Why are some females so nasty?

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11 May 2009, 12:47 pm

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I was thinking just Europe in general... the only issue there is that there's a lot of Europeans that are openly anti-christian. While I respect that they have their own beliefs (even if I disagree with those beliefs), it doesn't make for good compatibility... I don't need someone with the same belief set as my own, but I do need someone who will let me pursue my own beliefs and not try to convert me to something else...
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Then you want someone from Latin America or Korea/China. Lots of Christians in Korea especially (and their immigrant populations here), some of the most devout, and I know several Chinese Christians as well. With Latin America, lots of Catholics, who should be compatible with you in some basic way (after all, same Jesus, right?), and they tend to be very loving and affectionate (Asians are a bit cold, like Northern Europeans).

Btw, I think you worry too much with the bee thing (I assume you are extremely allergic). Bees are clumsy and will run into you, but I've never been stung by one unprovoked. Even obnoxious Yellow Jackets won't sting you unless you literally grab them. Maybe put on some Repel?



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11 May 2009, 2:36 pm

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Then you want someone from Latin America or Korea/China. Lots of Christians in Korea especially (and their immigrant populations here), some of the most devout, and I know several Chinese Christians as well. With Latin America, lots of Catholics, who should be compatible with you in some basic way (after all, same Jesus, right?), and they tend to be very loving and affectionate (Asians are a bit cold, like Northern Europeans).

Unfortunately, as a protestant, I'm officially a heretic according to the Roman Catholic Church... Unless I were to convert (and, as I said, I want someone who won't try and convert me to Roman Catholicism), I would pretty much remain a heretic (in their eyes, anyway)...

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Btw, I think you worry too much with the bee thing (I assume you are extremely allergic). Bees are clumsy and will run into you, but I've never been stung by one unprovoked. Even obnoxious Yellow Jackets won't sting you unless you literally grab them. Maybe put on some Repel?

Actually, I get the Adam Savage reaction to bees... in that I freak out big time... It's actually come to define part of my life... I've since developed great night vision and an incredible tolerance to cold temperatures (in that I can safely go outside at night and in the winter) because of it...

I honestly don't know if I'm allergic... I've never been stung (owing to my rather phobic nature), and I've never needed penicillin, which is the other indicator of allergy to bee venom... My main problem with bees is not so much the sting itself, but the fact that it can come at you from any direction... I would be less afraid of a man coming at me with a knife coated in bee venom than an actual bee... Not to mention that if you kill a bee near its nest, that sets off the entire hive, especially with yellowjackets and africanized bees... thankfully, I don't live in an area with africanized bees, but there are yellowjackets...



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11 May 2009, 3:20 pm

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I have a nasty streak a mile wide and three miles long, and I don't like it. Thing is, I'm aware of it, and I have been since I can remember. It's difficult to fight at points, especially during certain times of the month, but I still recognize it.

With that insight, and all the women I've known, I'd say it's in-built and innate. Women have their own tier of hierarchy, for the most part, and they way it's handled is different than the way it is for men. We're 'underhanded,' I guess you could say, as opposed to the more visual, brutish displays in which men are more likely to partake. Quite simply, I'm sure it reflects biology, and the fact women have to be more careful in general, have less physical impact, yet remain as near the top as they can for resources. That's just the first thing that comes to mind.

Then, of course, there's the whole issue of having to be pickier about mates and the like. Now, I've not really witnessed what you described, but it would seem that women who want higher positions would pick on what they perceive to be the weakest males, of course all the while backed by their jocks or other higher ranking men. It's a way to diffuse their own hierarchical insecurities.

I have a hard time intuitively grasping hierarchies, and so I have noticed that, although I have the drive to be aggressive and underhandedly nasty, it comes out differently than it does for other women. I tend also to be more honest. But I remember going through this stuff at school, and it did occasionally seep in intuitively as well, probably thanks to otherwise intact social intuition. I learned quickly what it was all about just to keep my head above water.

All that aside, though, if you're outright insulting women, you're going to get it right back in your face. Whether or not the woman you called a 'camwhore' is or not, the word is still insulting and you're going to get a barrage of insults and defensiveness back at you. Can you really blame her? I would handle it differently myself, in a much more subtle manner, but when I get that from guys there's no doubt I have a negative reaction. You should probably try to understand this part of it, because you may be invoking the nastier side of women regardless due to your lack of understanding and resultant faux pas.


Us men just don't get it now do we? :roll:


Uh, sir, I wasn't insulting anyone. If you don't like it, deal. Or, if I read sarcasm where I shouldn't have, disregard this.

My guy friend is now in possession of a book called 'The Game'. By all appearances, no, a lot of guys don't get it. That's something that has pained me for quite a while now.

