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25 Sep 2018, 10:08 am

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Rather like religion.....pretty much a matter of "faith."


There certainly is that dimension too. There is also a lot of rubbish in the area, but that still doesn't disprove the possibility that some of it is authentic and actually works.



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25 Sep 2018, 10:12 am

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I thought you read the thread? How could you miss that it is mostly her that follows me around? Selective reading?

That's precisely what I meant by it not being clear what is going on. Your online communication with her is described very vaguely and it is not clear how (besides you sensing it) you would know that all her accounts are actually by one and the same person or how color code, like system or whichever facebook bugs you think you utilize are true communication and not just you seeing a pattern where there is none.
If one sees the lack of evidence that the online interaction is real and doesn't believe in mind-to-mind communication one possible conclusion is that you are obsessing about her, you are following her around and you imagine she is following you around too and you imagine she's interested in you too -> stalking.

But it is also becoming more and more clear that you may not get close enough to her in person to actually see her and you might often only 'know' you're following her or she's following you because you sense her presence in which case this would more be the conclusion at which one arrives:

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I think people here need to become a bit more logical.

There is a need to either accept or reject the spiritual dimension. If somebody rejects the mind-to-mind communication or the direction sense, then it makes absolutely no sense to start to talk about stalking. Then it must simply be a fantasy in my brain, and so the woman is not where I assume she is, and there can be no stalking. Anything else is just completely illogical.


But I do not think the reason why stalking is brought up is a lack of people being logical but it's because it's not completely obvious how often you really follow her (close enough to see her) or just walk somewhere and sense she's there but you do not see her(no real life evidence she's actually there).
If you'd actually follow her and know you're following her for another reason than because you can sense it, it'd still be stalking and it'd still be possible without mind-to-mind connection simply by knowing her habits and which places she frequents often enough. But it seems more like you only think she's nearby because you can sense it, which means there's no evidence that she is.


:lol: :lol:

Some NDs simply are too binary. You cannot understand this with binary thinking. It's all about probabilities.

At the moment, we are out about an hour each morning, and then usually a little longer in the evening. We use a few different paths, and sometimes I propose a path I want to take, and sometimes I let her decide by her initial position. The distance differs. Sometimes she will hide close to where I will pass, and then we might be quite close. Sometimes I will even decide to stay for a while at those places.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I said. I've seen hints in your previous posts that you 'know' you're near her because you sense it. I'd interpret this post the same way, but I can't be absolutely certain.

I'd hope that this:
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But you need to believe in the spiritual dimension of things for it to be potential stalking. You cannot stalk something that doesn't exist. So, which is it?

confirms that, without the existence of the spiritual dimension your interactions with her and you following her around would automatically be nonexistent.

The nonexistence of the spiritual dimension itself would not make a real person you follow around non-existent (and thus not stalking either), only a person you can't see is near you, but can sense is near you. I think the later option is what is the case but in some of your posts it is not completely obvious if you are sensing or seeing her when you think you are near each other.



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25 Sep 2018, 10:16 am

I used to run a test. I called it "What's In The Box?"

First, I would select three objects. Then I would place all three in a container ("The Box"). Then I would place the container in a random location. There would be only one "box" at a time.

The rules were simple:
1. Tell me what is in the container, what kind of container they're in, and where the container is located.
2. Do not ask or otherwise "fish" for hints.
3. You get 1 chance; this is not a game of "20 Questions".
4. Be exact and specific; do not rely on synonyms, puns, or subjective definitions of words.
5. You may use any alleged "Psychic" or "Spiritual" means at your disposal (i.e., Ouija board, telemancy, telepathy, et cetera).
6. The first person with the correct answer would have received $100 in cash.

Here are some examples:

- An empty ketchup bottle, a pair of reading glasses, and a wingnut inside a paper bag above the suspended ceiling at the public library.

- A bicycle tyre, a bag of sunflower seeds, and a screwdriver in a garbage bag in my garage.

- A blue feather, a glass marble, and a stick of gum in a medicine bottle buried in my back yard.

I ran this contest for 20 years. No one ever won. No one even came close. Everyone tried to circumvent the rules.

I no longer run this contest. "The Amazing Randi" ran a similar contest, and offered one million US dollars for anyone who could demonstrate "psychic" abilities in front of professional witnesses (e.g., stage magicians, scientists, engineers, et cetera). A version of the challenge was first issued in 1964. Over a thousand people applied to take it, but none were successful. The challenge was terminated in 2015.

There is no valid empirical proof of "psychic abilities", a "spiritual dimension", or a "supernatural realm".

Deal with it.



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25 Sep 2018, 10:23 am

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I used to run a test. I called it "What's In The Box?"

