Online dating is pointless as a guy

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I like some variety in my L&D.

Can we please add religious debates, political debates, iPhone vs Android, debates about whether or not the moon landing was faked and Coke vs Pepsi.

I honestly can't tell if you are on my side or if you are mocking me sometimes.

I was just kidding. I'm a big fan of Mad Max.

If there’s 5 guys to everyone woman in dating sites then it is pointless to 4 of every 4 guys so it’s pointless for majority of guys.
I hardly ever message wpanymore. It’s a rare minority that I find s woman I’m Allowed to message. Better then sitting home some not trying.

I really just need to die. But antifia failed to start a bloody civil war. But there’s still North Korea and the China situation. Pulse every day I could be hit by a car and die. Hope it’s quick in painless. Of course I’d rather just find a gf and be happy. Doesn’t seem in the cards for me.

That's the competitive part. Those 4 guys are your competition.

The modern social medial landscape is hell for average and below-average looking guys and a godsend for good looking 7+/10 guys.

Every single woman now has an army of men well above her in looks waiting to court her, just a few clicks away.

- Obese women that are disability claimants can get healthy weight men with jobs.
- Plain but skinny/lean women can get model-looking men.
- Unattractive women get compliments left right and centre. Example: https://i.imgur.com/LjvdZcn.png

etc etc

Look at these men who claim their easy success on Tinder has turned them into feeling worthless because they felt like male prostitutes. They reminds me of some of guys I know from other forums. All Chads or handsome guys. They post the most misogynistic and edge lord stuff on their social media all the time. Things that would get most men attacked and destroyed by women. Yet women stay silent, and beg for their attention in the DMs. Because of that? They have absolutely zero respect for women but not only that. They realize their looks are the reason why women allow them to play them as well.

The issue is that those women's appearance & relationship standards are too high to the point where they're waiting specifically for a certain 0.01% guy to come across. Why do you think these women on Tinder, POF, okcupid, badoo are on there for so long? Anytime I made a new profile I'd come across a whole lot of the same women that were there 2, 3 years previously, each time. They chose to remain single. That's the problem today. A lot of guys just don't make the cut for what women's expectations are for a relationship -- or even one night stands -- anymore. It's why there's so many bitter men and women today. I just rather be single than to force myself to talk to some woman I'm not interested in and who's standards are far too unrealistic for what she has to offer. I'd rather spend time alone, or with family, than to be with a feminist. There is a snowflake generation without a doubt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

4, 5 years ago I probably could have got into a relationship with women I had no interest in (a chubby single mom that didn't even finish high school, never had a job in her life despite being 5 years older than me, infertile, a smoker and on welfare) who would even double text me & other **** who were highly interested. But the sad thing is I'd feel even worse being with someone I have no interest in than being single.

The older generation is also so different. They think we are a bunch of queers because we can't get women. They just don't realize how hard it is now to get women.

Like literally I remember growing up in the 1980's, to the late 1980's specifically, there was this guy on my street that was a milkman. Now, that job alone (delivering milk to peoples doorsteps) would make todays woman recoil in disgust for not showing "ambition", "poor" or "too working class" and the like. Yet that guy, who wasn't good looking just plain, had an attractive slim wife that worked as a receptionist at a local school. I saw many other pairing such as this as well. Such a pairing wouldn't happen today. It just wouldn't. The tide has changed and we're witnessing a massive silent extinction of men and a generation of "cat women".

I think that the main issue is how modern media idealizes relationships. People nowadays expect to see a spark on the first date. I mean, sure, fireworks are cool, but back in the old days a rose was enough.

Do you think you have respect for women? I’ve got some bad news for you...

I find that stuff vaguely interesting. I can not say the same for religion. Arguments about evolution have no place here.

But I can’t compete, seems dating is like the olympics only a few really good people get to go.

It’d pointless, no matter what 4/5 guys will remain single.for those 4 out of 5 guys it’s pointless. And they know who they are, unless yiur an attractive guy with his life together there no real point in trying to date online or in person. We just aren’t good enough for any woman. Most those women aren’t happy alone either, but I have no pity for them they do it to themselves. They don’t have to be single, there’s a surpluse of guys in my area, not a single woman here is has to be single if she doesn’t want to. They lie there is no shortage of men here.

I always brought a single pink rose to first dates.

That's actually really awesome and considerate! A pink rose (depending on the shade) usually means that you admire someone, which I think is quite appropriate considering it would be the first date.

That’s exactly what pink rose means and why I did it. I researched rose color meanings.

Good idea. I should try that.

You're right about the social media media landscape. I've seen several times in Facebook groups when an obese woman posts her picture, she'll get four or five hundred comments from sycophantic men saying "I like a woman with some meat on her bones" .

When I point out that having a BMI of 45 is unhealthy I get dozens of sycophantic replies pointing out the dangers of anorexia (getting below 45 BMI points is not anorexia).

It confuses me that these sycophantic guys say looks are unimportant than they insult my looks. I guess they really do think looks are important.

I completely agree with you 314pe, we live in a very fast world and results are expected instantly.

I would have a second date with a guy if there was not spark - I have done this a few times. I wanted to give them the chance to relax and see what the others dates brought to the fore. I wonder how many people lose out on a perfectly good match because they didn't go home floating on a cloud or get zapped by the love fairy.

There are many advantages to the old way of dating. I expect nothing other than conversation and time.