Would you date me if I were at my goal weight of 140?

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09 Nov 2021, 4:35 pm

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I used to know a few people who were Goths (before the term Goth was adopted---they were known as "New Wave" or "punk" types back in the late 70s).

I never got along with them. They thought I was too "square," unworthy of their attention. They tended to be cynical and to have a dark view of the world, without much evidence for this.

It's true, though, that there are Goth types who do not reflect the stereotype.


Are you kidding?!
Life is an obscenity.
You just don't see it. 8)

Just look at all the misery that has been expressed on this website, over the many years.
It is a damned "Holocaust"! 8O
Dude, seriously. 8)



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09 Nov 2021, 4:38 pm

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How you pack weight is important as well. Generally speaking, men tend to prefer women who primarily store fat in their lower body as opposed to their upper body; this is called the pear shape. The pear shape is generally considered more attractive than the apple shape, because the pear shape has a prominent waist to hip ratio that men are biologically hard-wired to seek in a woman.

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The "fat" woman in the picture is considered fat because of her big arms, her belly, and her big waist which doesn't give her much hips. While the "thick" woman is considered attractive because she has a bigger waist relative to the hips, and primarily stores fat in her lower body as opposed to her upper body like the fat woman does.

So in your weight loss journey, ideally, you should primarily be targeting your arms and shoulders, your waist, and your belly, and try to slim them down. By slimming down your waist and belly, your waist to hip ratio will become more prominent, which is a universal attractive figure if you're a woman.


Usually the body shape is used for figuring out what clothing fits best, not a measurement of how fat a woman is. The apple shaped women if overweight will be fatter in the areas you mention but is not going to get a different body shape by losing weight. The apple shaped women cannot make their body pear shaped anymore than pear shaped could make their body apple shaped and neither of them can change to the hourglass shape and so on...essentially you're kind of stuck with your body shape. So it wouldn't be a very good use of ones time to focus on changing their body shape since that would be like holding yourself to an unrealistic standard.


Well said. 8)



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09 Nov 2021, 4:42 pm

I'm a glass half-full type----what can I say?

I know there's "bad" out there---but it doesn't affect how I relate to people.

When I meet people who hate the world, and hate people, they usually don't treat me all that great. That's been my experience.



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09 Nov 2021, 4:44 pm

Skjald wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I used to know a few people who were Goths (before the term Goth was adopted---they were known as "New Wave" or "punk" types back in the late 70s).

I never got along with them. They thought I was too "square," unworthy of their attention. They tended to be cynical and to have a dark view of the world, without much evidence for this.

It's true, though, that there are Goth types who do not reflect the stereotype.


That hasn’t been my experience with goths at all.
Then again I wasn’t even alive in the 70’s (I am a 90’s kid) so maybe there were/are different folks in the subculture when I was a teen and now compared to the 70's.


The Goths I mixed with, almost 40 years ago *were* very melancholy.
It got tiresome, in the end. :mrgreen:

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While I am, as I mentioned before, not a goth myself I have come into contact with a lot of them during the years since they shared the limited alternative spaces that existed in the town I grew up in back then so there were quiet some goths in the metal pub I used to go to on a regular basis and they just integrated fine, listened to and talked about music with us and had fun. You also often run into them at events like medieval markets for instance.

It is also important to keep in mind that under the umbrella of goths there are a dozen different types, different music, different styles etc. You have for example romantic types who are often into everything Victorian and have romanticist values (far from nihilism) then you have Cyber-Goths (not nihilistic either but entirely different), there are worlds between those.
Same with metal. It ranges from power metal to black metal. The nihilism stereotype would definitely, actually fit the second wave of black metal specifically very well but when one applies it to a musician or fan of the subgenres of power metal or folk metal for instance it becomes entirely baseless and ridiculous even.

Subcultures also, like any cultures, change and grow throughout time and with the new people who influence them.


You are right.
This is not a "binary" situation. 8)



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09 Nov 2021, 4:46 pm

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Lately I’ve been feeling very depressed and insecure about my looks. My long hair is the only thing I like about myself and have a lot of split ends and may have to cut it shorter for health. I want a guy who likes the things I like. I think weighing 140 pounds and having long hair and dark makeup and a cynical, nihilistic view on life are what alternative\goth guys want.

I admit to being vain and superficial and having no real, genuine personality of my own. I’m no a cynical person but I have to fake being cynical to get the guys that I find genuinely attractive and not a freaking athlete or jock.


When it comes to men you are willing to date, you should be more openminded. Arriving at the wall is like bankruptcy — it happens slowly then all of a sudden.



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09 Nov 2021, 4:49 pm

True cynical people will see right through you if you "fake being cynical."



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09 Nov 2021, 4:51 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm a glass half-full type----what can I say?

I know there's "bad" out there---but it doesn't affect how I relate to people.

When I meet people who hate the world, and hate people, they usually don't treat me all that great. That's been my experience.


I focus on objectively observing reality wherever I can.
Unfortunately, taking off the rose-tinted glasses has revealed a rather dystopian life system.
Many simply don't see it.

There is an entire "Dark Underworld" that you are obviously oblivious to. 8O
That may be a good thing...for you. 8)



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09 Nov 2021, 4:53 pm

I guess, according to some people, I'm stuck in the "ivory tower."

If you talk to somebody from the "third world," they would think that people who are nihilists, existentialists, that ilk are quite self-indulgent.



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09 Nov 2021, 5:15 pm

I like healthy-looking girls, ranging from average to fit.

And I also like nice girls who are also quirky.

TBH, I'm a bit average myself, even though I'm eating pretty healthy.

I have GOT to start practicing Tae Kwon Do again.



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09 Nov 2021, 5:16 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I guess, according to some people, I'm stuck in the "ivory tower."

If you talk to somebody from the "third world," they would think that people who are nihilists, existentialists, that ilk are quite self-indulgent.


Thankfully, this is all on topic. :mrgreen:

People in third-world countries have a better first-hand understanding of how bad life can be.
Unfortunately, many lack the enlightenment to reject the social brainwashing they received as children.
Many people generally, mindlessly reproduce simply because it is expected of them.

Is it the Buddhist philosophy that teaches the highest level of enlightenment has no need for procreation?
I have always suspected I was a Buddhist, in a previous life. 8)



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09 Nov 2021, 5:19 pm

They also have an understanding of how GOOD life can be.



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09 Nov 2021, 5:25 pm

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They also have an understanding of how GOOD life can be.


Q: Why did the guy hit his head against a brick wall? :wall:
A: Because it felt so good when he stopped. :mrgreen:

I have found it curious how so many people desperately hunt for happiness/blissfulness.
It is, after all, only a chemical reaction in the brain.
It is simply an organic form of drug addiction. 8)

I am not sure why I am no longer one of the "lemmings". :chin:
But I am glad I am not. :mrgreen:



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09 Nov 2021, 6:00 pm

If I was a lemming, I would have died long ago.....you don't have to be like this, you know.



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09 Nov 2021, 6:05 pm

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I have found it curious how so many people desperately hunt for happiness/blissfulness.
It is, after all, only a chemical reaction in the brain.
It is simply an organic form of drug addiction. 8)


But U Luv KFC!? an organic form of drug addiction. the desperate hunt for colonel sanders . and the resulting chemical reaction in the brain. and gut.


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09 Nov 2021, 6:07 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
They also have an understanding of how GOOD life can be.


It can be hard to feel that way when all you've known is isolation.



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09 Nov 2021, 6:07 pm

I liked it better when KFC was Kentucky Fried Chicken.