Video of me teaching Seduction to Aspies

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Tom
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05 May 2009, 2:28 am

Every man reading this will have seen these tactics put into practise successfully many times, so theres no point in the women lying and saying it won't work.

Every attractive women has met lots of clingy, sychophantic men paying them dull compliments. The world needs a guy who is more cinfident than that.

"Because you wouldn't want the girl to think that you actually liked her, or were interested, or anything. "

No because that is dull as ditchwater, people prefer a chase, they find that a lot more exciting at first. I don't know why women have to lie and say that flirting isn't how it is. Every time a man tells it like it is, the women all scold "no thats wrong" while the men all nod their heads in sad agreement.



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05 May 2009, 3:24 am

**LePetitPrince is trying to apply Tom's theory on one of the girls here**

**LPP adjusting his hair and boosting his chest**

**LePetitPrince is approaching MissC**

Hey babe, 8) interesting dress ....was it borrowed from some dead body? You remind me of the resident evil movie.

**MissC's cat is having goose bumps and hissing **

Hey what's wrong with your cat??! ! Nooo! Keep it away!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaah



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05 May 2009, 5:01 am

thank you to everyone who watched the vid and commented on it. Even the negative comments, If I'm wrong its the only way I'll learn. I really appreciate it all.



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05 May 2009, 7:30 am

Haliphron wrote:

You can be cocky and domineering without being overbearingly aggro. Ive never been to Ireland so honestly I havent a clue as to what Irish women are actually like.


Well, for starters, even the most humble, meek, and submissive of us tend to eat "cocky and domineering" males for breakfast..



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05 May 2009, 7:51 am

mechanima wrote:
Haliphron wrote:

You can be cocky and domineering without being overbearingly aggro. Ive never been to Ireland so honestly I havent a clue as to what Irish women are actually like.


Well, for starters, even the most humble, meek, and submissive of us tend to eat "cocky and domineering" males for breakfast..


damn it, I only get cereal for breakfast :x



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05 May 2009, 8:04 am

lotusblossom wrote:
damn it, I only get cereal for breakfast :x


Then you really must demand something more substantial...surely everybody has, at least a "boy racer" or two, readily available? Fry lightly in very hot oil, then devour. :D



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05 May 2009, 9:27 am

There's misconceptions abound on what the whole "cocky & confident" thing means.

It does NOT mean being a domineering jerk. Acting like that in a peaceful social situation is like storming a castle without walls.



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05 May 2009, 10:13 am

Tom wrote:
I don't know why women have to lie and say that flirting isn't how it is. Every time a man tells it like it is, the women all scold "no thats wrong" while the men all nod their heads in sad agreement.

Maybe it's because women don't like to be "figured out." I don't know... perhaps it's to their advantage to keep us in the dark about how to attract them. That way, they just have to keep rejecting any guys they don't like, while we're stuck with the "shotgun/spray and pray" method of asking women out because we're left with no other strategy. But at least we know that confidence works. I don't think it's a good idea to insult or try to "put women in their place" during Stage 1, though. I think it's more about not looking too "needy" or "clingy."

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Don't pretend to be someone you're not.

But it's NECESSARY for guys to pretend to be people they're not, if they want to get dates. The thing is, all guys have insecurities, but we have to hide them under a confidence act, because most women find insecurity to be a turn-off. I should know... I am VERY bad at looking confident. I'm a shy, quiet guy most of the time, and I've never had a girlfriend in my life. Most women who say they prefer shy/nice guys are probably lying.



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05 May 2009, 11:31 am

I want nothing-unusual and andy-falls to have a relationship based on genuine, sincere nice guy values, to prove me wrong. Then they can come back and describe their courtship and debunk all I said. Good luck guys.



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05 May 2009, 11:36 am

What? That's shocking.

Are you suggesting there might be a difference between what people say they want and what they choose?


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05 May 2009, 12:25 pm

CanyonWind wrote:
What? That's shocking.

Are you suggesting there might be a difference between what people say they want and what they choose?


