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04 Oct 2010, 5:15 pm

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Ah, okay. I'm not sure how I'd feel about having one though. If my family arranged a marriage for me, I'd be stuck with an uptight bible thumper and I would be miserable. It'd be like being married to my mom, minus the lesbian incest. D:


Again, it would depend on the culture and country. In India, family members will take out personal ads for it. They list attributes that mesh, and only those that are compatible answer. There is no "sweet, honest, makes me laugh..." and so on. It's "is good with numbers, wants to live in the sticks, knows how to relate to others, wants children..."

Of course, since your mom was raised in westernized society, these are not the things she would be looking for in a husband for you. So yeah...


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04 Oct 2010, 5:16 pm

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Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


There are a lot of reasons for the divorce rate in America. Idealized romance and a misunderstanding of what love is are two big ones.


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04 Oct 2010, 5:18 pm

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Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


There are a lot of reasons for the divorce rate in America. Idealized romance and a misunderstanding of what love is are two big ones.


Very true. One of the many many rezones why I believe I would have a much easier time in another country. At the risk of sounding like a 9/11 terrorist; I HATE living in America



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04 Oct 2010, 5:20 pm

nick007 wrote:
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Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


lol are men never at fault for a divorce?



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04 Oct 2010, 5:22 pm

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Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


lol are men never at fault for a divorce?


We weren't talking about men. lol


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04 Oct 2010, 5:23 pm

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Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


There are a lot of reasons for the divorce rate in America. Idealized romance and a misunderstanding of what love is are two big ones.


Very true. One of the many many rezones why I believe I would have a much easier time in another country. At the risk of sounding like a 9/11 terrorist; I HATE living in America


*shrug* Everyone has their preferences.


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04 Oct 2010, 5:23 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


lol are men never at fault for a divorce?


Good point. Lots of men get divorced because they want a younger hotter woman. I believe in taking marriage seriously & doing everything you can to make it work but people think that makes me clingy, needy or codependent or something



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04 Oct 2010, 5:28 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Women are under a lot of pressure in the western world to marry, too. We just have to do it all ourselves, and end up failing more often than not. Hence, the 50% divorce rate.


I thought that was because the women wanted the guys money or the women don't take the relationship seriously


lol are men never at fault for a divorce?


Good point. Lots of men get divorced because they want a younger hotter woman. I believe in taking marriage seriously & doing everything you can to make it work but people think that makes me clingy, needy or codependent or something


I honestly don't know where you find these women, but I don't think its the right place :/



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04 Oct 2010, 5:30 pm

I agree. I think a lot of the problems with dating I see on this site can be summed up with one little sentence... 'Looking for love in all the wrong places."


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04 Oct 2010, 5:34 pm

I think the main reason of the high divorce rate in the western countries, which many wouldn't admit that, is that women have regained their natural choice in choosing the mate and for how long they would stay with him.

Women's liberation is probably the reason#1

Females are wired to constantly seek for better males ....and are also wired to not stay with a loser and.

Most divorces are Initiated by women in those countries.

This doesn't mean that "love" and "marriages" were happier and pinkier in the old days, they weren't at all ...but many women were obliged to stay prisoners in abusive marriages because of social pressures and stigmas back then.

So the increase of divorce rate isn't always bad.



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04 Oct 2010, 5:37 pm

That's a load of crap, Boo. Women are generally the ones that want to settle down, while men are hard wired to spread their seed where they can.


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04 Oct 2010, 5:45 pm

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Lol, but I like Pennsylvania. I would move to a different city in PA because I like the people there better than back home. Obviously, it isn't exotic enough since it's a college town and most of the students are from another part of PA or NJ. :D


Hey i'm from NJ, you're saying i'm not exotic enough huh?



