Do Aspies have the same sexual drive as NTs?

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21 Jan 2009, 6:22 am

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Cause if its making love, you feel like you can get even closer to that person, its so intimate.


Yes that is true. You can get very close to a person that way and it's often when people fall in love.


And yet, for me (and other aces), sex and love don't seem to have any correlation - there are so many other sorts of closeness and ways of "making" love that have nothing to do with that. No one has ever been able to explain how body part + orifice = love. I understand it leading to physical stimulation, but I am lost at how it relates to feelings for another person in and of itself.


Sex releases Oxytocin (sp?) in the brain, which is the love chemical and is also released when breast feeding too.


For myself I have a high sex drive but I think that aspies are more put off by other peoples character than NTs (were more fusssy). I think the fact that we are quite open and honest means that how high or low our sex drive is, is perhaps more obvious than with NTs.



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21 Jan 2009, 6:32 am

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Sex releases Oxytocin (sp?) in the brain, which is the love chemical and is also released when breast feeding too.


Oxytocin comes from a Greek word meaning "quick birth". That probably explains peoples need/desire for sex.



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21 Jan 2009, 1:00 pm

BokeKaeru wrote:
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Cause if its making love, you feel like you can get even closer to that person, its so intimate.


Yes that is true. You can get very close to a person that way and it's often when people fall in love.


And yet, for me (and other aces), sex and love don't seem to have any correlation - there are so many other sorts of closeness and ways of "making" love that have nothing to do with that. No one has ever been able to explain how body part + orifice = love. I understand it leading to physical stimulation, but I am lost at how it relates to feelings for another person in and of itself.


Oh right. Yeah, I love doing other simple stuff too like cuddling and holding hands, sharing stuff together.



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21 Jan 2009, 2:18 pm

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it's the akward skills and anxieties that get in the way of it making it hard for me to be any relations that go to step 3.

:?:
Never had that problem myself. It's easy:
Step 1: Notice someone nice.
Step 2: Be noticed by said nice person.
Step 3: Witness nice person transform into a) dust cloud on the horizon, b) someone painfully polite, or c) someone seriously pissed off. Tick the appropriate box.

See? Piece of cake!



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21 Jan 2009, 2:26 pm

1. Notice someone nice...well I don't have problems there.

2. Be noticed? You mean in terms of letting them know how much you like them? That's a major case of an anxiety attack!

3. Darn I thought that was getting to the good part... :(


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21 Jan 2009, 3:11 pm

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2. Be noticed? You mean in terms of letting them know how much you like them?

No, no! It's enough if the nice person notices you as more than a background item, becomes aware of your existence. Here I mean the generic "you", meaning in this case I mean me. It may not apply to you. But I don't need to do more than that to proceed to step 3. Perhaps you need to practice some more to reach my exalted level of charisn'tma.

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3. Darn I thought that was getting to the good part... :(

How much better do you want? The dust cloud thing is quite fascinating. I am sure the acceleration violates some law of physics. Probably conservation of momentum. One moment they're there, the next they're on the horizon and still accelerating, all without throwing out any reaction mass in the opposite direction! If I can work out the secret of that, I'll make heaps of money lifting stuff into orbit and beyond. Oh, wait, there's someone nice. Another opportunity to study the effect. If I can remember the chat up line with the pun on the uncertainty principle, that ought to do the job. And then there's pickles. [wanders off, mumbling to himself]



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21 Jan 2009, 4:53 pm

Charisma...that makes a lot more sense. Well I don't want to take up this thread with my problems but I find it frustrating to express a certain persona or emotion externally to other people. I'll be damned if there's a cure for that. But yeah..I'd say besides someone looking good, people are mostly attracted to that certain persona one gives off.

As for the rest...ummm.... :?


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21 Jan 2009, 5:45 pm

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lol thats so funny!



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21 Jan 2009, 5:54 pm

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I'm asexual myself, though I've never met any other asexual Aspies other than on message boards like AVEN (the giant asexual forum) and here. All the others I've met in person have been the opposite, hypersexual, which has made it hard to relate in some ways.

