My problem with relationships and age

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31 Jan 2022, 6:48 pm

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1. With a master's in education you should be able to go a lot of places, in the U.S. or elsewhere. There are jobs at international schools around the world. With that degree, staying in the Bible Best is a choice.


Well, I just graduated.

Where do I go? What is the process for getting there? What do I need to afford to relocate?

I have a lot of questions, and a lot of anxiety about this matter.


rse92 wrote:
Are younger women openly interested in relationships with you?


No women are interested in relationships with me.

ironpony wrote:
I feel that this is just another case of if you want to find an SO, it's just another matter of having to compromise. For example, way back when I was young I didn't want to date overweight women, but then later I realized that thin women are hard to get so maybe it's best to to just lower my standards and I will be happier. And I was. It's best to just lower your standards and compromise, in this case, lower your standards of age in a partner?


Its a good point. But where is the line between reasonable and unreasonable standards? Should I have no standards at all and just date any woman who happens to be available? I settled for my ex out of desperation despite finding nothing about her appealing. And as it turned out, she was a psychologically abusive sociopath who targeted me specifically for my vulnerability. After that, I swore I would never settle again.



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31 Jan 2022, 6:50 pm

You did better than me, Dorkseid! Congratulations!

I only have a Bachelor's.



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31 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm

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You did better than me, Dorkseid! Congratulations!

I only have a Bachelor's.


Thank you.

Why don't you go back to school?



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31 Jan 2022, 7:57 pm

I'm probably going to start going after I retire.



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31 Jan 2022, 8:04 pm

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When I was in my twenties, I had some relationships with both women and men who were in their thirties, forties, or even fifties. Since then, most of my relationships have been with people who were about ten years younger than me. In all cases, age was simply not something I was concerned about much at all. Other commonalities were MUCH more important to me.


I appreciate that. My problem is where will I as an autistic atheist find commonalities in the middle of the Bible Belt?! Not only is everyone here extremely religious, but the odds of finding anyone over 22 who isn't married are abysmal.

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I’m 61. If I wasn’t married, I’d go out with a woman in her 30s if she was willing.


Unless you happen to be a billionaire, I'd say that's a very big if.

The older people I had relationships with, when in my twenties, weren't billionaires or even millionaires.


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31 Jan 2022, 8:30 pm

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Its a good point. But where is the line between reasonable and unreasonable standards? Should I have no standards at all and just date any woman who happens to be available?

On a physical level, you should seek a woman who (regardless of age, as long as she's at least 21 or so) is attractive enough to you that you could enjoy having sex with her if the opportunity arose. Hopefully this doesn't rule out all women who are anything less than perfect beauty queens.

But what's more important than looks is her personality, attitudes, interests, and cultural background. Obviously, you don't want another abusive sociopath.

If I recall correctly, you mentioned once that you have a "girly voice" that could not be fixed by taking hormones. If that's correct, then you need to move to a major metropolitan area that has a significant LGBTQ+ community, so that you can find a bisexual woman who is attracted to androgynous men.

You should probably move to an area where there are also a lot of immigrants from Muslim countries, hence also a lot of ex-Muslims. Other factors being equal, an ex-Muslim woman would probably be able to relate to you better than someone from a Christian background.


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31 Jan 2022, 8:51 pm

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Well, I just graduated.

Where do I go? What is the process for getting there? What do I need to afford to relocate?

I have a lot of questions, and a lot of anxiety about this matter.

Does your school have a career services and placement office where you can get advice on these matters?


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31 Jan 2022, 9:41 pm

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The older people I had relationships with, when in my twenties, weren't billionaires or even millionaires.


I'm willing to bet none of them were fat slobs either.



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31 Jan 2022, 10:28 pm

dorkseid wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
The older people I had relationships with, when in my twenties, weren't billionaires or even millionaires.


I'm willing to bet none of them were fat slobs either.

The good news is, it's easier to stop being a fat slob than to become a millionaire.


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01 Feb 2022, 12:26 am

dorkseid wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
1. With a master's in education you should be able to go a lot of places, in the U.S. or elsewhere. There are jobs at international schools around the world. With that degree, staying in the Bible Best is a choice.


Well, I just graduated.

Where do I go? What is the process for getting there? What do I need to afford to relocate?

I have a lot of questions, and a lot of anxiety about this matter.


rse92 wrote:
Are younger women openly interested in relationships with you?


No women are interested in relationships with me.

ironpony wrote:
I feel that this is just another case of if you want to find an SO, it's just another matter of having to compromise. For example, way back when I was young I didn't want to date overweight women, but then later I realized that thin women are hard to get so maybe it's best to to just lower my standards and I will be happier. And I was. It's best to just lower your standards and compromise, in this case, lower your standards of age in a partner?


Its a good point. But where is the line between reasonable and unreasonable standards? Should I have no standards at all and just date any woman who happens to be available? I settled for my ex out of desperation despite finding nothing about her appealing. And as it turned out, she was a psychologically abusive sociopath who targeted me specifically for my vulnerability. After that, I swore I would never settle again.


Oh yes for sure, don't settle for just anyone. But I meant if younger women are more available, then settle for younger, as that shouldn't be too unreasonable?



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01 Feb 2022, 5:57 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
The older people I had relationships with, when in my twenties, weren't billionaires or even millionaires.


I'm willing to bet none of them were fat slobs either.

The good news is, it's easier to stop being a fat slob than to become a millionaire.


Do you understand that depression and eating disorders aren't things I can just wish away?



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01 Feb 2022, 6:16 am

You have to work on it, though.

I have to work on things, too.



