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22 Dec 2021, 12:10 am

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Sthe guy I was dating spat out the kind of attitude, that the OP did, I'd be shutting the door on his face.


I think he was just having a moment



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22 Dec 2021, 12:50 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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What's the point of even making this thread?


He's migfed with a woman he liked. She obviously doesn't think he's good enough to be her first.

"Well, fine. No one will want you... Ever", he shouts as he stomps off.


He’s addressing to « virgins » without specifying genders but I don’t think women and men generally view virginity in the same way, for women usually “who” takes it is way more important than “when”.


If you read his other thread you'll see what I mean.

He's dripping with destain for her.


I know, because he's failing to see what losing virginity means from typical woman perspective.


Do women really consider loosing their virginity more important than men though? A woman gave her virginity to me and her reaction was like it was trying a new burger at Burger King... it was alright... not bad... doesn't seem like the kind of reaction that says it was important. I also talk to me women friends and they seem to view it the same way, as it was something to cross off the bucket list, but no biggie. Unless the women were hiding their true feelings about it?



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22 Dec 2021, 3:28 am

ironpony wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
What's the point of even making this thread?


He's migfed with a woman he liked. She obviously doesn't think he's good enough to be her first.

"Well, fine. No one will want you... Ever", he shouts as he stomps off.


He’s addressing to « virgins » without specifying genders but I don’t think women and men generally view virginity in the same way, for women usually “who” takes it is way more important than “when”.


If you read his other thread you'll see what I mean.

He's dripping with destain for her.


I know, because he's failing to see what losing virginity means from typical woman perspective.


Do women really consider loosing their virginity more important than men though? A woman gave her virginity to me and her reaction was like it was trying a new burger at Burger King... it was alright... not bad... doesn't seem like the kind of reaction that says it was important. I also talk to me women friends and they seem to view it the same way, as it was something to cross off the bucket list, but no biggie. Unless the women were hiding their true feelings about it?


Put it this way. There are currently young women auctioning their virginity online for close to a million dollars. And there are men all over the world who are willing to pay.

Conversely no woman in the history of mankind would pay money to access a male virgin as they will not get any pleasure.



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22 Dec 2021, 4:13 am

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is it because aspie guys are clueless on how to go about getting sex?


Before learning how to walk first learn to crawl. From what I've seen on this forum even plucking the courage to approach and then talking to an NT girl is challenging let alone dating, friendships, relationships and hookups.


That worked for me. Get better gradually. When I started going on dates, even though they were bad and awkward dates they were still practice that prepared me for better dates.


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22 Dec 2021, 4:17 am

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is it because aspie guys are clueless on how to go about getting sex?


Before learning how to walk first learn to crawl. From what I've seen on this forum even plucking the courage to approach and then talking to an NT girl is challenging let alone dating, friendships, relationships and hookups.


That worked for me. Get better gradually. When I started going on dates, even though they were bad and awkward dates they were still practice that prepared me for better dates.


I honestly think once you get past that first barrier (and you don't carry high expectations) the rest is a lot easier.



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22 Dec 2021, 4:21 am

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20 is still a fairly common age to still be a virgin, especially in this day and age where more young people are delaying sex. Some people are awkward in high school and don't really start blossoming (physically and/or socially) until their college years and that's when they start finding more romantic success.


That's exactly my experience, right down to losing my virginity at age 20. I was awkward in high school, then I started college and suddenly guys started to notice me. :lol:


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22 Dec 2021, 9:35 am

cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
What's the point of even making this thread?


He's migfed with a woman he liked. She obviously doesn't think he's good enough to be her first.

"Well, fine. No one will want you... Ever", he shouts as he stomps off.


He’s addressing to « virgins » without specifying genders but I don’t think women and men generally view virginity in the same way, for women usually “who” takes it is way more important than “when”.


If you read his other thread you'll see what I mean.

He's dripping with destain for her.


I know, because he's failing to see what losing virginity means from typical woman perspective.


Do women really consider loosing their virginity more important than men though? A woman gave her virginity to me and her reaction was like it was trying a new burger at Burger King... it was alright... not bad... doesn't seem like the kind of reaction that says it was important. I also talk to me women friends and they seem to view it the same way, as it was something to cross off the bucket list, but no biggie. Unless the women were hiding their true feelings about it?


Put it this way. There are currently young women auctioning their virginity online for close to a million dollars. And there are men all over the world who are willing to pay.

Conversely no woman in the history of mankind would pay money to access a male virgin as they will not get any pleasure.


What pleasure do men get from virgins? For a million dollars wouldn't they want someone with more experience who is better in the sack so to speak?



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22 Dec 2021, 4:18 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
is it because aspie guys are clueless on how to go about getting sex?