I am trying to phrase this tactfully, but I'm not so happy about the "lacking a huge part of the human experience" bit in the original post. Perhaps it's just been the huge number of people I've met who describe asexuals in such unpleasant terms as "unnatural," "inhuman" or "not a real man/woman" that makes me annoyed at this. You might have not meant it that way, though it is written like not wanting sex = not wanting love and relationships. I can love, and I want companionship - I'd love to have people who I can talk with about anything from video games to philosophy (and maybe both at once) late into the night, who will care for and respect me and vice versa, who I can enjoy taking part in mutual hobbies with, and who will be with me forever. It's just putting something into a hole in my or the other person's body that seems completely irrelevant to love in my mind. Non-invasive physical affection like hand-holding and hugging figures into my idea of love, but the rest seems intrusive and unnecessary for my purposes. .


Sex releases biochemicals in the brain that act as endorphin heighteners and adrenaline stimulants. These chemicals are not created by holding hands or hugging. If they were, holding hands and hugging would be the most awesome thing ever, lol. This isn't to say that sex causes "love" in the romantic sense of the word. It's moreso of an extremely intense experience unlike any other. Unfortunately, describing the experience of sex to a virgin is somewhat difficult.

Many other things are like this as well, besides sex. For example, someone describing the experience of sky diving to someone who has never tried it will likely have a difficult time explaining exactly what it's like. You can't really get an actual feel of the
sensations involved simply from hearing it described to you in words.

As far as a guy's point of view goes - Sex just makes you feel a certain essential closeness to a female that can't really be obtained any other way, no matter how many substitutes people come up with. There's a basic, primal intensity and openness that is almost impossible to create through any other means. Unfortunately, the experience can be gradually lessened by cheap or meaningless sex that occurs simply for the sake of temporary physical gratification. As such, sex with a person you love will always be a million times better than a one-night stand or something similar, and sex without passion is pointless.

By no means am I saying that sex is the end-all, be-all of existence. Nor is it something which is essential for life and happiness. It's just a singularly intense experience which can't really be accurately described in written words.



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21 Jan 2009, 5:57 pm

I would say yes if not more because I'm like a volcano ready to explode. I have never had any sexual encounters in my life so I find myself getting erections so damn easily probably because I get nothing. If a girl says something nice to me, hell; I'd probably get an erection from that. It's probably because it rarely happens.



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21 Jan 2009, 7:54 pm

Mental sex is good , umh, umh That's why Aspies are more sexual sensual and appreciative of good loving.


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21 Jan 2009, 8:00 pm

I like sex but I can burn out easy.

I require some form of intellectual stimuli in order to have intercourse with any girl.

The only exception is when I drink, then loosing all inhibition I will usually tag the hottest girl I can find and see if we spark...

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21 Jan 2009, 9:03 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Charisma...that makes a lot more sense. Well I don't want to take up this thread with my problems but I find it frustrating to express a certain persona or emotion externally to other people. I'll be damned if there's a cure for that. But yeah..I'd say besides someone looking good, people are mostly attracted to that certain persona one gives off.

As for the rest...ummm.... :?


Yeah, and its girls who go for that persona a lot more. Its very decisive in whether they actually want your or not. Where as guys will most likely let a good looking girl off if she's acting strangely.



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21 Jan 2009, 9:08 pm

Yes it happens to me all the time. They love me all the same wether I act like a ret*d or not. :)



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21 Jan 2009, 9:11 pm

Zane wrote:
I require some form of intellectual stimuli in order to have intercourse with any girl.



This should be your pickup line:
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Hello, I would love to explore the realm of the life cycle of primate species over a cup of hot java...

You'll get all the women you want in minutes!

...no, not really... I can't back that up...



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21 Jan 2009, 10:03 pm

BellaDonna wrote:
Yes it happens to me all the time. They love me all the same wether I act like a ret*d or not. :)


lol exactly