Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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Myself and the other mods have come to the conclusion that we will not be hosting "incel speak" or any promotion of "incel ideology" on this website. Talking about "Staceys" and "Chads" is incel crap.

Going forward, anyone putting forth incel philosophy or terminology will dealt with accordingly.

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He probably isn't even a bad looking guy, he has just told himself that so many times because he had so little success he now believes it wholeheartedly, then he visits a forum that only serves to reinforce these narrow minded ideas. He won't acknowledge that for many women what someone looks like takes a backseat to the attractiveness of who the person is. A woman can have supermodel looks, but if she is an ugly inside it doesn't matter how good looking she is outside because she is no longer attractive to me. A woman can have below average looks, but if she is stunningly beautiful inside she now becomes super attractive, so why can't that be the same for a woman?

Confidence is another big factor and for shy guys like us it is a huge hurdle to overcome when you have low self esteem and your self confidence is nearly nonexistent, it is only magnified when there is a cultural obstacle that often a man must approach the woman. Looks don't help much when women approach you and you still have a hard time showing them you are worth their time.

^^

The problem with confidence is that it does not come out of nowhere. It is something that grows as people inccur successes. So it's outright impossible to someone to have confidence when the only thing they've ever experienced is failure.

So lonely men can’t talk about their issues here anymore?
Cause from what I gather there’s no defined incel ideology and it’s very similar if not the same as lonely men express their being lonely and struggles. So I’m not sure how such a undefined thing can be enforced who decides what’s incel ideology or not and will it be explained with examples?

I’d get not allowing violent talk towards women which isn’t currently allowed. I find this concerning. I suggest any lonely aspie men just stop posting until it’s more specifically defined and not so broad.

Mean is talking about how women reject you for not making enough incel? Or about being rejected for look? Social status?

I don't see you as an "incel" type, Sly.

I think what these poor fools are missing is self-actualization. People may speculate all the time that someone is unsatisfied or unsatisfactory. We're all usually wrong about that. Sure, I could run around on Tinder making a confusing mess of my social life (even more so than I already might have) or I can stand by while my closest female friends get that nonsense out of their systems because I recognize that I'm more interested in actually knowing someone than anything else. Being at peace with whatever's going on is enough for me. I don't really care at all who sleeps with whom & so on because that clearly interfered with my ability to care for others as people. I would rather spend tons of time building the ability to meaningfully communicate than to impatiently try to arrange my life according to the principles of some internet companies.

We've had a lot of threads lately about who's unattractive (it was me), who's victimized (this thread) & all kinds of other negatives but what's good?? Let's make more threads about that, please?

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That depends on what you consider incel
Ideology which could go as far as any negativity towards women.
Which would cover any single men where who’ve had issues with dating.
It’s a very broad and undefined term
What’s feminism ideology? No one can agree what it is so say we say no feminism ideology what’s that cover? Just radical feminist or is it including people wanting equality?
That’s the problem with using broad terms.
I doubt most of us would agree in what’s incel ideology, some here certainly would include complaining about women, lack of sex and lack of relationships is it those people who will decide cause then certainly Im pet of the ideology as I complain about that stuff. So do incel women here but I’m guessing they be left alone as no one has issue with women complaining about relationships and men.

I mean what is incel ideology?
Apparently Stacy and chad were part of but I thought they were randomly chosen names, who here knew that it was part of incel
Ideology?
What is incel ideology to everyone?

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You can get chicks, Sly.

Not me. My love life is the grandest trainwreck you could possibly imagine but am I unappreciative of the women in it? You bet your a$$ I'm not. I probably would not be alive if not for my friends so if they need a year off from my BS every now & again, more power to them!

The "Incels" on their website have a specific ideology.

You don't want to get involved in that.

They're trying to recruit & groom terrorists vis a vis making them uncomfortable with themselves.

One can't fight bigotry with more bigotry, that much is obvious when you talk to any affiliated voter.

Nope. I don’t have what most women require. It’s hopeless for me, doesn’t mean I’m going go out and kill bunch of people.
Most will suffer as is so meh. Quite a few lonely women in my ears sad and depressed cause they are alone and can’t have relationships cause there’s no real men.karma. They do get as much sex as they want though.
I don’t think there’s much need for violence in general and if everyone felt similar then defenseive violence wouldn’t be needed either. I’ve never been in a fight. I’ve never actively hurt anything. Hunting disgusts me
I feel haunted by the few bugs I’ve killed like that poor cricket two years ago
Do crickets go to heaven?

They are banning it without defining it so they could say I meet their undefined requirements and poof I’m gone.
No one knows what’s incel ideology here so how can you ban it? I can only think of one person here who’s been to their sites and I certainly wouldn’t want her deciding who’s guilty if it or not.

Censorship always sucks, how can you ever change hearts and minds if you can't even speak to someone on their level? These people didn't always have extreme idea's, they gradually became that way over time. Being able to hold a reasonable debate is key if they are ever to see reason. All they have are places that make them more radical.

Well by this point, 'their level' is more or less moot, considering that they've abstracted reality beyond facts. I'm not sure there's any leveling with people who derive their identity from literal interpretations of tasteless irony, it's the same reason why governments don't negotiate with jihadists, they're taking their ideology out of context too. As a result of these abstractions there is no basis in reality, facts or material resources to refute what they believe because there is no substantial basis whatsoever.

^All of whom are just extremely sexist btw.