of them have pretty modest cars, and even then they tend to resort to credit to buy them. Meanwhile, the engineer I know, who's one of the nicest people I've ever known, has always been single.

The good job, good car, own house thing must just be a 30+ gimmick.

This is a very US specific thing.

In my area, a good job wouldn't be enough, you would need a really exceptional job to pay off mortgage before 30. I work with engineers and nobody under 30 owns a home yet.



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01 Oct 2018, 3:35 pm

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I'd say that often a car is not the best way to go from point A to point B. In many cases, a bike is much faster (and of course, less expensive). If you have something similar to a bike that can be brought on trains & buses, then it becomes even more efficient.

Our buses have 3 spots for bike if they’re full your going be late as you’ll have to catch the next bus or next one after it if it’s also full. I’ve seen lots of angry bike people get turned away.



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01 Oct 2018, 3:39 pm

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My car had a electrical issue which was beyond my ability to replace parts. A lot of mechanics won’t deal with electrical stuff unless they get paid a lot. It’s a real hassle to diagnose a electrical issue non less one that happens intermittently.
I can’t diagnose well at all.
It’s very unlikely I’ll ever be able to work a job that can afford a car.

Congratulations on the date


Thanks buddy :D . I'm well pleased.

Yeah when they go faulty it's a nightmare. My father doesn't trust others to work on his car so he services them himself and repairs them himself. It's cheaper than going to a garage but not everybody has the know how or the space to work on their cars, or the time come to that.

He's taught me a lot and I now know how to service a car, wire up stereos, etc. I can also restore them to a good state also which is good :) :D .

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Yeah buddy a house and a decent wage are a long, long way off for me and my girlfriend. I have a car, she doesn't. She does have a job though, she works at a playschool. It took a long time before my parents were earning decent money, though as my father grew up in the 1980s he got to drive a few awesome cars :D .

Right now if things work out with Natalie our own home is a very long way away. But it's worth working towards :mrgreen:


You wouldn’t be able to work on 2018 car in your garage, you need expensive mashines to test and fix the highly advanced computer system, new cars are just computers now really. And hibrids need expensive electrical stuff to work in theirnhigh voltage systems.
But yes I lack the space and tools to even work on a pre 2000 car. I suspect your father might find himself confused with a 2018 bmw etc. even mechanics have to go to schools to keep up. Which I suspect will eventually lead to automatation in the mechanic field.



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01 Oct 2018, 3:42 pm

Boo what’s LTability?



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02 Oct 2018, 7:56 am

sly279 wrote:
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sly279 wrote:
My car had a electrical issue which was beyond my ability to replace parts. A lot of mechanics won’t deal with electrical stuff unless they get paid a lot. It’s a real hassle to diagnose a electrical issue non less one that happens intermittently.
I can’t diagnose well at all.
It’s very unlikely I’ll ever be able to work a job that can afford a car.

Congratulations on the date


Thanks buddy :D . I'm well pleased.

Yeah when they go faulty it's a nightmare. My father doesn't trust others to work on his car so he services them himself and repairs them himself. It's cheaper than going to a garage but not everybody has the know how or the space to work on their cars, or the time come to that.

He's taught me a lot and I now know how to service a car, wire up stereos, etc. I can also restore them to a good state also which is good :) :D .

Sabreclaw
Yeah buddy a house and a decent wage are a long, long way off for me and my girlfriend. I have a car, she doesn't. She does have a job though, she works at a playschool. It took a long time before my parents were earning decent money, though as my father grew up in the 1980s he got to drive a few awesome cars :D .

Right now if things work out with Natalie our own home is a very long way away. But it's worth working towards :mrgreen:


You wouldn’t be able to work on 2018 car in your garage, you need expensive mashines to test and fix the highly advanced computer system, new cars are just computers now really. And hibrids need expensive electrical stuff to work in theirnhigh voltage systems.
But yes I lack the space and tools to even work on a pre 2000 car. I suspect your father might find himself confused with a 2018 bmw etc. even mechanics have to go to schools to keep up. Which I suspect will eventually lead to automatation in the mechanic field.


Agreed, modern cars are much more advanced and would require a lot of learning and understanding. I expect some of them are very nice but I do prefer the look and style of "older" cars, I think todays cars look very samey. Haha yeah I expect he'd be lost with a modern BMW... I don't see him ever upgrading to be honest, but who knows...

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So Natalie got in touch yesterday morning and thinks we should just remain friends :cry: I don't get it, I really don't... I listened to everything she said, I didn't drone on about cars. I was a gentleman and actually thought I'd done really well. I couldn't have done it any better than that.

Where did I go wrong? I'm gutted I thought we were going to last.



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02 Oct 2018, 8:34 am

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So Natalie got in touch yesterday morning and thinks we should just remain friends :cry: I don't get it, I really don't... I listened to everything she said, I didn't drone on about cars. I was a gentleman and actually thought I'd done really well. I couldn't have done it any better than that.

Where did I go wrong? I'm gutted I thought we were going to last.

It is likely that you did nothing wrong and she just wasn't very attracted to you. We often misjudge our attraction because oxytocin clouds rational thinking.



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02 Oct 2018, 8:44 am

I guess it must be something like that.



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02 Oct 2018, 10:00 am

To summarize what the women have said that they find attractive in men:

Appearance:
o Decent Clothing / Well-Dressed
o Good Grooming
o Good Hygiene
o Good Looks (This definition varies)

Physical:
o Fit & Trim (Not too skinny)
o Healthy (Neither a smoker nor obese)
o Hair (Not bald; no beard or mustache)
o Taller then she

Mental:
o College Education
o Common Interests
o Intellectual / Intelligent
o Knowledgeable
o Logical

Emotional:
o Caring / Compassionate
o Cheerful (Not a whiner or complainer)
o Funny / Good sense of humor
o Level-headed / Rational
o Passionate about something (i.e., cause, hobby, et cetera)
o Sentimental / Sweet
o Warm / Empathetic

Behavioral:
o Accountable / Responsible
o Civil / Well-mannered
o Employed (gainfully)
o Honest
o Interested (In her as a person)
o Independent lifestyle (Owns a home, car, et cetera)
o Kindness / Mercy
o Respectful / Tolerant
o Understanding
o Unique (Not ordinary)