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15 Jan 2009, 8:35 am

If AS guys have to rely on attracting women with AS, a minority of a minority who as the polls indicate here often marry at an early age and may be more likely than the average to be asexual or have relationships with other women, then there's not much hope anyway. But of course that's not true, unless the NT women claiming to have married men with AS are all lying or mistaken.



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15 Jan 2009, 8:42 am

Well.... darn if that's true /:


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15 Jan 2009, 8:44 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Dude... looking at the sort of rubbish you post here... what do you expect aspie girls to want?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1899353 ... t=#1899353


If you hate me so much, how about I just start on a new username so I start fresh and not make mistakes the second time? In case you say, "Oh, your mistakes will slip through all right," "Practice Makes Perfect" is what they say. :wink:


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15 Jan 2009, 8:44 am

MissConstrue wrote:
Well.... darn if that's true /:

That's not to say I'd rule out women with AS completely, quite the contrary, it just doesn't seem sensible for men with AS to put any stake in "Aspie gals". Ultimately a small minority of single AS men my age or older will go on to marry such women.



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15 Jan 2009, 9:14 am

Which brings me to this question...How would you know an aspie if you met one?

These forums make it seem as if AS are of a different specious than people who happen to be Neurotypically "normal". I mean ASD isn't that noticeable to me. I've met NTs who I would describe as coming off aspie-ish or akward in their social skills.

Hell no one knew I had ASD until a couple of years ago and even when I mention to people as of being under the autism spectrum they can't believe it.... :?

That's not to say your theory is wrong Hector it's just that I don't see how it would be that obvious of someone until you got to know them real well. But even then you'd have to speculate if they didn't tell you already.


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15 Jan 2009, 9:41 am

EgaoNoGenki wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Dude... looking at the sort of rubbish you post here... what do you expect aspie girls to want?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1899353 ... t=#1899353


If you hate me so much, how about I just start on a new username so I start fresh and not make mistakes the second time? In case you say, "Oh, your mistakes will slip through all right," "Practice Makes Perfect" is what they say. :wink:


Obviously you don't have any shred of logic in your post.
Practise makes perfect? That dosnt apply to everything, really, and obvious in your case.
And what's also funny is.... Do you really think that changing a name will change ones personality or behavior? That you actualy believe n this is really sad, and you would have to behave fake unless you don't want people to find out who you really migth be.

And besides, you brougth this hate upon yourself Einstein



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15 Jan 2009, 9:42 am

Tias wrote:
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I saw several times elsewhere on WP Aspie women saying that they wouldn't want to date Aspie men. I don't remember the topics they were from anymore. That's why I started to believe that Aspie women didn't want Aspie men. I guess the Aspie women who said the above were merely a niche.


Oh my, I forgot that the aspie females on this website talked for ALL the aspie women out there. How could I not have logicaly seen the connection Between a few ignorant aspie women and the rest of the whole worlds aspie girls?

/ sarcasm off

Logic, do you know what that is?
2+2 = 4, NOT 5 because a few people say so.


I think more than several Aspies do not want to date other Aspies just because of the difficulties of dealing with your own obsessions and idiosyncracies and then adding on another person's.

I suppose ideally everyone would want a 1/2 Aspie 1/2 NT. A sympathetic person without some of the inherent struggles of AS.


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15 Jan 2009, 9:52 am

Shiggily wrote:
Tias wrote:
EgaoNoGenki wrote:
I saw several times elsewhere on WP Aspie women saying that they wouldn't want to date Aspie men. I don't remember the topics they were from anymore. That's why I started to believe that Aspie women didn't want Aspie men. I guess the Aspie women who said the above were merely a niche.


Oh my, I forgot that the aspie females on this website talked for ALL the aspie women out there. How could I not have logicaly seen the connection Between a few ignorant aspie women and the rest of the whole worlds aspie girls?

/ sarcasm off

Logic, do you know what that is?
2+2 = 4, NOT 5 because a few people say so.


I think more than several Aspies do not want to date other Aspies just because of the difficulties of dealing with your own obsessions and idiosyncracies and then adding on another person's.

I suppose ideally everyone would want a 1/2 Aspie 1/2 NT. A sympathetic person without some of the inherent struggles of AS.


Half AS half NT? Sorry but that's abit BS'ish.
Either a person is a AS with mild traits them or none at all.

