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What is my main obstacle?
Too honest 9%  9%  [ 6 ]
Geographical location 9%  9%  [ 6 ]
Don't have similar interests as anyone 13%  13%  [ 9 ]
Don't have the right personality 11%  11%  [ 8 ]
Something else 59%  59%  [ 41 ]
Total votes : 70

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20 May 2008, 9:03 am

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I agree with most of that. But, It is not about pretending to someone that you not but about presenting yourself in the best light. Those guys are probably making the right eye contact, listening as well as talking, presenting the right body language, etc. If you are not showing the correct non verbal signals you could be silently telling people to "go away, I'm not interested". Don't throw away everything that you learned from your test.

Confidence is very important when it comes to how people perceive you. If someone does not seem comfortable with him/herself then they may look like a lot of work. That can put people off on the first meeting. Once they get to know him/her they may feel that they are worth it, but first impressions can often kill the deal. Sometimes you do need to pump yourself up, remind yourself how great you are, that you are as good as anyone. A good run or gym workout can be great for this. (and good shower afterwards :))

If Daewoodrow 'loathes' those guys it is probably because they are over doing it and coming across as over confident or arrogant. But a little confidence is good even if you do have to fake it. Everyone does at times.


Thank you, that was some good advice. I'm continuing the "experiment" now anyway, because I figured I have alot to find out about myself from observing the reactions. But i'll try not to immediately pin the cynical outcome to every result now.


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20 May 2008, 9:20 am

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I am sorry you feel hated here. I know there are people here who hate me, so I know the feeling.

I can think of several barriers.
1. Do you think that once a woman shows any interest in you, you're no longer interested? Like you're not worthy of them if they're interested?
2. Texas, as far as I know, is the land of fake women. Maybe geographically you're screwed.
3. Honestly, being unemployed is the kiss of death regarding women. I am in a five year old relationship with a guy who was employed when I met him, and has not been good at bringing much money in to the household, but I put up with that because he tolerates me. But had he been unemployed when I met, well, I wouldn't have even met him.

I lucked out. I went on match.com on a lark, put in the EXACT criteria for "the perfect guy" for me, and he popped up.


The unemployment is because I am a full-time college student, so it's not like I sit around the house and do nothing. I am off for the summer. I feel I won't fit in in college because of my age (I'm 28, and in this case, being older than 22 is a kiss of death).

I have never heard of the "fake women" concept. Even though Austin is probably an exception to the rule, I am not entirely optimistic.

I am not particularly attracted to hippies/hipsters, but many people with the same interests and beliefs tend to veer in that direction, unfortunately.


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20 May 2008, 11:26 am

Self presentation.

You're not unemployed you are a mature student. (UK definition anyway)



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20 May 2008, 12:01 pm

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Self presentation.

You're not unemployed you are a mature student. (UK definition anyway)


That's what my definition would be.

However, people in Texas usually think in extremes about various things.

In Texas, somebody is either exceedingly wealthy or a hillbilly. Somebody is either a holy-roller or a pagan (I feel that it is completely possible to be both a Christian and liberal).


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20 May 2008, 12:25 pm

That's true about Texas.. :? Move to Montana! That's where I'm moving. You live in Wichita Falls, yes?

Anyway, I'd say perhaps you should just stop trying? Not as in giving up, but I mean.. Well I don't know what I mean. Read one of those self-help books on first impressions? That may help. I read one recently, called "First Impressions" (forgot who it's by), see if your library has it.

Or! You could try this dating website. There's one called OKCupid that's free (as far as I know), uncomplicated and actually entertaining.. The one time I made an account out of boredom, I was matched very well. I even made a few friends. So you may want to look into that.. or browse around the site at least.


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20 May 2008, 12:29 pm

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That's true about Texas.. :? Move to Montana! That's where I'm moving. You live in Wichita Falls, yes?

Anyway, I'd say perhaps you should just stop trying? Not as in giving up, but I mean.. Well I don't know what I mean. Read one of those self-help books on first impressions? That may help. I read one recently, called "First Impressions" (forgot who it's by), see if your library has it.

Or! You could try this dating website. There's one called OKCupid that's free (as far as I know), uncomplicated and actually entertaining.. The one time I made an account out of boredom, I was matched very well. I even made a few friends. So you may want to look into that.. or browse around the site at least.


I have transferred to Texas State in San Marcos, because I had changed my major to geography/urban planning because I was struggling in geology, and MSU didn't offer geography as a major.

I want to leave Texas, but I still have a year and a half of school left.


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20 May 2008, 12:42 pm

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I feel that it is completely possible to be both a Christian and liberal


Jesus sounded pretty liberal to me.



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20 May 2008, 12:42 pm

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Jesus sounded pretty liberal to me.


I've actually heard that.


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20 May 2008, 1:32 pm

Ok Tim, you just want aspie girls?

So let's do some math.

Let's say that world population is 6bil and let's say that the half are females: 6bil/2 = 3 bil

Most stats say that aspies are born 1 per 1000 and the female:male ration is 4:1 , so 1 female aspie is born per 4000.

