Ummm, So how do you a get a "school smart" girl?
Speaking as a female Mechanical Engineering major (although also as an NT) I would say that most "smart girls" want a "smart guy." That doesn't mean they have to be a science major, or even school smart, but I find people with low IQs irritating... I realize that makes me a pompous ass, but so be it. I think most girls who are smart want someone else who is smart, even if it is in a different field, or capacity.
There is a tendency I've noticed in science major girls to be a bit... I don't know... distant? Even though we're around guys more (sheer ratio of guys to girls in science major classes ensures that) I think maybe we get a little shy because of it too. It's a little uncomfortable seeing all these guys turning to stare at you because you're the first female they've seen since entering the building. It's like being put under a microscope. I'm not exactly a supermodel (note the understatement) and I feel like I get a disproportionate amount of interest from my classmates because I happen to have boobs.
I'm not sure that this is universal but not only do I want a guy who is smart... I want a guy who thinks I'm smart too. I dislike all the extra attention from guys in my class because I feel I get it for having breasts instead of having brains. I spent so many years in high school being ignored for not being pretty and popular, that the one asset I felt I had at the time (my intellect) is the only one I feel comfortable being judged on. This may be a personal quirk but I think most of my fellow female engineers are more comfortable showing you how to integrate by parts, than hearing you say they are cute. Although even though it makes me uncomfortable I'm not opposed to compliments
I guess overall be sure you're expressing interest in the person, that seems to go over well with almost everyone right?
okay, i can only tell you this from my perspective, and i am not nt.
smart girls like smart guys. they do not like try hards. they want to feel that you care for them, that you don't just want to be with them for sex. show them that you like them. if she doesn't understand you as an AS, then she is not worthit. she'll just cause you problems.
well i could give you a massive list of what helps and what doesn't, but the fact of the matter is that you shouldn't worry so much about it. if you get into a relationship by not being yourself then you will only end up being unhappy and in some ways even more lonely. the only way to do it is to Be yourself.
well thats all of the advice i can give you for now-- hope it helps!
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There is a tendency I've noticed in science major girls to be a bit... I don't know... distant? Even though we're around guys more (sheer ratio of guys to girls in science major classes ensures that) I think maybe we get a little shy because of it too. It's a little uncomfortable seeing all these guys turning to stare at you because you're the first female they've seen since entering the building. It's like being put under a microscope. I'm not exactly a supermodel (note the understatement) and I feel like I get a disproportionate amount of interest from my classmates because I happen to have boobs.
I'm not sure that this is universal but not only do I want a guy who is smart... I want a guy who thinks I'm smart too. I dislike all the extra attention from guys in my class because I feel I get it for having breasts instead of having brains. I spent so many years in high school being ignored for not being pretty and popular, that the one asset I felt I had at the time (my intellect) is the only one I feel comfortable being judged on. This may be a personal quirk but I think most of my fellow female engineers are more comfortable showing you how to integrate by parts, than hearing you say they are cute. Although even though it makes me uncomfortable I'm not opposed to compliments
I guess overall be sure you're expressing interest in the person, that seems to go over well with almost everyone right?
Well, I wouldn't really want a girl who was good looking and smart in school.
Reason- Every other guy would hit on her, and it would be a shallow relationship at best.
I wouldn't want a girl who looks like a supermodel either for the same reason above.
Basically, what I want is a girl who is "Average," but is intellectually intelligent. I can say that I wouldn't date a girl who was ugly because girls are suppose to look good.
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It seems like it came out that way but it doesn't really matter what subject she takes. I'm stereotyping that the girls in those subjects are smarter(School-Wise) than the girls who take other subjects.
And that was an interesting debate between Calandale and Gwen. Just need Julie Kittie and Prince to join.
As someone who I believe fits your definition of "smart girl" (high school valedictorian, engineering degree & master of architecture degree from top colleges), I am looking for a smart guy, who's at least occasionally funny, taller than me, and not ugly. I'd prefer someone smarter than me because moderately intelligent men are intimidated by me and stupid men annoyingly worship my intelligence. But mostly I like smart men because they understand things I like to talk about, and really, when it comes down to it, I want someone who doesn't eventually bore me, as terrible as that may sound. And if I can't talk to him about half the things I'm interested in, I'll get bored.
As to how to get a smart girl, it's the same as regular girls, just also stimulate her mind with intelligent conversation. Then as a relationship develops, make sure she knows you are into her, into who she is as opposed to how smart she is or what she looks like.
"Engineering and Med Girls" are typically not the best looking girls. Why would you want to date an ugly gal?
However, if she's worth going after, than I would say watch a lot of movies with Michael Douglas and George Clooney. They can show you everything you need to know about picking up women.
If you're an untrained Aspie, you know you're going to scare her away. Be someone else and you'll get her.
Generally speaking, the hard sciences tend to attract a different type of student than do the soft sciences or the arts.
I wonder where comp sci and mathematics
fit in. Always seemed more like philosophy
students than anything else.
The soft 'sciences' are pretty questionable.
I'd not denigrate artists with that group.
Nor historians, nor anything else except
maybe business majors.
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Break out you Western girls,
Someday soon you're gonna rule the world.
Break out you Western girls,
Hold your heads up high.
"Western Girls" - Dragon
In school I did the 'hard' sciences in the form of maths, physics and chemistry. For my degree, I'm doing social sciences with geography and sociology, which are probably as soft as your soft sciences get. I'm still the same person, despite changing focus. People and the way they function in groups are an endlessly fascinating and intricate research topic.
When I wanted a partner, I was looking for someone who would not only be my romantic partner, but also my best friend. I wanted someone who could hold me and kiss me, but who could also pillowfight and play computer games with me. I wanted someone who would pretend to be interested in my special interest (D&D , Star Trek and the Thief computer games) in return for me pretending to be interested in his special interest (the Rover P6) as well as enjoying other things together that we both liked. I wanted someone I could see myself growing old with. Someone who I could imagine waking up next to in our shared flat at the retirement home, where we could play pranks on the nurses and terrorise the other residents. I wanted someone who was literally the other half of myself.
I was lucky. I found him. We've been married four years now.
I'm a "school smart" "girl," although since my areas of study were foreign languages and social sciences (linguistics and psychology), I'm a bit insulted by some of the comments here. For the record, my aptitude for hard sciences is through the roof; the fact that I chose to do something I liked rather than what I was best at should not be causing y'all to look down on me!
Anyway, I agree with the other "smart girls" above me, with one exception: what's even more important than a guy's being smart and sharing my interests and all the normal things that everyone wants in a partner, is that he's not threatened by the fact that *I* am smart. I mean, I wouldn't date a guy who wasn't smart enough to hold an intelligent conversation with me, but TBH I've rarely met any guys who are as smart as I am, let alone smarter. But I have dated men who were intimidated by how smart I was, even when I tried to "hold back" and let them think of whatever it was before jumping in. I scored a total of 2380 (out of 2400) on my GREs (800 math, 800 verbal, 780 analytical), and the guy I was dating at the time didn't speak to me for two days. That's not cool.
So I think the most important part for you is being comfortable with how smart the girl is.
The only time I "hold back" now is when playing certain board games with my husband, and I only do that because if I didn't, I'd kick his butt so badly he'd never play with me again.
I suspect some men have tried to put me down because I'm bright but in real life, I generally hold back a lot and have even been seen as lacking intelligence. I also picked subjects I liked instead of subjects that I might have been smart enough to do but which would have bored me silly.
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Break out you Western girls,
Hold your heads up high.
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