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Would you date someone fatter than you?
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23 Jul 2010, 2:33 am

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^ So if this bothers you so much, why aren't you thin? It is a choice you know, despite what you may think.


And work out! You could be thin in 9 months, if you had the motivation and the self control.


thats the problem though, 9 months without cheesecake is pretty unbareble. I can do it for a few weeks and loose 7-14lbs but I cant keep it up, something always happens and I reach for the cake. Ive lost and gained the same 14lbs dozens of times! I feel very cross with myself as I often think if only I had stuck to 'not binging' 12 months ago, I would be thin now.

Cher says, "you have to choose between brownies and being slim, you cant have both" and she is right.

the hard bit is faceing a life with no cake, seems a very dark lonely world.



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23 Jul 2010, 2:39 am

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I don't get it. I remember hearing some guys talk about their dating standards and the phrase "If you can't lift her, don't date her." I've been struggling with my weight since I was 10. I've been dieting and exercising and I feel that all of my efforts have been for naught. I'm 5'4" and shy of 250 pounds. I feel like a tiny linebacker most of the time. D:

Women hit on me but I'm straight so it's awkward. If I was bi, I'd be happy with my lady fans. I'm also an aspie so I feel that in combination with my weight makes me completely undesirable. I sometimes feel that without resorting to liposuction that I'll never be good enough for guys my age. Guys never want me, they want my friends. :(

Guys complain about pretty skinny girls cheating on them but ignore the nice girls that would treat them better just because we don't meet their standards. I guess guys could say it about women too but I feel like women are more willing to settle with a quirky guy who may not be attractive (I see it all the time) than a man wanting to be with a fat chick. :/


Believe it or not, larger women were once seen by society as beautiful, because they were well nourished. As technology advanced, and food became far more available in developed countries, these attitudes changed.

Even today, there are men who are attracted to women who have a more curvy, rubenesque figure. :wink:



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23 Jul 2010, 7:48 am

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Believe it or not, larger women were once seen by society as beautiful, because they were well nourished. As technology advanced, and food became far more available in developed countries, these attitudes changed.

Even today, there are men who are attracted to women who have a more curvy, rubenesque figure. :wink:


Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Are they in my age group? Very unlikely. College-age boys are complete shallow pricks. I'd have to date an old-guy who will leave me widowed in my 40s. Then I'd have to start over.

@dtoxic - Exactly. This is why I hate the world right now. Looks are valued over what's inside. It's ridiculous. And I do take care of myself. It's just that nature granted me with a sh***y body that loves those fat molecules so much. Unless I resort to surgery, I'll never be what society deems as beautiful or "okay-looking."

Now I'm depressed again. s**t. :/



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23 Jul 2010, 8:16 am

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Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Gay men projecting a masculin body onto the female form

In a nut shell



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23 Jul 2010, 8:17 am

Women are meant to have curves.



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23 Jul 2010, 8:17 am

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Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Gay men projecting a masculin body onto the female form

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What? I'm not sure if I understand. Sure a few gay men work in the supermodel industry but I don't think it was their invention. >.>



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23 Jul 2010, 8:19 am

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Women are meant to have curves.


Thank you!

Granted, I still need to lose weight for my curves to be a bit more defined but that'll come with time. :D



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23 Jul 2010, 8:26 am

It's a shame that looks are all that matters, Im sure your a decent woman!
I don't understand; nothings wrong with heavier people. Something is wrong with people in magazines; its all made up, photoshopped.



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23 Jul 2010, 8:43 am

Erisad wrote:
Ambrose_Rotten wrote:
Believe it or not, larger women were once seen by society as beautiful, because they were well nourished. As technology advanced, and food became far more available in developed countries, these attitudes changed.

Even today, there are men who are attracted to women who have a more curvy, rubenesque figure. :wink:


Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Are they in my age group? Very unlikely. College-age boys are complete shallow pricks. I'd have to date an old-guy who will leave me widowed in my 40s. Then I'd have to start over.

@dtoxic - Exactly. This is why I hate the world right now. Looks are valued over what's inside. It's ridiculous. And I do take care of myself. It's just that nature granted me with a sh***y body that loves those fat molecules so much. Unless I resort to surgery, I'll never be what society deems as beautiful or "okay-looking."

Now I'm depressed again. sh**. :/


I'll admit that there are lots of guys in college who are total jerks.

I also know several guys at my campus who aren't. It's more a matter of knowing where to look. I'd hate to make a sweeping generalization of all college campuses, but I'm sure they're pretty similar.

One more thing: You may consider a lot of guys to be "Shallow Pricks," but I have a feeling that they're still treating you better than you treat yourself. What if someone else came up and told you that you have "a sh***y body that loves those fat molecules." It's a horrible thing to say.



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23 Jul 2010, 9:09 am

Erisad wrote:
Laz wrote:
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Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Gay men projecting a masculin body onto the female form

In a nut shell


What? I'm not sure if I understand. Sure a few gay men work in the supermodel industry but I don't think it was their invention. >.>


Look at what they wish a model to be. They do not desire a feminine shape. Without getting all seigman freud on the subject the whole fashion industry seems to be one great out of control gay fetish



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23 Jul 2010, 11:04 am

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^ So if this bothers you so much, why aren't you thin? It is a choice you know, despite what you may think.


