Stayed with him despite horrific burns
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I would 100% stay with somebody I loved, even if they had horrific burns.
If you love somebody why would something like that mean you left them?
Unless it put you in a nursing role or something and you couldn't actually fulfill all their complex needs medically, which is a different matter.
It would only make me love them more really.
How awful for him though
His attacker is going to be released from prison soon apparently because three judges deemed him not to be a danger to society.
That's terrible.
I personally think that acid attacks are serious and grave enough in nature to be given whole life terms.
If the UK still had a death penalty I'd be in favour of people who commit acid attacks getting the death penalty.
They are about as serious as it is possible to get, it is an extremely cruel and grave act indeed.
I don't think he should be let out.
Nobody who commits an acid attack should be let out of prison again.
The risk to the general public is too high, quite aside from how serious and abhorrent the offence also is.
I would see such people as a danger to society, although are they saying this person isn't because he chose to do it for revenge for another abhorrent act (but just got the wrong person)?
That doesn't make him any less dangerous.
It's not acceptable to throw acid at anybody.
I actually think stabbing/shooting etc. somebody to death would be less cruel than mutilating them for life.
What if this person takes "revenge" again and targets the wrong person **again** ??
How is the risk to the general public too high to let someone out of prison after they've served their sentence for this?

He wasn't a serial random attacker.. it was a one off crime of passion - targeted. Wrong target, but it was targeted. He got caught, charged, convicted, sentenced, served his time for doing the crime and is now set to be released - as he should be, IMO.
By the way all you have to do is the read the comments on YouTube and the daily mail to see the vast majority of people are on the acid attack victims side and there not justifying the attackers actions like you are.
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This is why I block people on chat rooms / message boards who tell me "You look like a serial killer / pedophile." and I report them. I have no patience for this crap, especially after raising 3 kids and one grandkid in a safe environment who had all been abused by natural fathers.
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This is why I block people on chat rooms / message boards who tell me "You look like a serial killer / pedophile." and I report them. I have no patience for this crap, especially after raising 3 kids and one grandkid in a safe environment who had all been abused by natural fathers.
As a lot of people know on wrong planet I have been told by some people I look like a pedophile which is frustrating naturally.
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I would 100% stay with somebody I loved, even if they had horrific burns.
If you love somebody why would something like that mean you left them?
Unless it put you in a nursing role or something and you couldn't actually fulfill all their complex needs medically, which is a different matter.
It would only make me love them more really.
How awful for him though
His attacker is going to be released from prison soon apparently because three judges deemed him not to be a danger to society.
That's terrible.
I personally think that acid attacks are serious and grave enough in nature to be given whole life terms.
If the UK still had a death penalty I'd be in favour of people who commit acid attacks getting the death penalty.
They are about as serious as it is possible to get, it is an extremely cruel and grave act indeed.
I don't think he should be let out.
Nobody who commits an acid attack should be let out of prison again.
The risk to the general public is too high, quite aside from how serious and abhorrent the offence also is.
I would see such people as a danger to society, although are they saying this person isn't because he chose to do it for revenge for another abhorrent act (but just got the wrong person)?
That doesn't make him any less dangerous.
It's not acceptable to throw acid at anybody.
I actually think stabbing/shooting etc. somebody to death would be less cruel than mutilating them for life.
What if this person takes "revenge" again and targets the wrong person **again** ??
How is the risk to the general public too high to let someone out of prison after they've served their sentence for this?

He wasn't a serial random attacker.. it was a one off crime of passion - targeted. Wrong target, but it was targeted. He got caught, charged, convicted, sentenced, served his time for doing the crime and is now set to be released - as he should be, IMO.
By the way all you have to do is the read the comments on YouTube and the daily mail to see the vast majority of people are on the acid attack victims side and there not justifying the attackers actions like you are.
Wtf?
When did I justify the attackers actions?
I said he served his sentence and should be released.
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That’s why you’re not a judge. Sentencing is based on legal precedent, not your biased emotions.
My suggestion is that the legal precedent for such attacks ought to be changed, not for emotional reasons, but because such attacks warrant the severist penalty.
Lucy Letby isn't getting a Whole Life Order for biased emotional reasons, because she killed "cute babies" or something like that.
It's because she's so dangerous.
(Her means and methods were extremely sinister).
So are people who commit acid attacks (extremely dangerous).
Anybody who goes to the extremes of planning and orchestrating such an attack is incredibly sinister and dangerous.
That's a fact
In this case, to their intended target, not the general public.
That’s a fact.
So how would you feel about all this then if someone threw acid in your face?
Same; only with more scars.
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Legally speaking, you're right.
But, if someone SA'd a relative or good friend of mine it would be very difficult to not leave them looking like they lost a fight with a chimpanzee.
Some big humans can beat chimpanzees
You'd be hard pressed to find a person who can beat up a chimp, not just because of their strength, but also because (and this is what I meant), chimps bite and attack the eyes, crotch, fingers, toes, ears, etc. Victims of maulings by chimps lose eyes, ears, fingers and have severe hand, foot, genital and facial injuries.
What I was saying is that if someone SA'd someone I cared deeply about, I'd literally (not figuratively) chew their face off.
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This is why I block people on chat rooms / message boards who tell me "You look like a serial killer / pedophile." and I report them. I have no patience for this crap, especially after raising 3 kids and one grandkid in a safe environment who had all been abused by natural fathers.