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ToadOfSteel wrote:
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in Wall-E, Eva picked that idiot garbage dreamy robot:

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In real life, Eva would pick:

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or this:
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again, it's an awesome movie nevertheless....


Hey, Eve's the closest thing to my personality I've seen in a cartoon character and I always go for the Wall·Es.



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11 May 2009, 4:05 pm

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hmmm....true :lol: or like Optimus Prime.

Let's just compromise and go with Bender or something...



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11 May 2009, 4:18 pm

Hmm...

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And I've just added a whole new level of WTF.

Goddamn it, I said I wouldn't hijack this thread, and I'm not going to help, either. STOP IT.



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11 May 2009, 4:32 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
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Then you want someone from Latin America or Korea/China. Lots of Christians in Korea especially (and their immigrant populations here), some of the most devout, and I know several Chinese Christians as well. With Latin America, lots of Catholics, who should be compatible with you in some basic way (after all, same Jesus, right?), and they tend to be very loving and affectionate (Asians are a bit cold, like Northern Europeans).

Unfortunately, as a protestant, I'm officially a heretic according to the Roman Catholic Church... Unless I were to convert (and, as I said, I want someone who won't try and convert me to Roman Catholicism), I would pretty much remain a heretic (in their eyes, anyway)...


Nah, not at all, a lot of Catholics in Latin American are religious but not that persecutory about other sects. It's probably more Catholics here in the US who are strict on that. Rest assured this isn't the 30 years War anymore.

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Btw, I think you worry too much with the bee thing (I assume you are extremely allergic). Bees are clumsy and will run into you, but I've never been stung by one unprovoked. Even obnoxious Yellow Jackets won't sting you unless you literally grab them. Maybe put on some Repel?

Actually, I get the Adam Savage reaction to bees... in that I freak out big time... It's actually come to define part of my life... I've since developed great night vision and an incredible tolerance to cold temperatures (in that I can safely go outside at night and in the winter) because of it...

I honestly don't know if I'm allergic... I've never been stung (owing to my rather phobic nature), and I've never needed penicillin, which is the other indicator of allergy to bee venom... My main problem with bees is not so much the sting itself, but the fact that it can come at you from any direction... I would be less afraid of a man coming at me with a knife coated in bee venom than an actual bee... Not to mention that if you kill a bee near its nest, that sets off the entire hive, especially with yellowjackets and africanized bees... thankfully, I don't live in an area with africanized bees, but there are yellowjackets...


That's something you gotta get over -- women don't like it when men run from bees and bugs ;) The outdoors is far too nice to give up because of some dinky bees. This may be a big reason why you are having a hard time -- most people like to do things outdoors. It's crippling your chances to do social things, and you're missing out on some of the finer things in life.



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11 May 2009, 4:40 pm

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My guy friend is now in possession of a book called 'The Game'. By all appearances, no, a lot of guys don't get it. That's something that has pained me for quite a while now.



The real lesson from the Game (besides that not having any is quite a normal and widespread male phenomenon) is that even these "experts," many of whom were borderline or straight out Aspie, based on some of their obsessing, once they figured out how to get laid continuously, were still unhappy. There was a core need for affection that wasn't being met, and they lost respect for women when they saw how easily they were manipulated (almost like dog training, which became a synonym for it later on). In the end, it really did come down to meeting just the right person, with the right personality, to make them happy.



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11 May 2009, 4:49 pm

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Nah, not at all, a lot of Catholics in Latin American are religious but not that persecutory about other sects. It's probably more Catholics here in the US who are strict on that. Rest assured this isn't the 30 years War anymore.

Well, like I said, as long as the other party and her family don't mind that I have my own religious beliefs and don't try to convert me to theirs, I can reciprocate...

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That's something you gotta get over -- women don't like it when men run from bees and bugs ;) The outdoors is far too nice to give up because of some dinky bees. This may be a big reason why you are having a hard time -- most people like to do things outdoors. It's crippling your chances to do social things, and you're missing out on some of the finer things in life.

Most other bugs aside from stinging insects I'm fine with... I've had spiders crawl across my monitor without even raising an eyebrow... I've been in areas with lots of flies and mosquitoes (annoying, but not something I fear)... it's really only bees, wasps, hornets, and yellowjackets...

Aside from that, I find the sun to be rather oppressive (though not enough of a reason to stay indoors)... I feel like I'm burning up when the sun is shining on me...

At night, though, it's completely different... I actually enjoy being outside at night (it's cooler too)... especially if there's a slight breeze and the temperature is in the low 60s...



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11 May 2009, 5:33 pm

billsmithglendale wrote:
That's something you gotta get over -- women don't like it when men run from bees and bugs ;)


Oh, but it's ok for girls to do it?

Bee stings hurt. Wasps can actually make visible holes in your skin. Spiders are (mostly) harmless.



