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I haven't mentioned all medications I use. The remeron isn't my main antidepressant as it's mostly good for sleep at night and relaxing me late evenings. I use suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone) as main antidepressant. None of the antidepressants I've taken in past can compete with the relief I get from suboxone. I don't need new medications as I have the best there is to offer.



I doubt any one is better than the other. Their all relatively the same in terms of how helpful they've been. I don't need advice on therapy. Medications help somewhat and therapy (cbt, talk, etc.) all do nothing or almost nothing.



I am moving out of NY in 7 months. I won't stay long enough to potentially develop any longterm friendships and I generally can't make real friends; just acquaintances. However, I will check out the Aspies for Social Success as it was recommended by another acquaintance who I think is wise. I'm just going for sake of helping with isolation not for friends. I'm not really interested in "social causes" like charities or marches. I don't have the group mentality "we're all in this together!"

It's possible to go from friends to dates, but can't make friends. Women it's very difficult to even build any rapport with. Women and I seem to have no common ground. Most likely it's biology/genetics; I'm not sexually and socially fit to be with any women either as a friend or date. Darwinism's theory of the weak who will perish when it comes to mating. It's mostly how I look and my natural personality which none seem to accept.

Rhoades I disagree! You have the right to feel unhappy and hopeless, I cannot argue with that.
The law of nature puts birds in flocks, animals in herds and people in communities. We need other people to survive and thrive. I still maintain that we need to be loved and appreciated. Even my dog got depressed if I didn't give her affection and appreciation.

I have been depressed many times in my life and have even been near to doing something drastic. Life can improve. I am not sitting in a sticky sweet pot of honey, my life has been a nightmare, but I always believed that everyone, even myself who I despised at times, deserves to be happy, and I refused to let the bad guys win. It wasn't even hope Rhoades it was my stubborn refusal to let the world s..t on me and I kept fighting back. Survival mode?

Failure makes us withdraw from life and for me it has been absolutely essential to step out of life into my own safe solitude, sometimes for years on end. We can reorganise and try again and often fail again. Sometimes we succeed.

I have been abused so much in my life that I don't recognise love when I see it . This is CPTSD from a seriously abusive childhood. I am having therapy now to teach me how to live because I myself am pushing people away because I don't believe they are authentic, I can't trust them.

I feel lonely- people show me love- I don't identify it/interpret it correctly / trust them - I push them away. F...ked system right? Viscious cycle of pathology.





We all need love, and if it is absent we suffer.

f**k your sentimental optimism. I consider most other people enemies to be defeated by any means necessary. I am not really into looking for friends. My post was asking how to decrease the desire for such things like friends and romance. I feel better if I'm winning and others are losing in a way that makes them feel extreme pain and frustration. No true friends seem to exist for me.

Good for you gal for finding love even though you didn't see it at first. You are a female so love will come to you far easier because other men with sympathize with you as a female and need to protect or pamper you. You poor thing!

Thanks for the answer I wasn't looking for.

Actually I am not being pampered by anyone and am fiercely independent. You have misinterpreted what I said. I am not in a conventional committed relationship but I have very good friends. You have to like people for them to like you.You seem to have a poor opinion of women. Cheers.

Well, you did say you wanted to lower your sex drive, preferably without also causing ED. Have you discussed that issue, in particular, with your psychiatrist?


Where will you be moving to?


Well, hopefully attending AFSS will help you feel a bit less lonely, then, at least for now.


Fine, don't go to such things if they don't interest you. However, please note that the existence of people who are into "social causes" is a counterexample to something you wrote earlier, below:


Is there another country you think you would like better? If so, which one, and what would you like about that country? More generally, apart from any real other countries that may or may not exist, what do you feel that a society would need in order to not be "empty," in your view?

Usually, when people complain about U.S. society being "empty," they are complaining about (a) the prevalent selfishness/narcissism and (b) lack of a sense of common purpose. Both of these concerns can be addressed, at least to some extent, in groups devoted to "social causes." But you reject the latter. So, when you speak of U.S. society as being "empty," what, specifically, do you see it as lacking? Apparently, something else?

Anyhow, back to your more recent post:


I doubt that you've identified the main real reasons. I would suspect that the main real reason can be found in your latest post, which I saw just now:


and:


Yikes! So you don't believe in the possibility of win-win solutions? Or do you not desire win-win solutions even if you believe them to be possible?

I would guess that you are caught in a vicious circle of resentment and hatred of others, which others pick up on and hence react to you in ways that give you even more reason to resent and hate them.

Well based on your rude and mean responses to people trying to encourage you...perhaps you don't have any friends or a girlfriend because you're mean to people and they don't enjoy it.

Maybe learning to be less toxic would be beneficial to your life.

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