I want an aspie girl like the one in Americas NTM to find me

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04 Nov 2007, 11:23 pm

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Ah, these mental "ideals" are kind of dangerous. I kind of had the same mindset before actually... it's easy to think up ideals of what a great relationship would be, with a list of qualities, But as you said there is no guarantee that this ideal girl would be with you. In fact what I am finding is that if you view women like this, your chances of attracting and being with her are greatly reduced. Because you are trying to be with her, not because you like to have fun and be with her... but because she has an "ideal" feature set.

I'm no expert by any means, but what I am seeing as a better approach is to enjoy and have a good time with women on a friendship level first... regardless of all the details about her. This changes the focus from an ideal, to the the actual women who are around you.

After having fun and just being around these women, you start a relationship if you find someone you communicate and connect with better than anyone else. And this quality, the connection... is much too complicated to come down to a list of qualities.


I guess you are right. Even if I find a girl who meets all the ideal features I'm looking for, and even if she likes me, there is no guarantee there will be a meaningful connection between the two of us. My mistake was to assume that such a connection would naturally follow after finding and being found by the "ideal" girl. The moral of the story? There is a new criteria my ideal girl must have: "being able to help establish a meaningful connection between the two of us."



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04 Nov 2007, 11:38 pm

I'm fat and beautiful. :D


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05 Nov 2007, 12:08 am

I guess it comes down to what kind of communication you need.

Personally, I am looking for something a little more meaningful than the mindless drivel that most nt's seem to thrive on.



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06 Nov 2007, 1:16 pm

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I was joking. Its a phrase, too smart for your own good.
But partly true. When your brain doesn't stop analyzing things it can lead to depression. Sometimes I wish I was an idiot
and didn't think about things as much as I do, like the idiots that seem happy.
Um, my main passion is photography, so I help people out and participate as a model as a hobby. That doesn't mean that I'm narcissistic, thats a stupid/rude/mean thing to say.

My point, why I wrote that, is because I have a lot of problems with social skills, and don't get dates. If someone *IS* interested in me, I trying to show it subtly, I wouldn't even notice I guess. So you cant really say a person with the criteria of being an attractive aspie is like an ideal. I still have no life, accidently offend people, can't keep a regular job, don't have friends. I don't think it would matter if the person potentially interested in me has AS, they would probably give up on me like everyone else does.


You're talking to the completely wrong person about this then.

When people describe me they mostly use comments like "How could a guy so good looking be such a nerd?" or more frequently "He is just eye candy; but beyond that he is nothing else."

It is true that good looks are 100% useless if your personality doesn't match the way you look. And you cannot fully understand this until people will just stare at you and then start laughing at you 10 minutes later.

I guess I just judge everything how I perceive it though.

And you see how you got into an argument with yourself about not being an idiot? I think you are slightly narcissistic. My reasoning is that I am also narcissistic to some some extent.



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06 Nov 2007, 1:27 pm

Are you serious or being sarcastic ? Why a gorgeous model like heather would even look at you ? Are you rich? Do you look like a male model?
I do not think so.

wake up



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06 Nov 2007, 2:52 pm

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Then again, I'm realistic and realize that for every aspie loser out there, there is a successful aspie somewhere else (maybe he is the head of a technology company), towards whom aspie girls are a lot more like to gravitate.


Then be a successful aspie, my man. ;)
Thoughts of pain are all delusional - immerse yourself in the world of risks... you can be a successful aspie... and I don't neccesarilly mean in the work world but as a guy getting girls and that.


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06 Nov 2007, 9:26 pm

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You're talking to the completely wrong person about this then.

When people describe me they mostly use comments like "How could a guy so good looking be such a nerd?" or more frequently "He is just eye candy; but beyond that he is nothing else."


lol :P

When I was good looking, I received a healthy amount of attention from women, and more than one time I heard some of the girls who had already approached me tell girls who hadn't approached me not to bother with me.

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It is true that good looks are 100% useless if your personality doesn't match the way you look. And you cannot fully understand this until people will just stare at you and then start laughing at you 10 minutes later.


When that happens, don't you wish women had never approached you/stared at you? If you ever get tired of being humiliated by women, become ugly. Women rarely pay attention to ugly men (which means they won't bother laughing at you).



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06 Nov 2007, 9:43 pm

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I want an aspie girl like the one who is participating in the current cycle of America's Next Top Model TO FIND ME and ask me to date/marry her. I'd love to have a girlfriend/wife like Heather. Aspie, beautiful and intelligent. What else can I ask for?

Is that a realistic dream or am I asking for too much?

Yeah you are asking too much. Maybe you could go look for her and ask her to date/marry you, I think that plan would have a higher chance of success.



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06 Nov 2007, 9:47 pm

I agree with Brian003 that good looks are not very useful to a male if he doesn't have the social skills to back them up. You could take an ugly guy with great social skills and a very good looking guy with none, and the bad looking guy will probably get tons of girls because he knows what to do. Men are supposed to "persue the woman," so a girl may think, "hey that guy is sexy" and maybe give him a glance and smile, but if the guy doesn't know how to approach her/talk to her right, he won't get a date. Then you could have a guy who just walks up to her and is much less good looking, but is a slick talker, and he will talk her into bed that night. It's guys who are good looking AND have good social skills that can really get any woman they want.



