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08 May 2009, 3:45 pm

Fudo wrote:
do you honestly believe women are unworthy of your time?

From a socialization standpoint? No.
From a love/dating standpoint? Yes.
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maybe it's good you're not interested

Yes, maybe.
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as i'm fairly certain most women wouldn't tolerate such an attitude..

And I don't care whether or not they do.
I don't owe the vast majority of people anything, and their opinions of me carry absolutely no significance whatsoever.


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08 May 2009, 4:02 pm

well that's all up to you.. i've always liked women, in short they rock! but i guess it's never that simple.
a healthy respect for women can't hurt tho.. i'm just trying to be a gentleman..
yes you don't "owe" anyone anything, but i mean that you are coming across as "bitter" towards women..
anyways if you really don't care what people think of you this is all quite irrelevant.



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08 May 2009, 4:50 pm

I respect women no less than I ever have (which is utmost) but as far as being in love goes, I don't want to hurt anymore. I know you take a risk of being hurt in love but all I've ever had was risk with absolutely no benefit. In other words, it's all been pain. What good is love if all it offers is pain? I've put up with it for over 10 years, I think that's long enough.


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08 May 2009, 4:55 pm

That's when you go get a little love from mary jane.



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08 May 2009, 5:03 pm

if love is nothing but pain, well yeah maybe it's no good, but my (very brief) experience of "love" or what i thought was love, wasn't all bad. By the end i was hurt, but mainly because all communication was cut off.
this was online so perhaps less meaningful, but i certainly had positive feelings, maybe not quite joy but i was happy to be sharing a "part of myself" with someone i think..
i'm no expert, or even a journeyman of love, so i can never "prove" love is good lol.. but it seems good to me.
peace&"love" :) sounds nice at least



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08 May 2009, 5:07 pm

MDD123 wrote:
That's when you go get a little love from mary jane.

mary jane's a nice girl but she doesn't talk much.. &generally when she does it can be terrifying :(
besides she's no match for a "natural woman" :)



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08 May 2009, 9:41 pm

I wouldn't know about the natural woman thing...... :shrug:

I have had experience with Mary Jane though. Not something I want to get back into either.


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08 May 2009, 10:35 pm

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Also, there is someone for everyone... you never know where you'll meet the right person for you :)


Mere words, repeated ad nauseam like an incantation that, by being repeated, will somehow become true, repeated like an axiomatic truth with no actual evidence for it. Sure, I guess in a world of billions, there are some women I could be soulmates with - but statistically my chances of meeting them at all are effectively zero, because they're so rare. If she's one in a million, there are 1300 just like her in China, but how many Chinese do you actually know? How many will you even meet in your lifetime?

Love? It is a luxury not for me. Most people are vapid, shallow and bore me to tears, and I am certainly no harsher or quicker in passing judgment on them than they are on me. It is unwise to rely on outliers.

I dream of finding a significant other, of starting a family, raising kids, etc. But these are just that, dreams. Harsh realities must be faced, and an obvious one is that women are, invariably, either repelled by me or at best interested just in friendship. There is no gain in deluding myself about this; it is an unpleasant fact, but one that must be faced. Most of them, I find them to be a waste of time even as acquaintances (as I also find of most men), and the few that actually interest me (and no, most of these do not look like models) wouldn't give me the time of the day, so why delude myself that I'll find someone? I'd like to find someone but you can get used to anything except not eating. Love is not food and drink. One does not get everything one wants out of life, and I'm gradually coming to terms with that romantic love and love for one's children are two things I will not get out of life. I can neither change the core of my being, nor can I change the world.


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09 May 2009, 12:00 am

Social_Fantom wrote:
I wouldn't know about the natural woman thing...... :shrug:

I have had experience with Mary Jane though. Not something I want to get back into either.


Mary Jane is slang for smoking weed right? Are you talking about that or something else?



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11 May 2009, 10:30 pm

I've had this same feeling. Romantic relationships, sexual ones.....I personally think that there's just too many barriers I'm being blocked by. I'm actually told I'm not that bad looking (I prefer not to judge myself on things like this, I take my friends word for it) and I'm amusing to be around.
Honestly though, if I DO have traits that make me attractive to the fairer sex, the communication difficulties involved are so absurdly vast that i can't get through them. I have a hard enough time figuring out GUYS, let alone a person of a gender I'm reasonably attracted to and understand the body language they have even less....
I actually do my best these days to not think about it in anything other then a minor biological way as in "oh, she's hot", and then get back to what I'm doing. If I don't think about it and keep my mind occupied with reading, writing, working, whatever, then eventually I'm, good.
It's rather unsatisfying when I DO think about it because I've got nothing to do, but so far I haven't thought of or been giving any other options or ideas beyond the usual unhelpful "someone out there" line.
Honestly, the more I heard it the more I just wanna punch someone in the mouth for saying such a goddamn cliche.



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11 May 2009, 10:36 pm

Kalashnikov wrote:
Social_Fantom wrote:
I wouldn't know about the natural woman thing...... :shrug:

I have had experience with Mary Jane though. Not something I want to get back into either.


Mary Jane is slang for smoking weed right? Are you talking about that or something else?



Yep, when I feel like I've hit rock bottom, I just turn my cell phone off and blaze up, I understand that's not everyone's thing but it works for me.



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11 May 2009, 10:37 pm

well Angel Maria - I'm 22, almost bold, never had a gf, and honestly, I am wondering if any girls like me, if I can meet one, if I can sustain a gf, and so on. Honestly, it's just so much stress. I wish I could just work 7 days a week and not have all these choices in life.


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