3bil/2000= 1500000 female aspies in the whole world.

Based on what we are observing here on WP, the vast majority of female aspies here are taken, I will generous and say that 30% are single so 0.3*1500000=450000 single female aspies in the whole world.

You are 28 years old,of course you won't date a 40 yo girl or 13 yo girl ,no? so let's say that 20% of the single female aspies are in the age range of [18-30]

so 0.2*450000= 90000

And oh.....remember that some of them are taller than you and some are heavier than you and some who are homosexual and some who are out of your league , so let's say that 30% can be attracted to you.

90000*0.3 = 27000 ONLY aspie girls that might be attracted to you distributed in the whole world :D .

Now I am sure that many would claim that aspie girls are way over-diagnosed , ok let's say that the real number of aspie girls are 10 times (and that's a way exaggerated) than the formally diagnosed nb of aspie girls.

So you have about 270000 available aspie girls ONLY

See Tim what obstacle you are brining to yourself?


And here I am not even taking the geographic distance into consideration. That's why I hardly believe the hundreds of love stories and threads that pop-up in WP every while about an aspie met another aspie or an aspie that coincidently met another person who happened to be an aspie too, fascinating! I have no proof that they are lying but I can hardly believe most of them.



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20 May 2008, 5:58 pm

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Most stats say that aspies are born 1 per 1000 and the female:male ration is 4:1


I thought it was 1:150


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Based on what we are observing here on WP, the vast majority of female aspies here are taken, I will generous and say that 30% are single so 0.3*750000=22500 single female aspies in the whole world.


Being on WP is not a prerequisite.

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You are 28 years old,of course you won't date a 40 yo girl or 13 yo girl ,no?


While I prefer people close to my age, I do not require anyone to be a specific age. In the U.S., the age of consent is 18, so that is as young as I will date.


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20 May 2008, 6:25 pm

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Confidence is very important when it comes to how people perceive you. If someone does not seem comfortable with him/herself then they may look like a lot of work. That can put people off on the first meeting. Once they get to know him/her they may feel that they are worth it, but first impressions can often kill the deal. Sometimes you do need to pump yourself up, remind yourself how great you are, that you are as good as anyone. A good run or gym workout can be great for this. (and good shower afterwards :))


I do keep in shape, and quite diligent with it. I also worked on my goal of creating the ideal living environment, and completed it a few days ago. I always like to have some project going, although lately, I have begun running low on ideas.


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20 May 2008, 8:23 pm

I feel that the one who is perfect for me is an opposite-sex version of myself, or at least that's what people often lead me to believe.


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21 May 2008, 1:34 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
Most stats say that aspies are born 1 per 1000 and the female:male ration is 4:1


I thought it was 1:150
It could be. There is speculation regarding learned social behavior and/or differences in the development of the AS that may inhibit the female diagnosis.



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21 May 2008, 8:10 am

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LePetitPrince wrote:
Most stats say that aspies are born 1 per 1000 and the female:male ration is 4:1


I thought it was 1:150
It could be. There is speculation regarding learned social behavior and/or differences in the development of the AS that may inhibit the female diagnosis.


I also think the 4:1 ratio is false. I think it may very well be evenly split.


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21 May 2008, 1:08 pm

calculation's post corrected, I should had to divide by 2000 instead of 4000 since the the 4000 includes males and females :oops:

but still the number is too too small for the world :? ,extremly bad strategy.



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21 May 2008, 1:18 pm

So Tim, you decided to defy the most known stats results and want to apply your own results?

1 in 150 has AS?? I thought that the case of the Autism Spectrum as a whole including the Classic Autism and PDD-NOS . Aren't 90% of autistics are Classic(severe) autistics?


And all autism surveys show that autistic males are much more than the females and that including the classic autism cases. The "Aspie girls are way underdiagnosed theory" is most probably wrong since all other autism disorders show big imbalance of gender ratio unless if Asperger is not an autism disorder (but studies show that they are related,no?) , many aspie girls might be not noticed as odd cases by the society but certainly classic females autistic can't be missed.

Anyways, ok Tim....let's redo the math according to YOUR false fictive stats

6bil/2 =3 bil estimated nb of females in the world
1:150 are aspies and let's say that 1:1 are M:F , so 3bil/150=20 millions of female aspies


Let's say that 50% of them are currently single :? that makes 10 million available female aspies.

Let's say that you don't care about age and you are too sexy to the extent that all of them will fall for you ....that would make ...hmm 10 million female aspies!! Much better number than before.

But how many of them would be in US? hmm. Let's say that aspies birth rate is the same for all countries , so 301,139,947/6bil =~5% , 0.05* 20 millions = 1000000 female 'aspies' (in fact it's 1mil female autistics which abt 90% of them are classic autistics)

If you can only just date within your state that would make things even worse for you.

Note that I skipped the last part of the calculation in my first post because it will make the result much smaller there ;) 270000 (see the first post) *0.05 will make only 13500 available aspie girls only in US



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