I don't really understand the general point/subject of your post to be honest, and I don't know why you have quoted me, but when I said:
"How awful for him though"-
I was referring to the victim of the acid attack.
Not the perpetrator.
Thank you
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That’s why you’re not a judge. Sentencing is based on legal precedent, not your biased emotions.
My suggestion is that the legal precedent for such attacks ought to be changed, not for emotional reasons, but because such attacks warrant the severist penalty.
Lucy Letby isn't getting a Whole Life Order for biased emotional reasons, because she killed "cute babies" or something like that.
It's because she's so dangerous.
(Her means and methods were extremely sinister).
So are people who commit acid attacks (extremely dangerous).
Anybody who goes to the extremes of planning and orchestrating such an attack is incredibly sinister and dangerous.
That's a fact
In this case, to their intended target, not the general public.
That’s a fact.
Yeah, okay, but the nature of planning, orchestrating an acid attack, e.g. buying the acid and having the intent to cause such grievous injuries, is highly sinister and grave in nature.
It's not in any range of normal behaviour.
It's the behaviour of an extremely dangerous individual.
And they got the intended target wrong. ! !! !! !!
(Which by the way, means the general public was their target just by default).
That in itself makes this person even more volatile, erratic and dangerous in my opinion, if you want to argue the point.
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That’s why you’re not a judge. Sentencing is based on legal precedent, not your biased emotions.
My suggestion is that the legal precedent for such attacks ought to be changed, not for emotional reasons, but because such attacks warrant the severist penalty.
Lucy Letby isn't getting a Whole Life Order for biased emotional reasons, because she killed "cute babies" or something like that.
It's because she's so dangerous.
(Her means and methods were extremely sinister).
So are people who commit acid attacks (extremely dangerous).
Anybody who goes to the extremes of planning and orchestrating such an attack is incredibly sinister and dangerous.
That's a fact
In this case, to their intended target, not the general public.
That’s a fact.
Yeah, okay, but the nature of planning, orchestrating an acid attack, e.g. buying the acid and having the intent to cause such grievous injuries, is highly sinister and grave in nature.
It's not in any range of normal behaviour.
It's the behaviour of an extremely dangerous individual.
And they got the intended target wrong. ! ! ! ! ! ! !
(Which by the way, means the general public was their target just by default).
That in itself makes this person even more volatile, erratic and dangerous in my opinion, if you want to argue the point.
Yet the three higest ranking judges in the UK came to the conclusion he was not a danger to society.
That’s why you’re not a judge. Sentencing is based on legal precedent, not your biased emotions.
My suggestion is that the legal precedent for such attacks ought to be changed, not for emotional reasons, but because such attacks warrant the severist penalty.
Lucy Letby isn't getting a Whole Life Order for biased emotional reasons, because she killed "cute babies" or something like that.
It's because she's so dangerous.
(Her means and methods were extremely sinister).
So are people who commit acid attacks (extremely dangerous).
Anybody who goes to the extremes of planning and orchestrating such an attack is incredibly sinister and dangerous.
That's a fact
In this case, to their intended target, not the general public.
That’s a fact.
Yeah, okay, but the nature of planning, orchestrating an acid attack, e.g. buying the acid and having the intent to cause such grievous injuries, is highly sinister and grave in nature.
It's not in any range of normal behaviour.
It's the behaviour of an extremely dangerous individual.
And they got the intended target wrong. ! ! ! ! ! ! !
(Which by the way, means the general public was their target just by default).
That in itself makes this person even more volatile, erratic and dangerous in my opinion, if you want to argue the point.
Yet the three higest ranking judges in the UK came to the conclusion he was not a danger to society.
Well maybe they are wrong.
It's not impossible.
Please bear in mind also, that the man he threw acid at is now permanently scarred so severely he is unrecognisable from his former self.
He is blind in one eye and will never regain vision in that eye, which actually makes him registered disabled, when he was formally completely healthy.
It has had devastating long-term repercussions for him- probably including severe PTSD- many of which won't ever completely go away.
His wife stayed with him, but she could just as easily have left, meaning he had limited chances of ever meeting another partner, significantly lowering quality of life.
Plus he would have lost his marriage.
He has probably lost his former career.
I don't see why somebody who can do that level of damage should only get a few years in prison.
I think they should never be let out again.
I do indeed hope that he won't attack anybody else, definitely.
Hopefully their risk assessment is correct.
But in any case, one of my sincerest opinions is that the worst punishment should be given to acid attackers regardless, once they've committed the crime, just to deter others from using the same method to attack somebody.
I stand by that even if those judges haven't reached that conclusion.
Mostly because the UK justice system is, frankly, warped in certain areas.
I dread to think what kind of internal corruption there is inside the justice system & prisons.
Although I know a tiny smidge about some of it because my ex partner was in prison for 3 months and got beaten up by guards, & cell mates, who suffered no repercussions.
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An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
Nonsensical logic from your father
Logic has nothing to do with it. It's an emotional response.
Well maybe they are wrong.
Public school twits. Probably never been right about anything in their lives except perhaps what wine to pair with Beouf Bourgignon
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
Nonsensical logic from your father
Logic has nothing to do with it. It's an emotional response.
Yes, hence why I said "nonsensical".
It doesn't serve anything to retaliate with more violence