Well, men know there is, but women won't admit it. Even at the expense of giving aspie guys good advice.

Would anyone like to see a more measured, serious sequel to the video.



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05 May 2009, 12:34 pm

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Would anyone like to see a more measured, serious sequel to the video.


I personally don't.



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05 May 2009, 12:50 pm

deadeyexx wrote:
There's misconceptions abound on what the whole "cocky & confident" thing means.

It does NOT mean being a domineering jerk. Acting like that in a peaceful social situation is like storming a castle without walls.


This gentleman KNOWS STUFF.



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05 May 2009, 12:51 pm

Tom wrote:
Would anyone like to see a more measured, serious sequel to the video.


Sure. Just support the theories with results & experiences. Field reports of how everything went over & played out.



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05 May 2009, 12:58 pm

an example of what you ask for is here .



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05 May 2009, 1:07 pm

Tom wrote:
CanyonWind wrote:
What? That's shocking.

Are you suggesting there might be a difference between what people say they want and what they choose?


Well, men know there is, but women won't admit it. Even at the expense of giving aspie guys good advice.


That's not true Tom...

Dead serious now...that domineering "Alpha thang" just makes me feel the guy is ignorant, and same goes for any other woman I have ever known...

Any successful seduction I have ever been the target of, BEGAN with something very like the "comfort" stage.

Tom wrote:
Would anyone like to see a more measured, serious sequel to the video.


I would...

...and to help you get it together, here is a story of real seduction, from my life, as I set it down on 2000:

*********

He left his seat and imposed himself opposite me, speaking with a broad and slurred inner city accent.

There are certain procedures you learn to ward off unwanted attentions without incident.

My chosen defense was to talk pleasantly as multisyllabically far over his head as I could. Usually they get bored and move on.

This man was different; he looked straight into my eyes and answered me in kind.

That interrupted my process of dissociation!

I fell into conversation with him; we were discussing a favorite book and author we had in common. It was Leon Uris in general and "Trinity" in particular, with a lot of focus on his remarkable ability to emotionalize sexuality.

His life story came out; he was from the inner city, 36 hours out of prison, a petty crook who made a fairly steady income from shoplifting. He used to do armed robberies (but then they all say that) and had stopped out of a personal determination to avoid the high risk of violence. He felt the risk of hurting someone was not necessary to making himself a reasonable living and thus not justified. When I came to know him better I can assure you that "not risking hurting people" had a very high and sincere priority with him.

What impressed me was the way he just explained his life, exactly as a salesman or a car mechanic would. No excuses, no justifications, no glamorization's, just "This is who I am. If you don't like it I'm sorry".

As I recall once that was out of the way, and I hadn't run, he assumed we could leave together.

That night in the back of my car a man just out from a 2 year prison sentence held me all night as innocently as if I were a child.

The next day he sat in a bar, and casually, without even looking at me directly, explained everything he had learned about himself in prison. As though it were an objective thing, he explained to me what he had to offer emotionally, and what he was looking for in a relationship.

He was so objective I honestly never suspected he was speaking in any other way than the abstract.

He was for real.

To be honest so genuine, so determined not to manipulate that when he turned to me 10 days later, after I asked him if something was bothering him, and snapped:

"For %$£&s sake, I'm in love with you aren't I?"

I got the shock of my life. I never suspected anything of the kind, he was wonderful company. If we were out anywhere he would sit with me making the kind of conversation that causes people to turn to their partners and say sharply:

"Why don't YOU ever talk to me like that?"

He was a fantastic lover. Quiet, gentle, he washed up voluntarily. He made dinner for me. He purged my refrigerator of all the way past "sell by" items I tend to accumulate, with looks of absolute disgust and a very firm lecture topic: "Foodpoisoning".

If he had a fault it was that he seemed sullen and distracted a lot of the time, which was actually WHY I had asked what was wrong.

I learned a very sad truth in the month we were together. There is a certain type of man and alcoholic who is at his very best in Prison and just after he leaves it. That kind of man's "best" can be truly extraordinary, and very real.

***************