How can I tell my girlfriend she is fat?
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
magz wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Close your eyes, and imagine having sex with your ideal man while he's naked, what do you see? Are you totally asexual? Don't tell me that in your fantasy you see only a godly light and just a Personality - surely your fantasy man has a physical form in your mind.
So the visual aspect doesn't affect on you at all?
So the visual aspect doesn't affect on you at all?
Okay, did the exercise. I don't say I'm not interested in physicality but I'm not visual.
So I imagine the texture of his skin, tension of his muscles, his scent, his movements... it's all physical only not visual.
With the short stature you just miss - exactly 50% of my former boyfriends were under 5'5 and none of them did exceed 5'8.
You didn't turn on the light, did you?
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BTW, I have been in a situation in which I lost physical attraction to my partner. It was when he lost weight, made a workout and then his muscles started to look like some strange bulks and his veins started to be visible all over his body... ugh, I hate veins! He liked himself in a mirror but he became repulsive to me.
More details would be too private to share but we didn't break up.
On the other hand, you seem to be fixed on "women are X or Y" and totally ignore the fact that women are individuals, no less than men are.
More details would be too private to share but we didn't break up.
On the other hand, you seem to be fixed on "women are X or Y" and totally ignore the fact that women are individuals, no less than men are.
I don't really believe much in individualism especially when it comes to attraction and dating, and my past experiments and reinforce very strongly this belief.
Humans are almost clones genetically and aren't as individual as most people think - look at political parties followers for example.
If this whole short guy thing is a real problem then why is it a problem for some men and not others? I’m not sure Tom Cruise would have problems finding a date.... I still don’t believe it’s a real thing.
Can't disagree with that. Insanely rich and famous actors rarely have problems finding dates...
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Closet Genious wrote:
Cat23 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
magz wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Close your eyes, and imagine having sex with your ideal man while he's naked, what do you see? Are you totally asexual? Don't tell me that in your fantasy you see only a godly light and just a Personality - surely your fantasy man has a physical form in your mind.
So the visual aspect doesn't affect on you at all?
So the visual aspect doesn't affect on you at all?
Okay, did the exercise. I don't say I'm not interested in physicality but I'm not visual.
So I imagine the texture of his skin, tension of his muscles, his scent, his movements... it's all physical only not visual.
With the short stature you just miss - exactly 50% of my former boyfriends were under 5'5 and none of them did exceed 5'8.
You didn't turn on the light, did you?
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BTW, I have been in a situation in which I lost physical attraction to my partner. It was when he lost weight, made a workout and then his muscles started to look like some strange bulks and his veins started to be visible all over his body... ugh, I hate veins! He liked himself in a mirror but he became repulsive to me.
More details would be too private to share but we didn't break up.
On the other hand, you seem to be fixed on "women are X or Y" and totally ignore the fact that women are individuals, no less than men are.
More details would be too private to share but we didn't break up.
On the other hand, you seem to be fixed on "women are X or Y" and totally ignore the fact that women are individuals, no less than men are.
I don't really believe much in individualism especially when it comes to attraction and dating, and my past experiments and reinforce very strongly this belief.
Humans are almost clones genetically and aren't as individual as most people think - look at political parties followers for example.
If this whole short guy thing is a real problem then why is it a problem for some men and not others? I’m not sure Tom Cruise would have problems finding a date.... I still don’t believe it’s a real thing.
Can't disagree with that. Insanely rich and famous actors rarely have problems finding dates...
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I am sure even tall men would wish to be in his place - even by scarifying a lot of height.
I mean who would not love to have that:
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Outrider wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
If guys don't like fat girls and girls don't like short guys, does that make guys and girls even?
No.
For the majority of people one can potentially be changed with simply eating more controlled portion sizes, the other requires expensive high risk surgery with a high chance of leaving you permanently crippled.
That's what I thought. I thought weight could be changed by simply eating more controlled portion sizes. Real simple solution yet many people act like it's impossible. When I suggested it to my ex she started crying. I've heard people say that eating less calories causes weight gain (How?)
By tuning down the metabolism. Our organisms have evolved to have a chance to survive famine, not to look gorgeous after two weeks of diet. If the energy income suddenly drops below what the organism uses, the body switches on the famine mode and saves every calorie it can. This is why quick miracle diets have severe yoyo effect. And women are more prone to this.
