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21 Mar 2019, 9:53 am

In 1961, the year of my birth, about 90% of boys were circumcised as neonates in a hospital setting.

In my case, I don't believe the fact that I am circumcised decreased my sexual pleasure in the least.

I can understand folks who believe it's a form of "genital mutilation." I'm not an advocate for circumcision nowadays.

In the 1960s, it was thought that circumcision lessened the chance of infection around the genital area, as well as prevented penile cancer. It was thought of as a "prophylactic" measure.



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21 Mar 2019, 9:56 am

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In my case, I don't believe the fact that I am circumcised decreased my sexual pleasure in the least.



But you can never be sure of that if you never been uncircumcised.



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21 Mar 2019, 9:59 am

I feel pretty intense when I have an orgasm. It's enough for me.



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21 Mar 2019, 7:42 pm

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Why in the US do it? Well....maybe because it's a largely devout Protestant culture and Protestants are the most Jews-like among Christians (Compared to Catholics and Orthodoxes) and value Old Testament more than Catholics. Islam overall is so Judaism-like as well.

So the Protestants practice circumcision because the Bible says the Jews must do it, yet the protestants stilleat pork and shellfish. Very selective, these protestants.


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21 Mar 2019, 7:54 pm

It has nothing to do with the Bible. Anglophone Protestants started practising circumsision because of certain pseudoscientific theories about its health benefits which gained popularity in the US and UK in the nineteenth century but never took off elsewhere. It's a historical accident that American Protestants still practice circumsision, while in Britain we abandoned the practice in the 1940s or so.



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21 Mar 2019, 11:44 pm

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Also in my opinion, all pro-circumcision are backwards, and I am just being very polite for picking the word 'backwards'.

Off-topic, but I absolutely agree, unless the male in question chooses to have a circumcision after reaching adulthood, or unless it's medically necessary, the "my body, my choice" argument touted by pro-choice women should apply to male infants too. In fact in most cases it is even more applicable, since at least women generally have some ownership in a situation where they become pregnant, where male infants have literally no say if the parents opt to get a third of their foreskin removed.

Why are men in the US circumcised?
I get religious Jews do it for religious reasons but some quickly googled statistics show there are about 2% of people declaring Judaism as their religion against over half of the men circumcised 8O
I don't get it.


It was the norm until insurance refused to pay for it. My brother got it I didn’t cause insurance wouldn’t pay for it anymore.
I don’t think it should been done but is just a case of that’s how it’s always been so why change mindset


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21 Mar 2019, 11:46 pm

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Also in my opinion, all pro-circumcision are backwards, and I am just being very polite for picking the word 'backwards'.

Off-topic, but I absolutely agree, unless the male in question chooses to have a circumcision after reaching adulthood, or unless it's medically necessary, the "my body, my choice" argument touted by pro-choice women should apply to male infants too. In fact in most cases it is even more applicable, since at least women generally have some ownership in a situation where they become pregnant, where male infants have literally no say if the parents opt to get a third of their foreskin removed.

Why are men in the US circumcised?
I get religious Jews do it for religious reasons but some quickly googled statistics show there are about 2% of people declaring Judaism as their religion against over half of the men circumcised 8O
I don't get it.

Well I'm not from the US, but I'd imagine that the statistics would be pretty similar here in Australia. I've heard a fear of the foreskin getting infected be sighted as a reason (though I've never heard of that happening), and the other main reason I've heard is that when the father is circumcised, he wants his sons to be like him. My dad is circumcised, and he wanted me to get circumcised when I was an infant to be the same as him, but my mum didn't allow it, and I'm glad she didn't, because as an adult I don't think it's morally right to remove any part of a baby boy's body, particularly in such a sensitive area, unless it is medically necessary. I watched an interview in which a guy had had a botched circumcision where the doctor took too much off, and this guy couldn't experience sexual pleasure and was permanently sexually dysfunctional as a result.


Or the cases where they remove too much and so just take it a Nd “make the boy a girl”


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21 Mar 2019, 11:49 pm

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In 1961, the year of my birth, about 90% of boys were circumcised as neonates in a hospital setting.

In my case, I don't believe the fact that I am circumcised decreased my sexual pleasure in the least.

I can understand folks who believe it's a form of "genital mutilation." I'm not an advocate for circumcision nowadays.

In the 1960s, it was thought that circumcision lessened the chance of infection around the genital area, as well as prevented penile cancer. It was thought of as a "prophylactic" measure.