Before learning how to walk first learn to crawl. From what I've seen on this forum even plucking the courage to approach and then talking to an NT girl is challenging let alone dating, friendships, relationships and hookups.


yes because a lot of guys, men, are able to talk to and interact with women, but they don't know how to talk to and interact with them in a way that gets the woman attracted to them, as in, they just get placed in the friend-zone.



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22 Dec 2021, 8:11 pm

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What pleasure do men get from virgins? For a million dollars wouldn't they want someone with more experience who is better in the sack so to speak?


Oh, the men who pay 6 figure sums are wealthy and already paying for sex and want to include a young pretty virgin on their bucket list.

I've met plenty of men over the years who keep a tab of the number of girls they took the virginity from. its some type of alpha male thing.



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22 Dec 2021, 8:13 pm

WantToHaveALife wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
is it because aspie guys are clueless on how to go about getting sex?


Before learning how to walk first learn to crawl. From what I've seen on this forum even plucking the courage to approach and then talking to an NT girl is challenging let alone dating, friendships, relationships and hookups.


yes because a lot of guys, men, are able to talk to and interact with women, but they don't know how to talk to and interact with them in a way that gets the woman attracted to them, as in, they just get placed in the friend-zone.


Correct. The trick is to get your intentions communicated so there isn't a lot of time wasting for the guy. I made that mistake and wasted many good years.



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22 Dec 2021, 8:16 pm

cyberdad wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
is it because aspie guys are clueless on how to go about getting sex?


Before learning how to walk first learn to crawl. From what I've seen on this forum even plucking the courage to approach and then talking to an NT girl is challenging let alone dating, friendships, relationships and hookups.


yes because a lot of guys, men, are able to talk to and interact with women, but they don't know how to talk to and interact with them in a way that gets the woman attracted to them, as in, they just get placed in the friend-zone.


Correct. The trick is to get your intentions communicated so there isn't a lot of time wasting for the guy. I made that mistake and wasted many good years.


even dating coaches say, admit, they say that mean have the burden of building or sparking the attraction



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22 Dec 2021, 9:21 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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What pleasure do men get from virgins? For a million dollars wouldn't they want someone with more experience who is better in the sack so to speak?


Oh, the men who pay 6 figure sums are wealthy and already paying for sex and want to include a young pretty virgin on their bucket list.

I've met plenty of men over the years who keep a tab of the number of girls they took the virginity from. its some type of alpha male thing.


But what is alpha male about it? That it's an accomplishment because virgins are hard to get? If you have to pay that much money for it, then it's not exactly winning and it feels like cheating, since the alpha male is not using actual skill.



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23 Dec 2021, 12:32 am

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What pleasure do men get from virgins? For a million dollars wouldn't they want someone with more experience who is better in the sack so to speak?


Oh, the men who pay 6 figure sums are wealthy and already paying for sex and want to include a young pretty virgin on their bucket list.

I've met plenty of men over the years who keep a tab of the number of girls they took the virginity from. its some type of alpha male thing.


But what is alpha male about it? That it's an accomplishment because virgins are hard to get? If you have to pay that much money for it, then it's not exactly winning and it feels like cheating, since the alpha male is not using actual skill.


Kind of like notches on a belt. The sad thing is these men had awful attitudes toward women (see them as meat) but these women happily throw themselves.

The problem for a wealthy man is that the women they come across are usually already sexually experienced. So that's why if they can afford it they can just find a girl online who is a virgin. Why do it? I honestly don't know? perhaps the novelty.



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23 Dec 2021, 1:44 am

But don't guys want women who are sexually experienced because it means they have skill where as virgins most likely = boring in bed, therefore? What's the appeal of virgins therefore?



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23 Dec 2021, 3:04 am

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But don't guys want women who are sexually experienced because it means they have skill where as virgins most likely = boring in bed, therefore? What's the appeal of virgins therefore?



Wealthy men who aren't married can basically hire a prostitute, sugarbaby anytime they want. They probably want the thrill of having a virgin.



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23 Dec 2021, 6:15 am

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There used to be some sort of "custom" whereby a man, upon his 21st birthday, was taken to a prostitute. I don't know how common that was---but I've read that this happened multiple times.

My personal feeling is that sex should be consensual, for free, between people who are attracted to each other. I prefer only one woman, not more than one woman at a time, or any man.


I think prostitution is a good thing to be honest, if it is regulated & the women are paid fairly and the agencies that run their business (if they are not independent) treat them well.

It is the oldest trade that is always relevant in any time period. Even in super religious cultures, people end up going 'underground' (figuratively speaking) to release their sexual energy.

I don't agree that prostitution is not consensual. In fact, by making sex transactional, it is just honest in a certain sense and 'up front'.

Ah, so you are heterosexual then, KraftieKortie?