Does anyone else find Thai girls cute?
I'd rather be in a Third World country where there's still some norms and traditions than in an Post-Industrial nation like America or Europe where most everyone is sleeping with anyone or anything with their legs open, only to then want a committed relationship 10 - 20 years later. I personally feel like Post-Industrial nations and the people in it have forgotten about self-control and moderation and are continuously wanting more and more, indulging in everything they can.
Believe me when I say I'd die a happy man if I were living somewhere where there's still some sense of self-control and discipline when it comes to urges, where committment means a lot more and is valued. Committment and self-control, I feel like, aren't valued in Post-Industrial and even Industrial societies. For being advanced nations, they sure don't display such with their actions. \:
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Understood, and I largely agree, but if you'd rather live in some place like that, why not pick one of the many countries like that, and make plans to go live there? Believe me, I've thought of doing that several times. But I don't know how "transplantable" I'd be. America has many things I'd miss, and in the long run, I'm not sure which would be better. One can't predict the future of any government, and things can swiftly change for the worse anywhere you go.
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I'd rather be in a Third World country where there's still some norms and traditions than in an Post-Industrial nation like America or Europe where most everyone is sleeping with anyone or anything with their legs open, only to then want a committed relationship 10 - 20 years later. I personally feel like Post-Industrial nations and the people in it have forgotten about self-control and moderation and are continuously wanting more and more, indulging in everything they can.
Believe me when I say I'd die a happy man if I were living somewhere where there's still some sense of self-control and discipline when it comes to urges, where committment means a lot more and is valued. Committment and self-control, I feel like, aren't valued in Post-Industrial and even Industrial societies. For being advanced nations, they sure don't display such with their actions. \:
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Understood, and I largely agree, but if you'd rather live in some place like that, why not pick one of the many countries like that and go? Believe me, I've thought of doing that several times. But I don't know how "transplantable" I'd be. America has many things I'd miss.
I have to finish my college education first before I do any moving. Thankfully, as a Sociology major, I probably will get to travel to places such as that. Also, don't forget that there's a lot of exchange students in colleges, as well, so even if it is on the basis of friendship, they'll need someone to look out for them, help them become integrated with some of the aspects of American society while still maintaining their geographical autonomy, and befriend. After all, they're in another country where their norms differ greatly from that of the country they're attending college. They'll experience one Hell of a culture shock and they need someone to help them with that, just as I'd need someone to help me with my case of culture shock when I go to another country.
I also won't deny that there'd be things I'd miss about American and that it concerns me that I might not be transplantable, either. However, I used rational theory (cost vs. benefits) and the benefits of moving to another country well outweight the costs, in my opinion.
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I really don't know, haven't met enough with them. For me though, I don't know why, but it would bother me to date an oriental girl who wasn't pretty well Americanized - not just on the basis of having things in common but the fact that it feels like you're playing a game by taking advantages of culture differences. On another note though the one thing I do see there as well, a lot of the second generation Japanese or Vietnamese girls I know are pretty cool and they do hedge more toward the alternative side of things; either the punk crowd, the raver crowd, or usually something along those lines.
I'd rather be in a Third World country where there's still some norms and traditions than in an Post-Industrial nation like America or Europe where most everyone is sleeping with anyone or anything with their legs open, only to then want a committed relationship 10 - 20 years later. I personally feel like Post-Industrial nations and the people in it have forgotten about self-control and moderation and are continuously wanting more and more, indulging in everything they can.
Believe me when I say I'd die a happy man if I were living somewhere where there's still some sense of self-control and discipline when it comes to urges, where committment means a lot more and is valued. Committment and self-control, I feel like, aren't valued in Post-Industrial and even Industrial societies. For being advanced nations, they sure don't display such with their actions. \:
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Believe me , the relationships in the 'traditional' societies are very MATERIALISTIC and greedy , the girl's parents usually interfere too much in any relationship and they test u if u can be a good 'provider' potential husband for her and most girls are raised in that way ...and as about loyalty/love/dignity there's a lot of hypocrisy in these matters here , sometimes i feel that western are more honest when it comes to relations . These are the only "norms" that you are calling for .
I'd rather be in a Third World country where there's still some norms and traditions than in an Post-Industrial nation like America or Europe where most everyone is sleeping with anyone or anything with their legs open, only to then want a committed relationship 10 - 20 years later. I personally feel like Post-Industrial nations and the people in it have forgotten about self-control and moderation and are continuously wanting more and more, indulging in everything they can.
Believe me when I say I'd die a happy man if I were living somewhere where there's still some sense of self-control and discipline when it comes to urges, where committment means a lot more and is valued. Committment and self-control, I feel like, aren't valued in Post-Industrial and even Industrial societies. For being advanced nations, they sure don't display such with their actions. \:
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Believe me , the relationships in the 'traditional' societies are very MATERIALISTIC and greedy , the girl's parents usually interfere too much in any relationship and they test u if u can be a good 'provider' potential husband for her and most girls are raised in that way ...and as about loyalty/love/dignity there's a lot of hypocrisy in these matters here , sometimes i feel that western are more honest when it comes to relations . These are the only "norms" that you are calling for .