It did but you’ll never know since they can’t reattach 90,000+ nerv endings.
Each of this endings would have given you pleasure so to say removing them didn’t decrease it is crazy.


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21 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
In my case, I don't believe the fact that I am circumcised decreased my sexual pleasure in the least.



But you can never be sure of that if you never been uncircumcised.

True the forskin has more nerve endings then female clit.


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I don't know anything of this 'stigma' against dating an Autistic a lot of you talk about.

Interesting point. I've never heard anything say "Don't that so-and-so, they have autism." Is that a thing?


A few people on here seem to think so. I've not heard anything about it, until I came here. I've heard it about other conditions and disabilities (and there is truth in them that some people just don't want to have to deal with those things in a potential partner) but never for Autism.

On the circumcision issue. Besides religious reasons, there are quite a few people out there that believe it's 'cleaner'. Or rather it's just easier to keep clean. I've also heard some comments that have circulated that are some view the foreskin is less attractive. I suspect it's the same sort of ideas that bring about labiaplasty for women (which has been rising).

A more personal case, my cousin received one a bit later on. The foreskin had formed in such a way that it made it very hard to clean and thus he kept getting infections. The best course of action for him at the time was to be circumcised.


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22 Mar 2019, 2:20 am

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I had no idea who she was but it looks like her "average girl" look is very intentional and part of her artistic persona.

It makes me wonder... if you intentionally embrace average girl look, does it automatically make you a feminist?



This was disturbing to watch on many levels.



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22 Mar 2019, 2:33 am

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Does anyone else here think that Amy Schumer's announcement during her newest standup special on Netflix that her husband has Asperger syndrome will help reduce the stigma of being in a relationship with an Aspie?

No, not really. If an Amy Schumer type is the best we can do, that's not very reassuring.


I am not much familiar much with this celeb, what's so bad about her?


She's pretty obnoxious in general, but she also has a bit where she discribes herself (stone sober) having sex with an in-and-out-of-consciousness drunk guy, and makes fun of his performance (imagine a genderflipped version of that). And another where she makes fun of unmutilated penises.



She said once:

“I’m 160lbs and can catch a dick whenever I want.”

Well, isn’t she too honest?



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22 Mar 2019, 3:38 am

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I agree with your mother.
I don't see any fundamental difference between infant circumcision for no reason and the so much deplored female genital mutilation. To me, both are equally barbaric - maybe because both are virtually absent in my culture.


The occurence of FGM is waaaaay less common than male circumcision, the former only happens in the most backward regions of the world, and still there’s much more uproar in media about it than the male circumcision that was happening to 90% of American newborn boys and still is still happening to virtually all newborn boys in the Muslim/Jewish world. :roll:

I recall there were even women here on WP, often Americans, who would justify male circumcision because “it is not as bad as FGM, it is just a piece of skin” or something like that. Pure backwardness, I have no respect for such “opinions”.

This is another example how far the media doesn’t care about boys/males, the world doesn’t care about males’ sufferings in general, some hundreds baby girls get FMG and the whole world uproars and gets crazy, we have seen countless of news segments, UN reports and even documentary films on the FGM subject,
but millions, probably reached bilions of baby boys get mutilited officially in hospitals for centuries? No one bats an eye.

And now I expect some member to tell me to stop “whining” about this, no I will not, and if he/she sees this is a non-issue then he/she is an another ret*d backward in my book. This topic is just like Rape, it can’t have a “gray” opinion.



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22 Mar 2019, 4:47 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The occurence of FGM is waaaaay less rare than male circumcision

You mean less common / more rare, I suppose :)
Do you have double negation in your native language? I have.

Personally, I don't think you are whining, I agree that some issues that are rightfully adressed in women should be as rightfully adressed in men and it's injustice that they aren't.


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22 Mar 2019, 4:53 am

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I had no idea who she was but it looks like her "average girl" look is very intentional and part of her artistic persona.
(Amy Schumer video)
It makes me wonder... if you intentionally embrace average girl look, does it automatically make you a feminist?
I happen to think she looks adorable in this video.


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22 Mar 2019, 4:59 am

magz wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The occurence of FGM is waaaaay less rare than male circumcision

You mean less common / more rare, I suppose :)
Do you have double negation in your native language? I have.

Personally, I don't think you are whining, I agree that some issues that are rightfully adressed in women should be as rightfully adressed in men and it's injustice that they aren't.


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