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11 May 2009, 7:45 pm

billsmithglendale wrote:
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My guy friend is now in possession of a book called 'The Game'. By all appearances, no, a lot of guys don't get it. That's something that has pained me for quite a while now.



The real lesson from the Game (besides that not having any is quite a normal and widespread male phenomenon) is that even these "experts," many of whom were borderline or straight out Aspie, based on some of their obsessing, once they figured out how to get laid continuously, were still unhappy. There was a core need for affection that wasn't being met, and they lost respect for women when they saw how easily they were manipulated (almost like dog training, which became a synonym for it later on). In the end, it really did come down to meeting just the right person, with the right personality, to make them happy.


That's about what I'd imagine would be the case, so it's sort of refreshing. I'm probably not going to read it, but it looked interesting nonetheless.



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11 May 2009, 7:50 pm

meh, i dunno. something to do with personality probably. i have a sister like that but we all still like her



11 May 2009, 8:17 pm

I suppose I'm one of those females :lol:

I am cranky in the morning when I get up early because I have to for work. It's best to not talk to me when I wake up early, especially when I'm tired and I'm sleeping.

Also with my anxiety disorder, add stress to it, watch out. I snap and I am snarly, I'm scremaing, it's worse than other people when they are stressed. I can also get abusive so it's best to not bother me and not give me so much stress.

Also when I am very busy with something, very focused, I do not like to be bothered. I do not like to be interupted when I am in a middle of my video game or on the computer, etc. and kept from my time, I do not like to be called just because someone wanted to take a picture of me with my family for Mother's Day and bam they leave me waiting because they are slacking. I hate that, hate it hate it hate it. If people need me for something, don't leave me waiting, just do it or else don't bother me if you can't do it right after you call my name. :x I certinally am not nice when people do that to me. I hate slackers. :evil:

Imagine what I'm going to be like as a mother. I seem to be more patient with kids because I don't expect them to know and understand so I am expecting slacking in them and them not listening, etc while I expect all that from grown ups because they should know better. I get mad at my bf when he doesn't pick up after himself. I tell him I shouldn't have to nag him and treat him like a child. When he says I treat him like a kid, I tell him he is acting like it.



I've also heard my dad saying his wife is a b***h. She does get cranky when she is tired and when she has worked too hard. Also she doesn't like my dad's messes so she refuses to be up in the playroom where she put his office when it's a pigsty. She moved his office up there because she got sick of it spreading up to the main floor, so she moved it from the basement to the second floor and it mess stays up there in the room.



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11 May 2009, 9:13 pm

The only people who ever overtly bullied me as a child and a teenager were men. I've known girls to be mean to me, but it was usually a lot more subtle. Like ignoring me, telling me I wasn't allowed to hang out with them (when most other guys and girls were), and so on.

One thing that did make a difference for me was that as I got further into my teens and the guys who used to pester me stopped doing so, I found that I had a fairly good rapport with them at least face-to-face. Whereas girls became more awkward with me, some deciding that they disliked me (on the long-term) because of the way I looked at them or some silly thing I said. To this day I find it much easier to make friends with men, though women my age have caught up a bit.

In general, I always thought girls were supposed to be much nastier with other girls. I even see it on internet communities, some of the women only show their fangs with women they dislike.



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11 May 2009, 10:42 pm

Out of all types of people, "bitchy women" are the most dangerous. I've learned never to underestimate this type of person. Avoid them at all costs, and keep your guard around all females you meet until you can determine if they're this type or not. That's what I do. Aggressive bullying males have nothing on bitchy females.

Obviously, not all women are this type (just as not all men are aggressive bullies). And learning to spot and avoid dangerous types at all costs is just another part of life really.

P.S. When I say "bitchy women" I don't mean any woman who is occasionally bitchy (everyone can get bad moods at times, and women can be more moody simply due to genetics - more hormone changes, which you can't really blame the individual for), I mean the types that literally get pleasure out of manipulating people in nasty and hurtful ways and destroying the self esteem of those around them.


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11 May 2009, 11:10 pm

I know the type you're talking about.



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11 May 2009, 11:12 pm

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All that aside, though, if you're outright insulting women, you're going to get it right back in your face. Whether or not the woman you called a 'camwhore' is or not, the word is still insulting and you're going to get a barrage of insults and defensiveness back at you. Can you really blame her? I would handle it differently myself, in a much more subtle manner, but when I get that from guys there's no doubt I have a negative reaction. You should probably try to understand this part of it, because you may be invoking the nastier side of women regardless due to your lack of understanding and resultant faux pas.


Regardless, of whether they say anything mean to you first or not, there are certain nasty words you don't call women, unless you want to feel the wrath. :wink:

Anyways, women can be jealous, back-stabbing, bitchy, catty, moody, etc, etc. A lot of this is their crazy hormones, but some of it is because of their previous life experiences.