Folks, don't become like this guy

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01 Nov 2020, 7:02 pm

Ok, How many times does playing music actually work to win back your girlfriend?



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01 Nov 2020, 8:54 pm

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Ok, How many times does playing music actually work to win back your girlfriend?


Only on film :lol:


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02 Nov 2020, 4:22 am

That guy is stupid anyway, don't be stupid like him.



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02 Nov 2020, 6:11 am

Feyokien wrote:
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It worked for Howard. :heart: :mrgreen:


What works on TV doesn't usually work in real life, and television usually perpetuates unhealthy relationship concepts from generations that now have extreme divorce rates.


Seriously?
You took my joke and change the context to something serious?
Dude. 8O



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02 Nov 2020, 6:22 am

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I'm not advocating for physical violence, but getting punched is probably better than having the cops called.


No, it's not.
Unless it's a black person and the local police are racist and violent, call the police when someone breaks the law.
Don't punch people in the face. Makes you as bad (or in this case worse) than them.
Chances are round here they'd just tell the council to come round anyway, not proper cops. They'd come and say 'can you keep the noise down please'.

Normally I'm against stalkerish behaviour as learnt from the media. The media does encourage far too much in terms of 'not taking no for an answer' and 'stalking is ok'. But I think this is sweet. 4AM isn't the right time for it though.


I doubt he will do something like that again. :mrgreen:



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02 Nov 2020, 6:23 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
That guy is stupid anyway, don't be stupid like him.


He was in love.
So, yes, he was stupid. :mrgreen:



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02 Nov 2020, 12:04 pm

Sorry, but I don't view, "I'm going to make a public nuissance of myself until my ex-girlfriend agrees to come back to me," as anything other than creepy.

It's unfortunate that Hollywood glorifies stalker-ish behavior as being "romantic.

Just about every woman I know has, at some point in her life, had to deal with a man who refused to take "no" for an answer. It's usually the same men who cry about how "nice" they are despite their conduct being anything but "nice."


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02 Nov 2020, 12:22 pm

I know that I'd be creeped out if anybody tried to do that to me. I wouldn't punch the person out though. I'd report the incident to the cops.


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02 Nov 2020, 3:12 pm

But he's harming no one, if left there alone to play until he rots then where's the harm in that? It's not like he's the only street musician in the world.



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02 Nov 2020, 3:55 pm

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But he's harming no one, if left there alone to play until he rots then where's the harm in that? It's not like he's the only street musician in the world.



It's doesn't matter if you are "not harming" anyone. No one likes to be bothered when they do not want you. If someone didn't want to be my friend so I kept on showing up at places they are at or keep trying to be in the same group as them or sit at the same table as them, this would make them uncomfortable. It's the same with romance, buying them gifts, leaving them stuff at their door step, mailing them things just to show them gratitude and how much you care will creep them out and make them uncomfortable.


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02 Nov 2020, 6:39 pm

This thread is making me uncomfortable.

I'm sensing the insinuation that autistic male = creepy & that we should check ourselves before going out our front door. :roll:

Later...


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03 Nov 2020, 1:55 am

League_Girl wrote:
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But he's harming no one, if left there alone to play until he rots then where's the harm in that? It's not like he's the only street musician in the world.



It's doesn't matter if you are "not harming" anyone. No one likes to be bothered when they do not want you. If someone didn't want to be my friend so I kept on showing up at places they are at or keep trying to be in the same group as them or sit at the same table as them, this would make them uncomfortable. It's the same with romance, buying them gifts, leaving them stuff at their door step, mailing them things just to show them gratitude and how much you care will creep them out and make them uncomfortable.



But was he doing any of that? Was he following her around? No he wasn’t according to the story.

He was just playing there, alone, in the park - bothering no one. Unless this park is a place she frequents a lot.

Musicians often need an inspiration, that hope (illusionary) was his inspiration.