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01 Feb 2022, 6:20 am

dorkseid wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
The older people I had relationships with, when in my twenties, weren't billionaires or even millionaires.


I'm willing to bet none of them were fat slobs either.

The good news is, it's easier to stop being a fat slob than to become a millionaire.


Do you understand that depression and eating disorders aren't things I can just wish away?

I realize that very well. I have been there.


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01 Feb 2022, 10:07 am

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I feel that dating women significantly younger than me is weird and creepy, and I'm not at all comfortable with the idea.

The animated movie The Killing Joke depicts a sexual relationship between Batman and Batgirl/Barbara Gordon. Many have commented on how this makes them extremely uncomfortable due to the age difference between the two, like in the YouTube video linked below. And this is simply how people are reacting to fictional characters in a cartoon.



I don't even feel comfortable going to strip clubs anymore, because many of the dancers just turned 18 only months ago.

I mean, who am I? A religious figure?!

But at the same time I just don't feel like I want a relationship with a woman in my same age group. I am probably explaining my reason in a very clumsy manner, but my issue is that women my age have typically been through a number of relationships and at least one marriage, while I'm still a man-child that likes action figures. These women are just too far removed from where I am in life for us to be able to relate to each other or have any meaningful connection. They typically have children old enough to be starting college at this point. And while I don't mind dating or marrying a woman with children, the idea of getting together with someone whose children are (or almost are) legal adults themselves just freaks me the h*ll out to no end.

So my dilemma is that I don't know who I can date anymore. It just feels like age has caught up to me and now its just too late to have the life I want.

You can like action figures and be a dick to a woman, and you can like action figures and be a gentle man. My so called warped sense of interests doesnt allow me to judge based on interests especially since i have an interest in plushies myself, but I'd hardly say it matters whether I'm autistic or not. I never tended to judge people on it, regardless of my awareness that I'm on the spectrum or that I have unusual interests and don't want to grow out of them. For a while I rid of all my plushies, but they have slowly made their way back into my life, even though not excessively but surely visibly right now. Neighbors kids judge anything as kids display judgeful, mean and non understanding abilities, I wonder how less free I was set in that shame and stuck in that mindset, like you cant even eat garlic without feeling awful about yourself and your whole life is a lie and a mask out of fear of being shamed.

People with an open mind who can take to their partners interests and find something nice in it can be really pleasant to be around for folks like us. But it doesnt mean they have to automatically like the one extreme interest you have, or logically be able to understand extreme autistic fascination, not everyone can relate with the experience and there are levels of interest in different people even on the spectrum itself. My biggest long lived interest is dogs but i cant say i excessively collect/ed dog things or put them all over my room or dedicate a room just to them ( I had bouts of it at times when i collected magazines and posters and wanted to put them up but at the same time didnt want to ruin my walls. So to me it might be even creepy at first if i were presented with such excessivity before ive known a person. At least theyre not copies of human heads in jars, but yeah, it might be overwhelming.

Don't feel ashamed as an atheist that you feel the way you do. Atheists don't have to be a certain way, and it doesnt have to come from religion. I had some issues with my young ex, she was just 19, and indeed the mindset is of a teenager with all the challenges and carefreeness, not to mention the look of youth. Sometimes I felt guilty about it because of the age (despite the difference not being so high) and especially because she had split personality disorder following extreme childhood trauma and some of her personnas, specifically her main was supposed to have been splitted/created when she was a child, and the part itself had a young age upon asking it, and for this reason there were times I denied having intimacy with this part, I felt protective about it, but after her explaining that it's not the same and it's fine and it's not harmful to her, we were able to proceed to a healthy intimacy.

In practice you might find it easier to accept or overcome when someone has older children, than what you tend to think about it as a concept without having known the person and seen their children or heard about them. But if you don't feel comfortable to do it, no one can make you do it. If you deem it right for you and will find it's not detrimental to you then by all means, also I dont have a magically good opinion of people going to strip clubs. I don't resonate with that behaviour, and I don't feel good with things that are without any connection whatsoever. These clubs might decrease the rape or sexual harrassment rate though, just like prostitutes do. As you might know, they sometimes get sexually harrassed meanwhile and after work, or stalked by men.

I am unable to watch the whole video, it's like over an hour, but if you can dirrect to the specific time in the video where things were being said and it bothered you, maybe I can understand it better. I'm not sure if you are saying just in general people talking about the relationship, and I don't think most people know about the woman being actually underage, with the way they are portrayed they often dont seem to be. But I know of the lolicon phenomenon spread throughout the world where people watch extremely underage animated depictions of children in sexual scenes and Japan's age of consent being much lower. Such pictures have made me sick before, I had an ex who was in her single days into them, and I had come to accept that kinks exist and she wouldnt harm a fly. The step brother of another ex got in trouble with his parents for having a lot of such content on his computer, his parents sat him down and explained to him how it's not okay. I can't say I have a strong opinion about false animation either or, and I'm sure there are a lot of people who would never harm a child or would do it with a real child but who watch it as it has highly grown in popularity.

And trust me what you wouldnt like to be is a religious figure like the Vatican pedophiles and other priests.

It's hard to predict who will be the right partner for you, sometimes things just fit into place, or you have to work through some. Oftentimes they are very unexpected, unlike the ideas we tend to make up in our mind about who should be our partner, so as long as you keep a relatively open mind and they do too, it probably will work out.


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01 Feb 2022, 10:48 am

I see a lot of negative posts about yourself, can you make an exercise in your next post to actually talk about several good things you appreciate about yourself?


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01 Feb 2022, 12:03 pm

I don't dislike being autistic. I just dislike the price I pay for being autistic.