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You have already stated you have never had a conversation with her. So you can't know anything of her or what she thinks. You only know what is in your own mind.

It's delusional.

Just like belief in direct mind-to-mind communication (e.g., "telepathy").

I think people here need to become a bit more logical.

There is a need to either accept or reject the spiritual dimension. If somebody rejects the mind-to-mind communication or the direction sense, then it makes absolutely no sense to start to talk about stalking. Then it must simply be a fantasy in my brain, and so the woman is not where I assume she is, and there can be no stalking. Anything else is just completely illogical.

Now you are even more illogical. Why do you think it is necessary to have a conversation with somebody to know them? If somebody writes about themselves, on Facebook or some other place, then people reading that will know those things about the person, even if they didn't acquire the knowledge by conversation. That's pretty elementary.

Not to criticize RDO, and not to say that people can't get to "know" somebody through writing (I actually have excellent friends whom I haven't met in person), but I believe face-to-face contact is an important way to "really" get to know somebody.

QED:
a. Belief in the "Spiritual Dimension" is delusional.
b. Mind-to-mind communication is attributed to the "Spiritual Dimension"
: : Belief in mind-to-mind communication is delusional

"Stalking" is willful, malicious, and repeated following and harassment. "Harassment" is defined as the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group toward another, including threats and demands.

Nowhere in these legal definitions is there any mention of "mind-to-mind communication" or "direction sense".

Once again, you have made up subjective definitions and falsely asserted that these ideations in your own mind are valid representations of reality when they are most certainly not.

Seek help.

Soon.

A few comments about sensing people (all are neurodiverse, and most are girls):

Just shows that this is not just me, rather other NDs have these experiences too, but they don't post about them here.

That's precisely what I meant by it not being clear what is going on. Your online communication with her is described very vaguely and it is not clear how (besides you sensing it) you would know that all her accounts are actually by one and the same person or how color code, like system or whichever facebook bugs you think you utilize are true communication and not just you seeing a pattern where there is none.
If one sees the lack of evidence that the online interaction is real and doesn't believe in mind-to-mind communication one possible conclusion is that you are obsessing about her, you are following her around and you imagine she is following you around too and you imagine she's interested in you too -> stalking.

But it is also becoming more and more clear that you may not get close enough to her in person to actually see her and you might often only 'know' you're following her or she's following you because you sense her presence in which case this would more be the conclusion at which one arrives:



But I do not think the reason why stalking is brought up is a lack of people being logical but it's because it's not completely obvious how often you really follow her (close enough to see her) or just walk somewhere and sense she's there but you do not see her(no real life evidence she's actually there).
If you'd actually follow her and know you're following her for another reason than because you can sense it, it'd still be stalking and it'd still be possible without mind-to-mind connection simply by knowing her habits and which places she frequents often enough. But it seems more like you only think she's nearby because you can sense it, which means there's no evidence that she is.

You don't need to educate me about the faulty delusion concept. I know it very well, and it is all rubbish. At least all the tests I've seen that attempts to measure it is complete rubbish since these traits relate to neurodiversity.



But you need to believe in the spiritual dimension of things for it to be potential stalking. You cannot stalk something that doesn't exist. So, which is it?



Are you a mind-reader? How else could you know that my ideations are false?



The only thing I aim to do is to shoot down the whole concept of psychosis and delusions. It's just another way to pathologize neurodiversity.

I believe psychosis does exist---but I also believe some of what is seen as being "psychosis" is actually creativity.

I believe, if one is able to maintain one's living, and is able to control his/her self over the course of at least several years, that a person who seems "psychotic" should not be actively "treated."

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False premise. Here's a true one:

QED:
a. The "Spiritual Dimension" does not exist".
b. "Stalking" exists.
: : "Stalking" does not require a "Spiritual Dimension".

Because (1) you post them, and (2) they are self-contradictory, and (3) they have been shown to be false. No "mind-reading" is needed, only logic.You have not the requisite ability for doing the impossible.

Some NDs simply are too binary. You cannot understand this with binary thinking. It's all about probabilities.

At the moment, we are out about an hour each morning, and then usually a little longer in the evening. We use a few different paths, and sometimes I propose a path I want to take, and sometimes I let her decide by her initial position. The distance differs. Sometimes she will hide close to where I will pass, and then we might be quite close. Sometimes I will even decide to stay for a while at those places.

Everyone here knows that you are not the only one in the whole world who believes in mind-to-mind communication, spiritual connections or sensing where someone else is or how someone else feels.

But self-reporting is no good evidence for it's existence. People can have biases, selective memory, psychosis (even if you don't think it exists and even if the mild cases wouldn't be diagnosed as having a psychosis), feelings of connection that are a product of their brain etc.


Her son is not equally likely to come home or be in the house at all times and she may not always check if her feeling is correct. If people are in the same room as you it is often possible to sense them with your actual senses that are proven to exist, in the same house not always but still often enough. Is she deaf and blind or why would she not be able to perceive any sounds he makes etc. Many people don't need to get something right 100% of times to claim absolute certainty.
No one tested, if she can do this better than other people who use their proven to exist senses and their knowledge of another persons schedules and habits (it can be fairly accurate too no supernatural powers needed)


Yeah, so what. People typically don't move completely soundlessly. I usually know when someone is in the same room as me too. Again, if this person fails on rare occasion he'll probably still believe that he can sense these things by some supernatural power (if he does this post doesn't make it absolutely clear).


Alright, no context no anything, whatever this person means by 'sense'.


Maybe the husband comes home from work at a specific time? Maybe the elevator is audible shortly before it opens in addition to the husband not coming at random. Maybe if she got it wrong she won't think she in fact doesn't have supernatural powers but will ascribe it to her having been distracted.


When I was little me and my brother would sometimes say the exact same thing at the exact same time. Mental connection? No, same sense of humor - saying the exact same thing at the exact same time was always in response to something someone else said first and our reply was always humorous.
When I was little I'd also sometimes finish his sentences (which in retrospective may not have been the correct thing to do). I do not know if I finished them correctly, but he sometimes stopped mid-sentence and wouldn't continue talking for 30 seconds, or a minute or maybe even longer and when I felt the silence was getting awkward and I had a guess how the sentence would go on I said it. The guess could be correct - because I knew things about him that the asking person may not - but the guess could also be wrong.

I agree on that one. If a condition doesn't cause suffering, the person is able to live their life and their condition doesn't make them a danger to others, no treatment is needed.

Nobody has proved that spirituality or mind-to-mind communication is impossible. In fact, this is not even possible to prove. The only thing that is possible to prove is that mind-to-mind communication works. Negatives can never be proved. Therefore, your logic fails completely, so go back to the beginning and do it right.

Rather like religion.....pretty much a matter of "faith."