Of course, eating healthy, balanced and with no more than 100-200 kcal daily deficit avoids this. But the effect exists.
I agree about the addiction thing. There is a person in my family who is severily obese, has diabetes and destroyed joints but can't stop devouring ice-cream every day. They says themself it's an addiction, nothing less, nothing more. Destroying their own health because the addiction is stronger than reason.
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Indeed, I mean how they even throw Tom Cruise as an example without even taking his wealth and fame into consideration.
Even looks wise, most short guys aren't as handsome as Tom Cruise.
But he became wealthy he was short before he was vastly wealthy surely? And he’s not that good looking... it’s his charisma
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Cat23 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Indeed, I mean how they even throw Tom Cruise as an example without even taking his wealth and fame into consideration.
Even looks wise, most short guys aren't as handsome as Tom Cruise.
But he became wealthy he was short before he was vastly wealthy surely? And he’s not that good looking... it’s his charisma
“He’a not that good looking”...
“He’a not that good looking”...
Okcupid is totally right when they say that women only find 20% of guys good looking; you don’t even find Tom Cruise good looking.
Seeking the Alpha instinct...
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Cat23 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
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Indeed, I mean how they even throw Tom Cruise as an example without even taking his wealth and fame into consideration.
Even looks wise, most short guys aren't as handsome as Tom Cruise.
But he became wealthy he was short before he was vastly wealthy surely? And he’s not that good looking... it’s his charisma
“He’a not that good looking”...
“He’a not that good looking”...
Okcupid is totally right when they say that women only find 20% of guys good looking; you don’t even find Tom Cruise good looking.
Seeking the Alpha instinct...
(He looks like my brother ok he looks enough like my brother that I don’t find him good looking asides from the height of course)
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Cat23 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Cat23 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
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Indeed, I mean how they even throw Tom Cruise as an example without even taking his wealth and fame into consideration.
Even looks wise, most short guys aren't as handsome as Tom Cruise.
But he became wealthy he was short before he was vastly wealthy surely? And he’s not that good looking... it’s his charisma
“He’a not that good looking”...
“He’a not that good looking”...
Okcupid is totally right when they say that women only find 20% of guys good looking; you don’t even find Tom Cruise good looking.
Seeking the Alpha instinct...
(He looks like my brother ok he looks enough like my brother that I don’t find him good looking asides from the height of course)
So which male celeb makes you horny the most?
magz wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Outrider wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
If guys don't like fat girls and girls don't like short guys, does that make guys and girls even?
No.
For the majority of people one can potentially be changed with simply eating more controlled portion sizes, the other requires expensive high risk surgery with a high chance of leaving you permanently crippled.
That's what I thought. I thought weight could be changed by simply eating more controlled portion sizes. Real simple solution yet many people act like it's impossible. When I suggested it to my ex she started crying. I've heard people say that eating less calories causes weight gain (How?)
By tuning down the metabolism. Our organisms have evolved to have a chance to survive famine, not to look gorgeous after two weeks of diet. If the energy income suddenly drops below what the organism uses, the body switches on the famine mode and saves every calorie it can. This is why quick miracle diets have severe yoyo effect. And women are more prone to this.
Of course, eating healthy, balanced and with no more than 100-200 kcal daily deficit avoids this. But the effect exists.
I agree about the addiction thing. There is a person in my family who is severily obese, has diabetes and destroyed joints but can't stop devouring ice-cream every day. They says themself it's an addiction, nothing less, nothing more. Destroying their own health because the addiction is stronger than reason.
Agreed.
Our ancestors did not always know when their next meal would be, giving us built-in survival mechanisms to eat as much food as we can possibly get our hands on.
Sugary and fatty are addicting because they are calorie dense foods.
Women have more estrogen which makes it easier for their body to store fat, which was important in ancient times to have spare fat reserves in case of times when food was short.
Also, modern society is full of junk food.
There is a lot of complicated psychology and physiology that goes into making junk food appealing.
For example many junk foods melt in your mouth quickly which tricks your body into thinking you ate less then you really did. Or many junk foods are given additives which means they might be hollow and unfulfilling due to lack of fibre.
Personally I am fit and healthy.
My story is I was overweight, then lost the weight through undereating and overexercise, which messed with my metabolism, hormones, strength levels, overall health.
I was very, very weak and bony. My insomnia was worse, I felt sick and tired all the time.