Yeah what he did was extremely idiot but come on ladies, stop equating him to a sexual harasser or rapist.



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03 Nov 2020, 3:07 am

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Sorry, but I don't view, "I'm going to make a public nuissance of myself until my ex-girlfriend agrees to come back to me," as anything other than creepy.


You have made your position clear in the past about this, yes. ;)

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It's unfortunate that Hollywood glorifies stalker-ish behavior as being "romantic.

Just about every woman I know has, at some point in her life, had to deal with a man who refused to take "no" for an answer. It's usually the same men who cry about how "nice" they are despite their conduct being anything but "nice."


I'm sure that is the case, in some instances.
I doubt it would be the majority of cases. 8)

I don't believe it is the case that piano-man is one of those guys.

He made a romantic gesture, it didn't pan out, he came to his senses, he stopped, he won't be doing that again.

Yes, time has shown it was a bad idea.
No argument there. 8)

Have I done something like that?
No.

Would I recommend that this should be done?
No.

Do I condemn piano-man as a stalker?
No.

Do I understand why he did what he did?
Yes. 8)



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03 Nov 2020, 3:29 am

League_Girl wrote:
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But he's harming no one, if left there alone to play until he rots then where's the harm in that? It's not like he's the only street musician in the world.



It's doesn't matter if you are "not harming" anyone. No one likes to be bothered when they do not want you. If someone didn't want to be my friend so I kept on showing up at places they are at or keep trying to be in the same group as them or sit at the same table as them, this would make them uncomfortable. It's the same with romance, buying them gifts, leaving them stuff at their door step, mailing them things just to show them gratitude and how much you care will creep them out and make them uncomfortable.


Well, the original context in this thread was a rejected partner trying to get back together with his ex.
Now you venturing out to new territory.

It seems to me that you are trying to kill off romance.
I hope you aren't suggesting that most single women are against romantic gestures. 8O

Perhaps I should make a poll.
Dare me.
You know I will do it. :mrgreen:

Oh, who do I think I'm kidding? We all know I will be making one after I finish this post. :mrgreen:



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03 Nov 2020, 3:46 am

"Howard's idea, according to the Bristol Post, was to create a bit of a viral media storm so that his ex - who he refused to name but called Rapunzel - would "know just how much I love her.""

Sounds to me like he was trying to put her on the spot to pressure her into coming back to him. Does it make him a creepy stalker? Not really. But it is heading into the realm of manipulation and inappropriateness, if for no other reason than by making a public spectacle of their relationship issues.

But on top of that, while it's cute when you frame it as "I'm going to perform in your honor in the hopes you'll come back to me!" - you can also see it as "If you won't date me, I'm going to make a public spectacle of myself until you do!", which doesn't sound as nice. He went out of his way to make sure people knew what he was doing and why, and that inadvertently puts pressure on the object of his affection.

It's like proposing to someone in front of a thousand people. That's a lot of people to say "no" in front of. And based on the number of people in this thread saying "aww that's so romantic!", odds are there would have been people in her life saying things to her like "but that was so sweet, you should give him another chance!" and putting pressure on her to take him back, whether they realized it or not. And by doing that, whether he meant it or not, he was putting social pressure on her to take him back. "I'm gonna do this until you take me back" sounds like a childish threat hiding behind "love". Not cool.

Even though he left her name out, it's not like there aren't people who will know him / her and see this - like any of either of their friends who knew they dated, or anyone who saw them together. There are far more discrete ways he could have gone about this, that might have been far more appropriate.

As for getting punched, could very well have just been a rando drunk who didn't want to hear piano anymore. Violence is bad, sure, but "getting punched" isn't necessarily the horror some people seem to think it is. Not sure why the article included it, other than making a boring article sound slightly less boring.



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03 Nov 2020, 7:22 am

Public proposal is the most stupid idea ever, I don't know why it got so fashionable.

This trend of making everything public and show off....stupid.