Men should get engagement rings if they like

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The_Face_of_Boo
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17 Aug 2020, 2:20 pm

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OP, try to convince first the society in general and a lot of the women in particular (the majority of them at least), that it's ok for women to ask out men and pay for dinners, before convincing them to propose and buy rings.  There's still way to go before that.
^This, QFT.

I could go into a long rant about the real differences in courtship behaviors between men and women, but anything else I could add would either be obvious to anyone who has ever dated, or it would be misconstrued as sexist stereotyping.


- And that's ok if the woman drives half of the times while she's with her man, not 8 out of 10 as man driving as we see it in our daily life.
- And that's ok if the woman goes and pick up the guy for date sometimes.
- And that's ok for women to couple with shorter guys.
- And that's ok for women to marry stay at home daddies.

Really, the ring is the least priority for change :lol:.



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17 Aug 2020, 2:21 pm

Custom made rings are a thing? Prefab rings are mostly boring. My wedding ring is custom.



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17 Aug 2020, 2:25 pm

We don't have that here - some people get matching wedding bands, some don't.

Back in the day, at least in Europe, they were supposed to be significant, not flashy and ridiculously expensive.

This is Queen Victoria's wedding ring - the serpent was a symbol of wisdom and commitment at the time.

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17 Aug 2020, 2:26 pm

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We don't have that here - some people get matching wedding bands, some don't.

Back in the day, at least in Europe, they were supposed to be significant, not flashy and ridiculously expensive.

This is Queen Victoria's wedding ring - the serpent was a symbol of wisdom and commitment at the time.

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I think we all know the history of DeBeers and diamonds.



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17 Aug 2020, 2:42 pm

^
Yeah, that crap completely ruined the gesture. I also don't know anybody here making a huge fuss about ridiculously lavish weddings, most people would think it's insane to spend that kind of money in one day instead of making a down payment for a house 8O

Off-topic, my wife repairs and restores antique jewellery as a hobby related to her profession, and hates those huge, tacky diamonds, she tells me diamonds were traditionally used to enhance the beauty of other stones. But I don't think she'd buy any mass-produced jewellery anyway.

I think it's up to young people these days to put a stop to this nonsense themselves, both genders.


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17 Aug 2020, 2:55 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
This is Queen Victoria's wedding ring - the serpent was a symbol of wisdom and commitment at the time.

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That's really cool!


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17 Aug 2020, 6:13 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
^

Off-topic, my wife repairs and restores antique jewellery as a hobby related to her profession, and hates those huge, tacky diamonds, she tells me diamonds were traditionally used to enhance the beauty of other stones. But I don't think she'd buy any mass-produced jewellery anyway.

I think it's up to young people these days to put a stop to this nonsense themselves, both genders.


Yeah I'm not a fan of how gaudy rings have become in the US. I like small understated pieces that are more like pieces of art. To a geologist diamonds are highly overrated. We designed our own rings for that reason :mrgreen: .



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17 Aug 2020, 6:36 pm

Perhaps instead of rings we should get engagement swords :viking:

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Such a silly way to deface a sword :lol:



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17 Aug 2020, 6:59 pm

AuroraBorealisGazer wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
^

Off-topic, my wife repairs and restores antique jewellery as a hobby related to her profession, and hates those huge, tacky diamonds, she tells me diamonds were traditionally used to enhance the beauty of other stones. But I don't think she'd buy any mass-produced jewellery anyway.

I think it's up to young people these days to put a stop to this nonsense themselves, both genders.


Yeah I'm not a fan of how gaudy rings have become in the US. I like small understated pieces that are more like pieces of art. To a geologist diamonds are highly overrated. We designed our own rings for that reason :mrgreen: .


Who made them for you?


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17 Aug 2020, 7:11 pm

^ we were lucky to find an old school jeweller in our town that makes custom pieces but hand. Apparently most places contract it out and/or don't carve the jewellery by hand. It was quite the process.



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17 Aug 2020, 7:52 pm

I've always bought antique rings for my GF


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18 Aug 2020, 12:40 am

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Perhaps instead of rings we should get engagement swords :viking:

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Such a silly way to deface a sword :lol:


Then whoever wins the duel should get the advantage in prenup.



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18 Aug 2020, 6:20 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
OP, try to convince first the society that it's ok for women to ask out men and pay for dinners, before convincing them to propose and buy rings.

There's still way to go before that.


Reason I said it is general society of people I know know that. Including my mother's generation who are in their 50s. My mum proposed to my dad in the 80s when it was rarer than today.

That's why it becomes a bit cheeky when women propose to men but then expect men to spend 3 months wages on a ring for them. The exact same guy who they proposed to...

Guy proposal: Down on one knee with box in his hand with ring in it
Girl proposal: Down on one knee maybe/other romantic gesture otherwise then 'ok, now we've got to go buy me a ring'

This is probably different in different cultures, including US/UK split and different parts of the UK/US.

People I know, it's my grandparents' generation who didn't have girls asking boys out. My parents' generation where women didn't propose to men very often. Even my parents' generation (divorcees amongst them) grew out of it by their second weddings.

Eg my cousin proposed to her fiance then expected him to get her a ring. And I'm the only one who thinks it's a bit cheeky. He went and got her one. They're in their late 20s.


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18 Aug 2020, 6:30 am

Feyokien wrote:
Perhaps instead of rings we should get engagement swords :viking:

Now here's someone who's got the right idea. 8)


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18 Aug 2020, 8:32 pm

Some couples give each other promise rings. Me & my girlfriend sorta did that. They were cheap rings.


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I've heard of men also getting things like engagement watches (I guess they're fancy ones, not the waterproof kind :P ).
I heard of men getting engagement pocket-watches before wrist-watches were really a thing. Pocket-watches were kind of a status symbol for guys. The upper class guys had fancy expensive pocket-watches & the lower class guys had cheaper 1s.


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18 Aug 2020, 9:17 pm

^ hm maybe smartphones are the modern-day pocket watch :chin: :lol:

My mom has an antique heirloom pocket watch that I'm pretty excited to get one day