And I find it so godly ignorant of any person limiting their feelings.
What if someone says "I whont date x type people, because of this and that, and want a y type person"
Ignorant as that is, what if she met x1, and rigth away concludes who doabt want to date him, JUST because he is a x type, and goes for y1.
However, if the person had chosed the x1 person, it would have been a good relationship, however that was drawnded just because of some ignorant idea, I really think people should start folllowing their hearts instead of setting such ridicules things up.



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15 Jan 2009, 10:18 am

EgaoNoGenki wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Dude... looking at the sort of rubbish you post here... what do you expect aspie girls to want?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1899353 ... t=#1899353


If you hate me so much, how about I just start on a new username so I start fresh and not make mistakes the second time? In case you say, "Oh, your mistakes will slip through all right," "Practice Makes Perfect" is what they say. :wink:


Not if you keep doing what you're doing. All I've seen you do is put members down.

I'm no saint and no one is either but enough is enough. Hell even I'm still learning about myself since I joined this and other forums. You can't expect people to side with you if you're being a jerk to them and everyone else.

I don't care what you do but when you offend people like you did to one member on a thread, yeah you're going to get a reaction. I think most of us having been accepting to eachother's mistakes. Maybe the responses aren't great or ideal but you can debate without personally attacking people here.

And I got to say that my post was probably not the best way to respond in your random topic so I apologize. But you directly humiliated one member in addition to these posts about the members here who don't meet your criteria. So I don't know how you expect everyone to be forgiving if you keep doing it!

Anyway, I don't see why you can't post if you just stop stirring the pot like you've been doing about other members here. I know I've done the same thing too but I learned by not doing it again. People don't like to be openly offended and obviously you don't either.


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15 Jan 2009, 3:45 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Which brings me to this question...How would you know an aspie if you met one?

These forums make it seem as if AS are of a different specious than people who happen to be Neurotypically "normal". I mean ASD isn't that noticeable to me. I've met NTs who I would describe as coming off aspie-ish or akward in their social skills.

Hell no one knew I had ASD until a couple of years ago and even when I mention to people as of being under the autism spectrum they can't believe it.... :?

That's not to say your theory is wrong Hector it's just that I don't see how it would be that obvious of someone until you got to know them real well. But even then you'd have to speculate if they didn't tell you already.

I've met people who probably didn't have AS who had some AS characteristics. At the same time though I've met a bunch of people who were diagnosed with AS and while in some of them the diagnosis was not really obvious to me, in others it was. That's not to say that they were all just like me, far from it, but all the "classic" traits would be there. I'd hazard a guess that most people I've met who were diagnosed with AS obviously struck me as having it, but the sample is still small enough and the majority not big enough for me to be too sure about that still holding in future.

But anyway I haven't really been talking about how "obvious" anyone's AS is or isn't, just the apparently significant correlations between being diagnosed with AS and being male, and being a woman diagnosed with AS and gay/bisexual, married at a young age, or asexual. In my argument I did make the possibly questionable assumption that what I've found represents women diagnosed with AS in general, but in any case there's a strong case for AS-diagnosed women being a minority. I also thought that if a guy is crazy enough to only look for women with AS, they may also be crazy enough to demand that such women have been diagnosed with AS just to be sure of it.



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15 Jan 2009, 4:02 pm

Well that makes sense as to why it would be a bit of a challenge for both members in the relationship since the classic case of autism is poor social skills /:


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15 Jan 2009, 4:08 pm

I guess some people with AS think that others with AS will understand them better, but I'd say that's quite naïve.



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15 Jan 2009, 4:16 pm

Yeah I never did understand that notion. I think it would be harder for both people with AS unless they were into similar interests or what have you....


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15 Jan 2009, 4:34 pm

It has been my experience that NT women expect you to act NT, even if they say they don't. It might take some time, but, as the true aspie comes out, they realize they can't handle your aspie qualities and that is usually the beginning of the end. Keep in mind that I did say "in my case", but, I know there are many with my same qualities and they would most likely agree.

I think that if one were to find an aspie woman with similar qualities and expectations(or lack of), there would be a greater chance of success in a relationship.


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15 Jan 2009, 5:01 pm

Another factor would be how severe one has AS.



15 Jan 2009, 6:17 pm

Hector wrote:
I guess some people with AS think that others with AS will understand them better, but I'd say that's quite naïve.



Agree. I used to think all aspies would accept me and not put me down for my problems because they would understand because they had been there too but no I was wrong. Some do put you down for your symptoms and say you are stupid just because you can't connect the dots or read between the lines and take things literal. They also get mad at you too about your obsessions and they can still bully you for any reason. Haven't I ever bullied? Of course. I do it to as*holes now and ignorant people.