Tom wrote:
CanyonWind wrote:
What? That's shocking.
Are you suggesting there might be a difference between what people say they want and what they choose?
Well, men know there is, but women won't admit it. Even at the expense of giving aspie guys good advice.
That's not true Tom...
Dead serious now...that domineering "Alpha thang" just makes me feel the guy is ignorant, and same goes for any other woman I have ever known...
Any successful seduction I have ever been the target of, BEGAN with something very like the "comfort" stage.
Tom wrote:
Would anyone like to see a more measured, serious sequel to the video.
I would...
...and to help you get it together, here is a story of real seduction, from my life, as I set it down on 2000:
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He left his seat and imposed himself opposite me, speaking with a broad and slurred inner city accent.
There are certain procedures you learn to ward off unwanted attentions without incident.
My chosen defense was to talk pleasantly as multisyllabically far over his head as I could. Usually they get bored and move on.
This man was different; he looked straight into my eyes and answered me in kind.
That interrupted my process of dissociation!
I fell into conversation with him; we were discussing a favorite book and author we had in common. It was Leon Uris in general and "Trinity" in particular, with a lot of focus on his remarkable ability to emotionalize sexuality.
His life story came out; he was from the inner city, 36 hours out of prison, a petty crook who made a fairly steady income from shoplifting. He used to do armed robberies (but then they all say that) and had stopped out of a personal determination to avoid the high risk of violence. He felt the risk of hurting someone was not necessary to making himself a reasonable living and thus not justified. When I came to know him better I can assure you that "not risking hurting people" had a very high and sincere priority with him.
What impressed me was the way he just explained his life, exactly as a salesman or a car mechanic would. No excuses, no justifications, no glamorization's, just "This is who I am. If you don't like it I'm sorry".
As I recall once that was out of the way, and I hadn't run, he assumed we could leave together.
That night in the back of my car a man just out from a 2 year prison sentence held me all night as innocently as if I were a child.
The next day he sat in a bar, and casually, without even looking at me directly, explained everything he had learned about himself in prison. As though it were an objective thing, he explained to me what he had to offer emotionally, and what he was looking for in a relationship.
He was so objective I honestly never suspected he was speaking in any other way than the abstract.
He was for real.
To be honest so genuine, so determined not to manipulate that when he turned to me 10 days later, after I asked him if something was bothering him, and snapped:
"For %$£&s sake, I'm in love with you aren't I?"
I got the shock of my life. I never suspected anything of the kind, he was wonderful company. If we were out anywhere he would sit with me making the kind of conversation that causes people to turn to their partners and say sharply:
"Why don't YOU ever talk to me like that?"
He was a fantastic lover. Quiet, gentle, he washed up voluntarily. He made dinner for me. He purged my refrigerator of all the way past "sell by" items I tend to accumulate, with looks of absolute disgust and a very firm lecture topic: "Foodpoisoning".
If he had a fault it was that he seemed sullen and distracted a lot of the time, which was actually WHY I had asked what was wrong.
I learned a very sad truth in the month we were together. There is a certain type of man and alcoholic who is at his very best in Prison and just after he leaves it. That kind of man's "best" can be truly extraordinary, and very real.
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