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20 Dec 2020, 11:22 pm

It's never too late. Some people don't meet their partners until later in life.


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21 Dec 2020, 4:15 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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While I am not virgin - and the last relationship I had was around a year ago (and the one before it ended in being cheated); I feel for instance it’s too late for me to get married, corona, a major local economic crisis (we’re the next Venezuela) ... I can’t foresee it possible.

Also too late to have a child too, as another example of “too late”. I am 38 already, and the age gap between me and the first hypothetical child would be too big already, and that’s very unfair for the child for many reasons, one of them is losing energy from my side.

There’s a limit for everything in life.



My sons were born when I was 44 and 46. Neither they nor I care about that.


Funnily, I just watched an interview with a local actress, and she was asked why she never had a child - she was like "Anyway it would be unfair now, I am now 45, If I have a child now, I will be 60 when he's 15; I will make him struggle with my diseases of old age". Exactly my thoughts.

Maybe you don't care, but a lot of others do care.

Debilitating diseases and accidents can strike at any age; I know 2 people who died of brain tumors in their late 30s, one leaving pre-teen children behind. So it is always a risk. But I'm in excellent physical health and my partner is considerably younger. I think we'll be ok, or as ok as anyone can expect to be.


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21 Dec 2020, 4:49 am

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It's never too late. Some people don't meet their partners until later in life.


Yes. But those people date and have at least short term relationships throughout their life until they meet their long-term partners. If it was possible for anyone to find me attractive someone would have in 11 years.



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21 Dec 2020, 5:04 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
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While I am not virgin - and the last relationship I had was around a year ago (and the one before it ended in being cheated); I feel for instance it’s too late for me to get married, corona, a major local economic crisis (we’re the next Venezuela) ... I can’t foresee it possible.

Also too late to have a child too, as another example of “too late”. I am 38 already, and the age gap between me and the first hypothetical child would be too big already, and that’s very unfair for the child for many reasons, one of them is losing energy from my side.

There’s a limit for everything in life.



My sons were born when I was 44 and 46. Neither they nor I care about that.


Funnily, I just watched an interview with a local actress, and she was asked why she never had a child - she was like "Anyway it would be unfair now, I am now 45, If I have a child now, I will be 60 when he's 15; I will make him struggle with my diseases of old age". Exactly my thoughts.

Maybe you don't care, but a lot of others do care.

Debilitating diseases and accidents can strike at any age; I know 2 people who died of brain tumors in their late 30s, one leaving pre-teen children behind. So it is always a risk. But I'm in excellent physical health and my partner is considerably younger. I think we'll be ok, or as ok as anyone can expect to be.


Keywords: Odds, likehood.



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21 Dec 2020, 12:06 pm

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You've mentioned you speak Arabic and that you're an ex-muslim Atheist, your situation is very similar to mine.

Let me guess....you're probably from a war-torn country, Iraq? Syria? Yemen? No legal residence, so you're probably a feeling political refugee. You don't have to say which, just nod. :P


Not quite. I was born in the US and I'm white. My mother converted to Islam and married a man from Libya when I was a kid. We moved to Libya when I was 7 and I lived there until I was 20. That's why I never had Libyan citizenship or legal residence.

I actually consider myself to be very lucky in that regard.


That explains your career.


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23 Dec 2020, 7:09 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
While I am not virgin - and the last relationship I had was around a year ago (and the one before it ended in being cheated); I feel for instance it’s too late for me to get married, corona, a major local economic crisis (we’re the next Venezuela) ... I can’t foresee it possible.

Also too late to have a child too, as another example of “too late”. I am 38 already, and the age gap between me and the first hypothetical child would be too big already, and that’s very unfair for the child for many reasons, one of them is losing energy from my side.

There’s a limit for everything in life.



My sons were born when I was 44 and 46. Neither they nor I care about that.


Funnily, I just watched an interview with a local actress, and she was asked why she never had a child - she was like "Anyway it would be unfair now, I am now 45, If I have a child now, I will be 60 when he's 15; I will make him struggle with my diseases of old age". Exactly my thoughts.

Maybe you don't care, but a lot of others do care.

Debilitating diseases and accidents can strike at any age; I know 2 people who died of brain tumors in their late 30s, one leaving pre-teen children behind. So it is always a risk. But I'm in excellent physical health and my partner is considerably younger. I think we'll be ok, or as ok as anyone can expect to be.


Keywords: Odds, likehood.


Age is not the only thing that influences your 2 words. Lifestyle, health issues, genetic predispositions, access to quality health care, education, place of residence, and other factors are important. I'd give myself better odds than an overweight, sedentary smoker living in Alabama, even if he's 15 years younger.


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23 Dec 2020, 7:44 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
While I am not virgin - and the last relationship I had was around a year ago (and the one before it ended in being cheated); I feel for instance it’s too late for me to get married, corona, a major local economic crisis (we’re the next Venezuela) ... I can’t foresee it possible.