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you were referring to arranged marriages when you talked about materialistic issues. It's no lie that arranged marriages are more based on economic benefit than 'honesty and love in relations'. However, at the same time, people in arranged marriages not only stay together longer, but are happier. Both parties have to come to learn to love one another, as opposed to modern society where, if you fall 'out of love', so to speak, one or both parties are all 'LOLZ IS IT CAN B DIVORCE TIEM NAO PLZ'.
That's something else that bothers me about post-industrial societies: very little to no effort seems to be put into maintaining a healthy relationship. We take love for granted here in America, I think like. People go into a relationship head-and-feelings first, and then after they realize they f****d up, THEN they want to rationalize it (or lie about it or hide it) when they wanna move onto the next relationship, where it then becomes a gamble of multiple factors, including taking both partner's sexual pasts into account, STD testing (which in most cases isn't cheap if you're going for a full-screening), children from the other partner's last relationship(s), etc. There are men and women out there who don't want to have to deal with past factors in their partner and will leave them when/if they catch wind about it.
In arranged marriages, both partners learn to love one another. They pretty much have to to keep the financial and material benefits gained from that marriage. They can separate if they so wish. There's nothing holding them back (in most cases). However, from most of the conversations I had with my Sociology instructor, they do stay together and never split apart.
I know most people don't agree with me on this point of view, and that's fine. I expect such to happen in society today. I wasn't joking when I said I'm very traditional and conservative when it comes to relationships. However, despite how 'honest' Westerners are about love and relationships, at the same time, they pass it around carelessly and without responsibility, and then when they do get into trouble, they want to rationalize their behavior so they don't have to take on the responsibility and repercussions of their actions.
This is why I claim myself to be heterosexual with an asexual lean. I know what I'm looking for in a relationship. I strongly believe that there's nothing wrong with it. I know I'm in a country where my views are the minority and that I'll often be ridiculed and made fun of for them, thus I'm likely to remain single for a very long time, if not until my death. That's fine, though. While they're making fun of me while I'm pursuing my goals and being successful in college, they'll be catching STD's, breaking hearts, having to make ends meet as a single-parent family, and suck themselves into a deeper and deeper hole after each mistake they make. In the end, the ones who were laughing for not being part of the 'norm' at me will be the ones who'll reap the consequences of their feelings-first actions.
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Very nice, but they all look half-white for some reason. I guess they try to Americanize themselves a bit for the contest.
The girls at the various Thai restaurants I frequent look fully Oriental.
Like this:
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I'd rather be in a Third World country where there's still some norms and traditions than in an Post-Industrial nation like America or Europe where most everyone is sleeping with anyone or anything with their legs open, only to then want a committed relationship 10 - 20 years later. I personally feel like Post-Industrial nations and the people in it have forgotten about self-control and moderation and are continuously wanting more and more, indulging in everything they can.
Believe me when I say I'd die a happy man if I were living somewhere where there's still some sense of self-control and discipline when it comes to urges, where committment means a lot more and is valued. Committment and self-control, I feel like, aren't valued in Post-Industrial and even Industrial societies. For being advanced nations, they sure don't display such with their actions. \:
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Believe me , the relationships in the 'traditional' societies are very MATERIALISTIC and greedy , the girl's parents usually interfere too much in any relationship and they test u if u can be a good 'provider' potential husband for her and most girls are raised in that way ...and as about loyalty/love/dignity there's a lot of hypocrisy in these matters here , sometimes i feel that western are more honest when it comes to relations . These are the only "norms" that you are calling for .
Wrong and right , Lebanon is not a typical arabic country where arranged marriage is the only kind of marriage ...the arranged marriages here still in the rural regions but it 's becoming less and less common in cities . Here , we have the boyfriend-girlfriend system like any country in the west and ppl follow it since adolescence : the guy talk to a girl ==> ask her out ==> she accepts ....BUT (and the whole issuer in this but ) BUT she must get the approval from the girl's parents ==> he must visit her parents and let them know him first well in all aspects (and most importantly to know how much his income) and then maybe they allow him to go out with her ..and it doesn't matter if the girl is adult or not , even if the girl is above 25 ...doesn't matter she still have to get her parents' approval and still the parent must see the guy before any date , so any relation here must be kinda formal . Sex before marriage is totally forbidden by parents (even tho most couples do it secretly somehow) and in some families parents don't allow the girl to go out with the guy alone , a brother or one of the parents must be present during the date lol.
this is like a semi-arrange marriage but the only difference is the guy is picked by the girl at first and not by parents like in arranged parents but she won't have a lot of chance if the guy doesn't meet the standards of her parents (and the financial standards are very crucial) , that's why girls here tend to pick the wealthy , in fact "the man must be a good provider" is sticked in their heads . That;s why Rare the girls who are really ambitious here despite that most of them attend the college and graduate but a lot of them work for a couple of years after university and they quit working after marrying , this month only 2 smart females coworkers left the company for good because they got married and other tending to do that too .
Okay, I'm afraid I'm going to have to extend my "Thai girls" thread to include Chinese, because I've just seen perfection in the form of a Chinese Restaurant hostess.
Granted, one Chinese girl is not enough to generalize an entire people, but... Oh, I give up!! ! Who am I kidding? ALL COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD HAVE GORGEOUS WOMEN!
(Not that I care, of course, as I will not be partaking in the intimate company of any of them.)
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