Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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People who own or are paid to admin a server don't need your approval to delete things, for the same reason gun owners are encouraged to physically deny access to their firearms.

I really dislike the idea someone is a lost cause because they went down a path that radicalized them. It's obvious these people need help, yet everyone is ready to write them off. I could have easily become an incel if I obsessed over my situation the way they do and started buying into the BS. I didn't swallow that bitter pill.

I think the actual bitter pills are healthier, radicals are effectively selling sugar pills. The reason I'm not drinking this or any other flavor of kool-aid is that I can love people even if my life among them doesn't make any sense.

The Mgtow thing is upside down Feminism, it would not exist without Feminism.

The Incel thing is the upside down form of extremely pissed off Feminism, it would not exist without Feminism.

The Incel thing could have started out as satire, irony competitions and just being nasty for the sake of it, as people often do on the internet, but having been over to the incel sites there does appear to be something dark, nasty and thoroughly sincere going on in the hatred.

IMO, the reason the SJW faction is terrified of Incel is because it is their mirror image, the Monster of Franken Girlpower so to speak.

No solutions offered, bigotry appears to have infested every political position and I stay home a lot. More than that, it is proactive Stasi style bigotry that seeks to end people's livelihoods, to inflict damage on lives.

If they do, it must be a very noisy place. Resolving to do better in the future, and doing it, is atonement enough for their deaths, if there is a great spirit of crickets in the universe, your effort to be kinder to them will be noted.

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about here. The 'incel' phenomenon is a result of a group of perpetually sexually frustrated men congregating online, sympathizing with each other, and allocating the blame of their chronic sexlessness on women and society. With or without feminism, you'd still have lonely sexually frustrated men, so the idea that incel culture wouldn't be a thing without feminism has no basis. Unless you're saying that feminism has contributed to the isolation of these men, but if you were to assert that, you'd have to go into greater detail on what you perceive caused this rather than just saying 'feminism'.

You are clearly 21 and I am clearly 62, no worries about that though. I have been watching the delicate flower of Feminism fester for more than forty years now, and that could count for something.

I would argue / guess that the venom displayed on incel sites was first rehearsed by Feminists, and as Bindel, for example, has advocated putting men in concentration camps then it is hardly surprising that someone copies that same level of dreadfulness.

Again I could be wrong, the venom of the incels might have come from a possible habit of mind developed on sites like 4chan or whatever.

Or alternatively you can come round to what I really believe, that people are in fact not good things.

So you’d be fine if they decide to censor you?
I’d bet you’d be pissed. They can do whatever Alex approves as they don’t own the site they are volunteer employees.
You really want this site to just be women aspies, happily in relationship aspies and leftiests ?

I certainly don’t want that.

I like a diversity of people.

An observation of this thread:

One would think that extreme relationship frustrations would motivate someone to do whatever it took to treat their symptoms and live a fuller, more socially connected, life with the possibility of sex &/or relationships.

But apparently not. So bizarre to me that people would have these strong of social complaints yet still refuse to try new things to treat what ails them.

To each their own, I suppose. I know which version of life I choose for myself.

not everybody has the wherewithal or gumption to "try." remember that. you have unusual blessings or gifts that you seem to be taking for granted, and expecting everybody else to have similar gifts.

They seem to have plenty of time and energy to expend complaining. If even a fraction of that was redirected to trying they’d be improving themselves.

Maybe they just haven’t hit their rock bottom yet where they’re willing to do whatever it takes? I remember mine.

I see a lot of people (not just here, but in life) suffering from various things, but it’s not so bad that they’re willing to do anything to fix it. So, they suffer instead. When I see this I simply assume that it’s never gotten bad enough for them to be willing to do whatever it takes to correct it.

Yet, reading people’s complaints here.. that they’re suicidal - one would think they must be at a low of lows and had enough suffering & thus would want to change. Bizarrely, it isn’t so.

I think of a cat I useta have [RIP ] who had anal worms, and it would scrape its backside against the floor in an attempt to scratch the itch. a lot of us here are like that cat, it didn't know or comprehend the concept of hygiene, to clean its @$$ to maintain cleanliness sufficient to keep the worms away, it never entered into its thinking. a lot of us see the concept of "trying" and it might as well be the same kind of greek, the very concept of organizing sufficient to be jerking ourselves up by the bootstraps like horatio alger is just noise to us, it is so HARD and impenetrably complicated a thing. multi-step instructions that unfold over years and decades do me [and a lot of the rest of us] in. so in the absence of a magic wand or a simple thing not requiring a collegiate kind of calculating strategic mind, we sit in place and marinate and take the path of least resistance. lame, perhaps, but it is what it is.

If I don't attract people that like me for who I am, so be it. It clearly wasn't meant to be. I don't expect people to like me. If they do that is great.

I think the creator wanted me to take the road less travelled, as all the more popular roads seemed blocked from me, one way or another. they were just too hard.

Victim blame society blames the victim, this does not help anything, the person still has issues and adds to the problem. Therapy and medication does not help in some cases and I tried therapy and medication and it did not work for me.