First, I would select three objects. Then I would place all three in a container ("The Box"). Then I would place the container in a random location. There would be only one "box" at a time.

The rules were simple:
1. Tell me what is in the container, what kind of container they're in, and where the container is located.
2. Do not ask or otherwise "fish" for hints.
3. You get 1 chance; this is not a game of "20 Questions".
4. Be exact and specific; do not rely on synonyms, puns, or subjective definitions of words.
5. You may use any alleged "Psychic" or "Spiritual" means at your disposal (i.e., Ouija board, telemancy, telepathy, et cetera).
6. The first person with the correct answer would have received $100 in cash.

Here are some examples:

- An empty ketchup bottle, a pair of reading glasses, and a wingnut inside a paper bag above the suspended ceiling at the public library.

- A bicycle tyre, a bag of sunflower seeds, and a screwdriver in a garbage bag in my garage.

- A blue feather, a glass marble, and a stick of gum in a medicine bottle buried in my back yard.

I ran this contest for 20 years. No one ever won. No one even came close. Everyone tried to circumvent the rules.

I no longer run this contest. "The Amazing Randi" ran a similar contest, and offered one million US dollars for anyone who could demonstrate "psychic" abilities in front of professional witnesses (e.g., stage magicians, scientists, engineers, et cetera). A version of the challenge was first issued in 1964. Over a thousand people applied to take it, but none were successful. The challenge was terminated in 2015.

There is no valid empirical proof of "psychic abilities", a "spiritual dimension", or a "supernatural realm".

Deal with it.


For lack of a better word: AMEN :D


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25 Sep 2018, 10:25 am

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Nobody has proved that spirituality or mind-to-mind communication is impossible. In fact, this is not even possible to prove. The only thing that is possible to prove is that mind-to-mind communication works. Negatives can never be proved. Therefore, your logic fails completely, so go back to the beginning and do it right.

And things without evidence need not be assumed to be existing.
I can not prove that rhinogradentia don't or didn't exist, but they are a fantasy creation of some biologist and publications about them usually only appear on April's fools day. I have no reason to believe that they do or did exist as there's no evidence of their existence.
I can not prove that flying spaghetti monsters do not exist. But the creator of it was making fun of religion and there's no evidence that it does exist. I have no reason to believe flying spaghetti monsters exist.
I can not prove that stones do not have pain perception, but there's no evidence that they might. I won't feel terribly bad next time I step onto a stone.
Same with mind-to-mind connections.



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25 Sep 2018, 11:10 am

rdos isn’t completely delusional. The metaphysical/spiritual realm exists and is simply beyond our normal range of perception of the electromagnetic spectrum. Mind to mind communication also exists - sometimes you just Know what someone is thinking or going to say.. thoughts, intentions/meditations, prayers - all of these things have real power.

But advanced telepathy as an ND trait? A sixth “directional sense,” etc = Nope!


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25 Sep 2018, 11:58 am

^ I don't believe in any of it, so I'm covered. :lol:


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25 Sep 2018, 12:37 pm

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... The metaphysical/spiritual realm exists and is simply beyond our normal range of perception of the electromagnetic spectrum. Mind to mind communication also exists - sometimes you just Know what someone is thinking or going to say.. thoughts, intentions/meditations, prayers - all of these things have real power...
It would be nice if someone would provide a demonstration. Tellya what; call me at my office phone and we'll discuss it.



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25 Sep 2018, 12:59 pm

A girlfriend is not a lost girlfiend.



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25 Sep 2018, 1:23 pm

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But I don’t think it’s appropriate to donate sperm with the hopes that you make NT’s lives difficult with a low functioning ASD child.


We need to make sure the ND genes survive, so a great initiative. You are doing no good in this area, so be grateful somebody else does a better job.


Shame on you Goldfish for being gay and refusing to spread your seed and superior autistic genes! You should at least be grateful that others are lying and wishing ill on others!

I need a gallon of brain bleach after reading this thread :eew:

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since i lack a formal diagnosis its not illegal nor is there any way to stop it and in what way is it dishonest nts do all they can to make us miserable and this is karma baby


This is a really messed up way to think.


Agreed. Someone needs to learn that only his own reactions to and thoughts about NT’s can make him miserable. NT’s do not go out of their way to make him, or any of us, feel miserable.*

*Aside from the occasional bully. Some people are just jerks.

do u think people on the spectrum should be legally banned from reproduction just curious


You're missing the point - leaving aside your spiteful attitude towards NTs - how well do you think a low functioning autistic child will fare with parents that are completely unprepared for and ignorant of his needs? The kid will likely pay the biggest price for your recklessness and dishonesty.