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06 Nov 2007, 10:31 pm

or you could act like a jerk, which doesn't require a lot of social skills. (they say women like jerks)



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07 Nov 2007, 12:10 am

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or you could act like a jerk, which doesn't require a lot of social skills. (they say women like jerks)
Who are they, and what have they done with my socks?



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07 Nov 2007, 2:41 am

I find social encounters with aspies incredibly intriguing... I mean if I can relate to one, it's like sizing up for me you know like them dinosaur creatures do... the ones nicknamed headbangers... can't remember their real name. :lol:


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07 Nov 2007, 4:14 am

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My name is also Heather, I also do modeling (alternative pinup style) my portfolio, and I'm too smart for my own good.
I also can't get any dates. I've only had a couple boyfriends and nobody hits on me because I weird people out. So yeah, its not any easier being me. I've kind of given up ever finding someone that I'm attracted to and also get along with well. Ill most likely spend the rest of my life alone.


start by getting rid of that earring in your nose. it doesn't make you look good. all the opposite.


Oh. I see right there why you dont have a girlfriend. You're a dickhead. Yeah, like I'd take out my nosering to please YOU. I happen to like it, and many other people like it. Go F**K yourself you pretentious superficial moron. Can I see a photo of you so I can tell you to fix your ugly nose with plastic surgery? That comment was uncalled for. you're just being a mean jerk for no reason, trying to make someone who already has so many people problems feel like crap. Pathetic.


My problem is not with you, my problem is with the way earrings in people's noses look. Unless those earrings were surgically appended to your body and are now technically considered part of "you," you shouldn't feel offended by my comment. If I showed someone my picture, and they could honestly tell me everything that they found "wrong" with me, I think I'd feel grateful for their feedback. I hate it when you ask someone for feedback and they sugarcoat their answers out of fear they'll offend you if they tell you the truth. That type of feedback is worthless.


Hey although I can't speak for Mysticaria, as someone with numerous piercings myself I do realize that i think of them more as part of my body than as something seperate.
Also its generally something thats personal on some level for the person.
Also theres a difference between constructive criticism and what you did. Constructive criticism would have been being somewhat tactful and just getting your point accross, not preaching, just stateing your opinion and maybe makeing a helpful suggestion or two in a non-conflict oriented manner.

You pretty much went out and cut her down for no damn reason with your comments. Which were put forth in a rather snide and dickish way, so at least understand how people can react harshly or defensively to that kind of thing, cause it is kind of mean whether you meant it that way or not.


As for Mysticaria, I rather enjoyed your picture things. Your a verry pretty girl and if I weren't currently with someone I cared deeply about....and if you didn't live in canada lol, i think I or any guy would be lucky to come accross a counter culture alt-pinup beauty such as yourself.



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07 Nov 2007, 9:14 am

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My name is also Heather, I also do modeling (alternative pinup style) my portfolio


Model Mayhem? I'd never heard of this. Your pics look good, though the avatar of one of your mm friends immediately disturbed me..

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Agh!



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09 Nov 2007, 6:59 pm

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My name is also Heather, I also do modeling (alternative pinup style) my portfolio, and I'm too smart for my own good.
I also can't get any dates. I've only had a couple boyfriends and nobody hits on me because I weird people out. So yeah, its not any easier being me. I've kind of given up ever finding someone that I'm attracted to and also get along with well. Ill most likely spend the rest of my life alone.


start by getting rid of that earring in your nose. it doesn't make you look good. all the opposite.


Oh. I see right there why you dont have a girlfriend. You're a dickhead. Yeah, like I'd take out my nosering to please YOU. I happen to like it, and many other people like it. Go F**K yourself you pretentious superficial moron. Can I see a photo of you so I can tell you to fix your ugly nose with plastic surgery? That comment was uncalled for. you're just being a mean jerk for no reason, trying to make someone who already has so many people problems feel like crap. Pathetic.


Well, she does have a point.

But still, the way you respond DOES make it seem to me like you are narcissistic.

If that is rude/mean then it is only because it is the way that I have interpreted your writing. It isn't anything personal.



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03 Dec 2007, 8:56 pm

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I don't think of myself very highly... well to an extent... I'm not overly confident or what have you. I do have what I want out of a relationship which is different from others I think. I have an interest as you say, but it's in being there for someone. Sharing thoughts, feelings and my life on a level that is incomparable with anyone else. In a strange twist to be attracted to the qualities I don't like in someone... if that makes any sense.


I was rereading this thread and noticed that I never replied to Pugly's latest comment. Before I address Pugly's comment, I'd like to say wow!, my way of thinking has changed quite drastically during the past month. Basically, Pugly, I want to be with a woman who will accept me for who I am. I want to be with a woman who will appreciate my quirks and my aspieness. I want to be with a woman who will share my feelings and my way of thinking. I want to identify with her dreams, goals, ambitions and offer her a level of empathy noone has offered her before. I want her to feel like I am the only person in the world who understands her. I want her to be herself in spite of whatever flaws she might have. I want an emotional connection between the two of us. Isn't that what love is about?