Also too late to have a child too, as another example of “too late”. I am 38 already, and the age gap between me and the first hypothetical child would be too big already, and that’s very unfair for the child for many reasons, one of them is losing energy from my side.

There’s a limit for everything in life.



My sons were born when I was 44 and 46. Neither they nor I care about that.


Funnily, I just watched an interview with a local actress, and she was asked why she never had a child - she was like "Anyway it would be unfair now, I am now 45, If I have a child now, I will be 60 when he's 15; I will make him struggle with my diseases of old age". Exactly my thoughts.

Maybe you don't care, but a lot of others do care.

Debilitating diseases and accidents can strike at any age; I know 2 people who died of brain tumors in their late 30s, one leaving pre-teen children behind. So it is always a risk. But I'm in excellent physical health and my partner is considerably younger. I think we'll be ok, or as ok as anyone can expect to be.


Keywords: Odds, likehood.


Age is not the only thing that influences your 2 words. Lifestyle, health issues, genetic predispositions, access to quality health care, education, place of residence, and other factors are important. I'd give myself better odds than an overweight, sedentary smoker living in Alabama, even if he's 15 years younger.


Most of those factors are completely outside of my control. Including where I live, since I don't have the financial means to move away.



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23 Dec 2020, 8:10 pm

Back in 2009, my mother told me things will get better if I give them some time. Its been 11 years, and nothing ever got better.



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23 Dec 2020, 8:43 pm

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Back in 2009, my mother told me things will get better if I give them some time. Its been 11 years, and nothing ever got better.


I am 35 and my health is bad and I barely have a libido or enjoy life. I gave up on dating. At least for the next year or two. I am doing yoga and cooking, trying to find comfort at home. Meditation gives me pleasure. I barely do these things, but now carving out a room and time to do them. The fear of missing out lead me to walk around the city looking to meet women and people watching. I felt better temporarily, but worse and worse every year. Before I knew it, ten years passed and I missed out on family events, grew apart from family who are now much older and ended up fighting and hurting my family while meaning to help.

Try to find comfort in cooking, yoga, exercise, walking, meditation, routine, etc. Dating may still come, but if you make it a priority you will neglect everything else and starve yourself.



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25 Dec 2020, 6:13 pm

In regard to what Mona Pareth said about dating AS women: I found this video on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixgV5-OBQXg&t=183s

In the video, Adam talks about Tony Atwood's book and what men with AS look for in a woman. And one of those things is a woman is our exact opposite socially.

I want to know what some other people's thought on this our.



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26 Dec 2020, 12:53 am

dorkseid wrote:
In regard to what Mona Pareth said about dating AS women: I found this video on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixgV5-OBQXg&t=183s

In the video, Adam talks about Tony Atwood's book and what men with AS look for in a woman. And one of those things is a woman is our exact opposite socially.

I want to know what some other people's thought on this our.


You have to be in a mental state to be ready to date a woman even on the AS spectrum herself. The AS guys dating AS women have enough NT qualities to do that. I know I lack the NT qualities that AS guys who date seem to have.



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26 Dec 2020, 1:36 am

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Seems a religious thing. How to teach them all a bit of 'flower power' spirit? :mrgreen:


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26 Dec 2020, 6:28 am

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You mentioned your church family. So this might be a good opportunity to mention I don't have any church relations since I'm an atheist.

I don't know if you are already aware of this, but there are groups for atheists that attempt to replace the social functions of a church or other house of worship. Examples include Sunday Assembly, American Humanist Association, and Ethical Culture Society. Have you looked into whether there are any such organizations with a chapter or affiliate near you?


Interesting, thanks for explaining that, Mona.

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27 Dec 2020, 8:27 pm

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I guess I'm not a late bloomer afterall. I'm 32, still a virgin, but I'm with my second girlfriend, and feel like it's actually going to work out this time.

I approach relationships differently from most people though. I've known far too many people who only seem to be happy if they're in a relationship and who define themselves by who they're with. I instead see myself as being metaphorically like an instrument, where the tune that is my life will carry on regardless of whether I'm with someone or not. The way I see it, if I meet another instrument and the tune we produce together is worse than what I produced alone, then I'm best off being a solo act. However, if we're able to produce a tune together that's better than what I can produce alone...then that's a relationship worth pursuing. It's all about harmony, really.

I'm not interested in being tied down or held back, and never was. I don't need someone else to "complete me". I don't need to fulfil some society expectation or biological push to help reproduce the human race. Companionship is something I'm definitely interested in, although I can get some of that with my network of friends, as well as my church family. No, I need to feel as though my life is objectively better when I'm with someone, and I think my current gf checks that box.

Also, relationships are one area where it's very easy to fall into the trap of playing the game of life by neurotypical rules and expectations. So what if your NT friends and family have settled down before you? Maybe you're simply holding yourself to a standard that you really don't need to. What's important is whether or not you're happy, and while I think a relationship with the right person is great, being in one for the sake of being in one is way overrated. There has to be so much more to you than whether or not you're with someone.

... ... ...