OK how is it reckless or dishonest? If you don't think that people on the spectrum should be banned from reproduction then you should have NO problem with it.


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25 Sep 2018, 1:29 pm

When I was little, I had a fascination with dancing candle flames. SO perhaps, my offspring will be burning down the house so to speak. I even wrote a song: Go little pyro, getting ready to burn. Light em up and watch it go, go go little pyro! Roast em alive and hear them shriek, burn it all down within a week! Tear out the wires of the breakfast nook, shower the sparks and watch em cook. Go go little pyro! Go go little pyro!


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25 Sep 2018, 1:32 pm

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rdos isn’t completely delusional. The metaphysical/spiritual realm exists and is simply beyond our normal range of perception of the electromagnetic spectrum. Mind to mind communication also exists - sometimes you just Know what someone is thinking or going to say.. thoughts, intentions/meditations, prayers - all of these things have real power.

But advanced telepathy as an ND trait? A sixth “directional sense,” etc = Nope!


If any of that existed science would have solid evidence of it by now. Some of that need not even be "spiritual magical etc" in nature. Think quantum mechanics.


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25 Sep 2018, 1:46 pm

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OK how is it reckless or dishonest? If you don't think that people on the spectrum should be banned from reproduction then you should have NO problem with it.


It's dishonest because you're lying and it's reckless because you do it with the intention of hurting random NTs while not giving a shite how your own offspring will fare in life.

Of course I don't believe people on the spectrum should be banned from reproducing. I did it - without lying to anyone - and I care for and about my offspring, not see them as weapons to be used for revenge.


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When I was little, I had a fascination with dancing candle flames. SO perhaps, my offspring will be burning down the house so to speak. I even wrote a song: Go little pyro, getting ready to burn. Light em up and watch it go, go go little pyro! Roast em alive and hear them shriek, burn it all down within a week! Tear out the wires of the breakfast nook, shower the sparks and watch em cook. Go go little pyro! Go go little pyro!


This speaks for itself - I don't know why I bother. I honestly hope you're trolling, because you speak like a true psychopath.


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OK how is it reckless or dishonest? If you don't think that people on the spectrum should be banned from reproduction then you should have NO problem with it.


It's dishonest because you're lying and it's reckless because you do it with the intention of hurting random NTs while not giving a shite how your own offspring will fare in life.

Of course I don't believe people on the spectrum should be banned from reproducing. I did it - without lying to anyone - and I care for and about my offspring, not see them as weapons to be used for revenge.


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When I was little, I had a fascination with dancing candle flames. SO perhaps, my offspring will be burning down the house so to speak. I even wrote a song: Go little pyro, getting ready to burn. Light em up and watch it go, go go little pyro! Roast em alive and hear them shriek, burn it all down within a week! Tear out the wires of the breakfast nook, shower the sparks and watch em cook. Go go little pyro! Go go little pyro!


This speaks for itself - I don't know why I bother. I honestly hope you're trolling, because you speak like a true psychopath.


I never lied to anyone. They don't ask you if you have ASD and I've never even been diagnosed, so no lies.


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25 Sep 2018, 2:13 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
rdos isn’t completely delusional. The metaphysical/spiritual realm exists and is simply beyond our normal range of perception of the electromagnetic spectrum. Mind to mind communication also exists - sometimes you just Know what someone is thinking or going to say.. thoughts, intentions/meditations, prayers - all of these things have real power.

But advanced telepathy as an ND trait? A sixth “directional sense,” etc = Nope!


In other words, "My magical thinking is true but yours isn't. "


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25 Sep 2018, 2:14 pm

mrspock wrote:
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OK how is it reckless or dishonest? If you don't think that people on the spectrum should be banned from reproduction then you should have NO problem with it.


It's dishonest because you're lying and it's reckless because you do it with the intention of hurting random NTs while not giving a shite how your own offspring will fare in life.

Of course I don't believe people on the spectrum should be banned from reproducing. I did it - without lying to anyone - and I care for and about my offspring, not see them as weapons to be used for revenge.


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When I was little, I had a fascination with dancing candle flames. SO perhaps, my offspring will be burning down the house so to speak. I even wrote a song: Go little pyro, getting ready to burn. Light em up and watch it go, go go little pyro! Roast em alive and hear them shriek, burn it all down within a week! Tear out the wires of the breakfast nook, shower the sparks and watch em cook. Go go little pyro! Go go little pyro!


This speaks for itself - I don't know why I bother. I honestly hope you're trolling, because you speak like a true psychopath.


I never lied to anyone. They don't ask you if you have ASD and I've never even been diagnosed, so no lies.


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