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04 Oct 2010, 5:54 pm

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As I said before; I think Aspies would stand a much better chance if we had arranged marriages. That goes on in some other countries. If I could easily move to another country; I would go to one that has em. The only way I could ever get a woman is if she was pressured into it. American women will never give me a chance unless they are on something :cry:


You know, nick, my father was as screwed up as any of the male Aspies here and he was all happy when some pastor found him a wife. Unfortunately for him, having a semi-normal wife only added 101 more problems he wasn't able to handle and he quickly lost my mother's respect. She didn't divorce him because she's Catholic and because she's too proud to officially have a failed marriage, but she's barely talked to him in the last twenty years. And you know who else barely talk to him? All of his kids, who find it equally hard to give the respect he expects as a father.

Nowadays he just sits there watching out the window waiting for the death that never comes. I'll bet if he could have a do-over, he'd rather stay single and be considered the weird single man no woman wants to marry than to jump into marriage with the first woman who was pressured into meeting him.



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04 Oct 2010, 5:58 pm

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Nowadays he just sits there watching out the window waiting for the death that never comes.


That's what I feel like now... and I don't even have the failed marriage to blame for it. Some men are just defective. It doesn't have anything to do with AS/NT lines, but I am unfortunately one of those men that just can't make it in life...



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04 Oct 2010, 6:14 pm

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As I said before; I think Aspies would stand a much better chance if we had arranged marriages. That goes on in some other countries. If I could easily move to another country; I would go to one that has em. The only way I could ever get a woman is if she was pressured into it. American women will never give me a chance unless they are on something :cry:


You know, nick, my father was as screwed up as any of the male Aspies here and he was all happy when some pastor found him a wife. Unfortunately for him, having a semi-normal wife only added 101 more problems he wasn't able to handle and he quickly lost my mother's respect. She didn't divorce him because she's Catholic and because she's too proud to officially have a failed marriage, but she's barely talked to him in the last twenty years. And you know who else barely talk to him? All of his kids, who find it equally hard to give the respect he expects as a father.

Nowadays he just sits there watching out the window waiting for the death that never comes. I'll bet if he could have a do-over, he'd rather stay single and be considered the weird single man no woman wants to marry than to jump into marriage with the first woman who was pressured into meeting him.


We really can't compare your father to any of the men here. Circumstances and personalities are different.

However, I agree in a way with what you're saying. It's no picnic to have someone pressured into being with you. It's not a life most people really want, even if they think they do. I'm pretty sure nick and Toad want a woman that wants to be with them more than anything. We all want that.


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04 Oct 2010, 7:33 pm

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menintights wrote:
Nowadays he just sits there watching out the window waiting for the death that never comes.


That's what I feel like now... and I don't even have the failed marriage to blame for it. Some men are just defective. It doesn't have anything to do with AS/NT lines, but I am unfortunately one of those men that just can't make it in life...


Same here Toad.


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As I said before; I think Aspies would stand a much better chance if we had arranged marriages. That goes on in some other countries. If I could easily move to another country; I would go to one that has em. The only way I could ever get a woman is if she was pressured into it. American women will never give me a chance unless they are on something :cry:


You know, nick, my father was as screwed up as any of the male Aspies here and he was all happy when some pastor found him a wife. Unfortunately for him, having a semi-normal wife only added 101 more problems he wasn't able to handle and he quickly lost my mother's respect. She didn't divorce him because she's Catholic and because she's too proud to officially have a failed marriage, but she's barely talked to him in the last twenty years. And you know who else barely talk to him? All of his kids, who find it equally hard to give the respect he expects as a father.

Nowadays he just sits there watching out the window waiting for the death that never comes. I'll bet if he could have a do-over, he'd rather stay single and be considered the weird single man no woman wants to marry than to jump into marriage with the first woman who was pressured into meeting him.


We really can't compare your father to any of the men here. Circumstances and personalities are different.

However, I agree in a way with what you're saying. It's no picnic to have someone pressured into being with you. It's not a life most people really want, even if they think they do. I'm pretty sure nick and Toad want a woman that wants to be with them more than anything. We all want that.


I think it's possible that after a woman's with me a while; she would be glad she's with me Women write me off as a worthless loser without ever taking the chance to get to see what's inside my heart. If women saw my soul instead of seeing all the superficial cr@p; I would be very desirable. Despite what others say; the reality is that it's what's on the outside that matters & what's in the heart is completely worthless



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