If someone has chronic depression, would you say "Think happy thoughts. It's a choice you know. If it bothers you so much, why aren't you happy?"

And believe me. That is a good analogy, despite what Mona Vie peddlers may think.


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And work out! You could be thin in 9 months, if you had the motivation and the self control.


So, if trying to eat right and work out doesn't work for someone, you're basically telling them that they have no motivation or self-control.

Pardon my harsh tone, but I don't think these kinds of "pep-talks" are effective.



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23 Jul 2010, 11:50 am

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I'll admit that there are lots of guys in college who are total jerks.

I also know several guys at my campus who aren't. It's more a matter of knowing where to look. I'd hate to make a sweeping generalization of all college campuses, but I'm sure they're pretty similar.

One more thing: You may consider a lot of guys to be "Shallow Pricks," but I have a feeling that they're still treating you better than you treat yourself. What if someone else came up and told you that you have "a sh***y body that loves those fat molecules." It's a horrible thing to say.


I'm friends with a bunch of guys but they don't look at me the same way as the other girls in our group. I only presume it's either because of my disability or my weight. I know I treat myself terribly. I just don't know how to be positive about myself. I've hated myself since I gained this weight at the start of puberty. When that happened, everyone treated me different. No one wanted to talk to me. I was picked on all the time and knew that the reason was because I was a fat kid with social issues. How can I love myself when no one else even treats me like a person? :/

@Guitar_Girl - Well, there must be SOMETHING wrong with us. Otherwise we wouldn't be treated like we're not even human. It's like, not only am I an Aspie, but a fat one at that. It's a lot for a guy to look past. It's like I have nothing worth giving to them. There are plenty of decent women who look a hell of a lot better than me. :/



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23 Jul 2010, 12:02 pm

Laz wrote:
Erisad wrote:
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Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Gay men projecting a masculin body onto the female form

In a nut shell


What? I'm not sure if I understand. Sure a few gay men work in the supermodel industry but I don't think it was their invention. >.>


Look at what they wish a model to be. They do not desire a feminine shape. Without getting all seigman freud on the subject the whole fashion industry seems to be one great out of control gay fetish

I don't think it's that. I think it's that thin girls show off the outfits best. They basically work like coatracks. Fashion designers increasingly make their clothes for the fashion industry alone, ignoring the shape of real women, and gradually lose sight of how unusual the shapes they're seeing are.


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23 Jul 2010, 12:43 pm

KaiG wrote:
Laz wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Laz wrote:
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Yeah but then the supermodel was invented and screwed with everything. D:


Gay men projecting a masculin body onto the female form

In a nut shell


What? I'm not sure if I understand. Sure a few gay men work in the supermodel industry but I don't think it was their invention. >.>


Look at what they wish a model to be. They do not desire a feminine shape. Without getting all seigman freud on the subject the whole fashion industry seems to be one great out of control gay fetish

I don't think it's that. I think it's that thin girls show off the outfits best. They basically work like coatracks. Fashion designers increasingly make their clothes for the fashion industry alone, ignoring the shape of real women, and gradually lose sight of how unusual the shapes they're seeing are.


I agree with you, KaiG. The average American woman is size 14-16, not too chubby but not scrawny. Tis the size I'm aiming for in fact. ^_^ The average runway model is a size 2. What does that tell you? It's a sad state that our world is in. D:



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23 Jul 2010, 1:47 pm

The problem with fashion designers is, while they can draw clothes fine, they don't have the slightest ****ing clue how to draw people that aren't over 6 foot tall anorexics. It's pretty much expected that if you want to be a fashion designer, you have to have some kind of drawing dyslexia, where you are incapable of reproducing reality on paper. Not one of the fashion students at the art college I went to could draw an actual, life-like person, and it was hilarious listening to the life drawing lecturer grilling them at every opportunity about it.

I'd say Laz is onto something, although I'd refine it to be the repressed, latently gay men who are defining what is attractive. If you look at the whole environment adolescent boys are brought up in, there's a whole lot of conflict they have to contend with. Look at Beavis and Butthead for an example, and the kind of insults they throw around, or the common use of 'gay' as interchangable for stupid/lame. It's like the worst thing possible to an adolescent male, is to be gay. So what happens if they are actually gay? They throw those insults around louder than the rest, and express a heterosexual preference louder than the rest, just to make absolutely sure no-one might think they're gay.

And then the whole adolescent male culture ends up having a p***ing contest to see who can have the most restrictive, perfectionist idea of what an attractive woman is, when the loudest part of that group, doesn't even find women attractive.


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23 Jul 2010, 3:58 pm

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How can I love myself when no one else even treats me like a person? :/

How can anyone treat you as a person if you don't love yourself?

It's a tough loop to be stuck in. I've been there. A very close friend helped me crawl out of it.
It would be highly arrogant of me to think that I could single-handedly raise your self-esteem. Especially due to the fact that I'm probably no more than the little red picture of a guy with a tuba to the left of this box.

Regardless of my own insignificance, I'm still treating you like a human being because, well, you deserve it.