I have been lifting weights and eating healthy, nutritious diet for 8 months now but it has been very difficult for me to gain muscle or become stronger, I'm starting to suspect I have low testosterone as my body stores fat much easier than muscle even with intense training 5 days a week, adequate sleep and spectacular diet habits.
But I still managed to turn my health around and am on a better path now. So it's not impossible, just improbable.
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Cat23 wrote:
If this whole short guy thing is a real problem then why is it a problem for some men and not others? I’m not sure Tom Cruise would have problems finding a date.... I still don’t believe it’s a real thing.
No one says no short guy ever finds any girlfriend. That there are short guys who are considered attractive does not prove anything. You don't even need to be Tom Cruise. I met short guys in real life who were not famous and had absolutely no trouble getting a girlfriend. They have other attractive qualities that make up for being short.
Being short is a disadvantage for a man. If two men are otherwise equal and otherwise of average attractiveness but one is a bit above average in height and the other far below, the one above average in height will usually get more attention from women.
Height is one of many variables that determine a man's chance to get women. No one claims it's the only one.
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NorthWind wrote:
Cat23 wrote:
If this whole short guy thing is a real problem then why is it a problem for some men and not others? I’m not sure Tom Cruise would have problems finding a date.... I still don’t believe it’s a real thing.
No one says no short guy ever finds any girlfriend. That there are short guys who are considered attractive does not prove anything. You don't even need to be Tom Cruise. I met short guys in real life who were not famous and had absolutely no trouble getting a girlfriend. They have other attractive qualities that make up for being short.
Being short is a disadvantage for a man. If two men are otherwise equal and otherwise of average attractiveness but one is a bit above average in height and the other far below, the one above average in height will usually get more attention from women.
Height is one of many variables that determine a man's chance to get women. No one claims it's the only one.
A woman who cares for height would typically rejects a short man (especially if she’s shorter than her) without even making any further effort to know his other traits.
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I’m not tall though it seems. There’s 7’ guys. And apparently som people wear size 27 shoes, enough that they mass produce and sell them 0.o
Sly, you are losing touch with reality. 6"3 is tall everywhere.
That’s relative thoug. Here most guys seem to be 6’ at least. So 6’3” isn’t tall it’s average.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A woman who cares for height would typically rejects a short man (especially if she’s shorter than her) without even making any further effort to know his other traits.
True, but with traits I don't only mean personality. One of the guys shorter than me I met in real life was just so good looking and seemed so confident a lot of women there were obviously immediately attracted to him. For any trait, that's not immediately visible, to compensate for shortness they'd need to be in a situation where she naturally gets to know him without already dating him.
Of course being short is a big disadvantage for a man and of course some women would never date a short man no matter what. But being short is not unique in that it will cause some women to not date you no matter what your other traits are. Some women would never date someone very obese. Some women would never date anyone with an ugly face etc. Short is one of the most impossible traits to change about oneself, but the impact it has on chances to get a relationship doesn't seem qualitatively different to that of any other immediately obvious trait that's usually considered to be unattractive.
I'm not saying it doesn't have a (big) impact, nor that it can't be a deal-breaker for some women. Yet, it is not the only trait that influences any individual man's chances to get a relationship (if that was the claim the Tom Cruise example would be valid).
Fireblossom wrote:
Has anyone else noticed how all the guys in this topic have ignored my question? You know, this one here:
No answers of any kind... why's that? I'd except a reply from at least you, Boo, since I answered your question.
Fireblossom wrote:
And now I throw a question to the guys here: would you date a girl who is half taller than you? What if you had a girlfriend as tall as you who suddenly became half taller? Would you still stay with her?
No answers of any kind... why's that? I'd except a reply from at least you, Boo, since I answered your question.
Half as tall or half taller?
So she’s 3’ or is she 9’
Sucks for her either way I guess I bump into stuff but atleast I fit through doors. A 9’ person won’t fit in doors or most cars, and good luck finding beds,
Say a 7’ woman? I met one once. Yes I’d date a taller woman. They wouldn’t date me though who do 7+ feet women date or will they settle eventually?
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There's just alot of practical issues to consider. My bed is too short, my bathtub is too short, chairs are too small.. Also if she keeps bumping her head against the ceiling continuously over a long period of time, it might cause brain damage. I wouldn't want my girlfriend to suffer health issues by living with me.
You can take baths? I haven’t been able to fit in a bathtub since middle school.