I totally get you...You are describing ME, really enjoying being SINGLE...Enjoying the company of wonderful people and wonderful activities...Like you, I never wanted to marry for the sake of marriage...I believe in love; I just thought it happens to other people NOT me 8O ...I honestly did not believe the man for me existed...But i did not become bitter...I did the best i could with my circumstances...In fact, i accomplished great things... :D

I could have married an NT like me in my younger years when i got at least three marriage proposals...They were all attractive suitors, but i simply could not see myself in the future with any of them...Still a true virgin at age 47, i finally met he who inspired marriage, he who became my beloved (Aspie) husband...We are soon approaching our second wedding anniversary...And we are still struggling in our neuro-diverse marriage due to his autistic traits...But i cannot imagine myself with anyone else...I KNOW THAT I AM BLESSED TO HAVE HIM :wink:

I always say that i am HAPPILY MARRIED not because my marriage is free of tribulation but because HAPPY single people make HAPPY married people...During our courtship, i remember one day, telling my then fiancé, at a time when he was depressed, "If you cannot join me in my happiness, then i will be happy for both of us"...I think that was a defining moment for our relationship...To date, my beloved (Aspie) husband struggles with depression, and i struggle with anxiety...And to date, regardless of circumstances, i try to be HAPPY for both of us...As a result, he is much happier now, I think :D

Anyway, best wishes to you and your girlfriend...Say hello to her from my behalf...And share your story with as many single people as possible...Because your ATTITUDE is the right attitude, and it is what attracts others to you...I know, because this has been my experience... :D



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28 Dec 2020, 1:30 am

dorkseid wrote:
In regard to what Mona Pareth said about dating AS women: I found this video on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixgV5-OBQXg&t=183s

In the video, Adam talks about Tony Atwood's book and what men with AS look for in a woman. And one of those things is a woman is our exact opposite socially.

I want to know what some other people's thought on this our.

The only thing he seems to mention is a long term relationship. Many people want that but very few can do it.


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28 Dec 2020, 1:41 am

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Tross wrote:
I guess I'm not a late bloomer afterall. I'm 32, still a virgin, but I'm with my second girlfriend, and feel like it's actually going to work out this time.

I approach relationships differently from most people though. I've known far too many people who only seem to be happy if they're in a relationship and who define themselves by who they're with. I instead see myself as being metaphorically like an instrument, where the tune that is my life will carry on regardless of whether I'm with someone or not. The way I see it, if I meet another instrument and the tune we produce together is worse than what I produced alone, then I'm best off being a solo act. However, if we're able to produce a tune together that's better than what I can produce alone...then that's a relationship worth pursuing. It's all about harmony, really.

I'm not interested in being tied down or held back, and never was. I don't need someone else to "complete me". I don't need to fulfil some society expectation or biological push to help reproduce the human race. Companionship is something I'm definitely interested in, although I can get some of that with my network of friends, as well as my church family. No, I need to feel as though my life is objectively better when I'm with someone, and I think my current gf checks that box.

Also, relationships are one area where it's very easy to fall into the trap of playing the game of life by neurotypical rules and expectations. So what if your NT friends and family have settled down before you? Maybe you're simply holding yourself to a standard that you really don't need to. What's important is whether or not you're happy, and while I think a relationship with the right person is great, being in one for the sake of being in one is way overrated. There has to be so much more to you than whether or not you're with someone.

... ... ...

I totally get you...You are describing ME, really enjoying being SINGLE...Enjoying the company of wonderful people and wonderful activities...Like you, I never wanted to marry for the sake of marriage...I believe in love; I just thought it happens to other people NOT me 8O ...I honestly did not believe the man for me existed...But i did not become bitter...I did the best i could with my circumstances...In fact, i accomplished great things... :D

I could have married an NT like me in my younger years when i got at least three marriage proposals...They were all attractive suitors, but i simply could not see myself in the future with any of them...Still a true virgin at age 47, i finally met he who inspired marriage, he who became my beloved (Aspie) husband...We are soon approaching our second wedding anniversary...And we are still struggling in our neuro-diverse marriage due to his autistic traits...But i cannot imagine myself with anyone else...I KNOW THAT I AM BLESSED TO HAVE HIM :wink:

I always say that i am HAPPILY MARRIED not because my marriage is free of tribulation but because HAPPY single people make HAPPY married people...During our courtship, i remember one day, telling my then fiancé, at a time when he was depressed, "If you cannot join me in my happiness, then i will be happy for both of us"...I think that was a defining moment for our relationship...To date, my beloved (Aspie) husband struggles with depression, and i struggle with anxiety...And to date, regardless of circumstances, i try to be HAPPY for both of us...As a result, he is much happier now, I think :D

Anyway, best wishes to you and your girlfriend...Say hello to her from my behalf...And share your story with as many single people as possible...Because your ATTITUDE is the right attitude, and it is what attracts others to you...I know, because this has been my experience... :D

That's wonderful, Im sure you helped him. Nice work to take the pressure off of him. That's one of the most important things in a relationship.


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