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10 Mar 2017, 10:21 am

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Why do people want a girlfriend, I don't get it. I've never had a girlfriend in my entire life and I'm perfectly fine with that. See it from the bright side, no responsibility. I like having no responsibilities.


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There are way worse responsibilities in life.



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10 Mar 2017, 1:19 pm

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**tapping on your shoulder**

It's true, you are still young, soon enough you will find out that all these matters are important, regardless of confidence.


You are right. But I don't think I will find it out atleast for the time being :D



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11 Mar 2017, 5:44 am

Don't mean to come off as a jerk here, but if you know little to nothing about nutrition please avoid giving people advice. It is much easier to eat less, than to exercise more in my opinion, and skipping breakfast is a perfectly fine way to achieve that. Intermittent fasting is not for everyone, but it is by no means a "fad diet". I myself much prefer being hungry in the morning, compared to being hungry at night, which a little bit of hunger is to be expected while being in a calorie deficit.

I have been able to maintain abs for a year now, eating desserts every night before bed, because I skip breakfast. As long as you get sufficient protein, fiber and vitamins, there is nothing wrong with this approach.



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11 Mar 2017, 3:43 pm

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Don't mean to come off as a jerk here, but if you know little to nothing about nutrition please avoid giving people advice. It is much easier to eat less, than to exercise more in my opinion, and skipping breakfast is a perfectly fine way to achieve that. Intermittent fasting is not for everyone, but it is by no means a "fad diet". I myself much prefer being hungry in the morning, compared to being hungry at night, which a little bit of hunger is to be expected while being in a calorie deficit.

I have been able to maintain abs for a year now, eating desserts every night before bed, because I skip breakfast. As long as you get sufficient protein, fiber and vitamins, there is nothing wrong with this approach.
What would your advice be if someone wanted to lose weight quickly?



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12 Mar 2017, 2:57 am

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Don't mean to come off as a jerk here, but if you know little to nothing about nutrition please avoid giving people advice. It is much easier to eat less, than to exercise more in my opinion, and skipping breakfast is a perfectly fine way to achieve that. Intermittent fasting is not for everyone, but it is by no means a "fad diet". I myself much prefer being hungry in the morning, compared to being hungry at night, which a little bit of hunger is to be expected while being in a calorie deficit.

I have been able to maintain abs for a year now, eating desserts every night before bed, because I skip breakfast. As long as you get sufficient protein, fiber and vitamins, there is nothing wrong with this approach.
What would your advice be if someone wanted to lose weight quickly?


I have 3 rules when it comes to fat loss:

- Calorie deficit
- Adequate protein (0.8-1g * lbs/bodyweight)
- Adequate fiber (10g/1000cal)

For your body to tap into it's fat stores, you have to be in an energy deficit. Protein will protect lean mass and is thermogenic, fiber aids digestion and is also thermogenic. The science shows, when calories, protein and fiber are matched, fat loss will be identical no matter what you eat or when you eat it.

So my suggestion would be to download myFitnessPal, and track these 3 factors, and the rest is preference. This will give you more control of your body composition than anything else. Of course the protein and fiber goals will force you to eat somewhat "healthy", but there is no reason to give up foods you enjoy. I usually leave room for chocolate or ice cream every night. :P

To lose weight "quickly", you simply increase the deficit, but I wouldn't recommend going too aggressive for a normal weight person.



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12 Mar 2017, 3:24 am

What will happen if my protein based diet lacks fiber?


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12 Mar 2017, 3:59 am

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What will happen if my protein based diet lacks fiber?


Depends. Your body might have a harder time absorbing nutrients, you might be a bit more hungry. Most likely though you will not see a huge difference in fat loss unless you're eating alot of carbohydrates. Protein is by far the most important factor.

If I were you though I would just try to hit 20-30 grams by eating more fruit, veggies, breads, cereals, potatoes or whatever high fiber foods you enjoy. Or you could use a fiber supplement, psylium husks.

edit: The reason I recommend fiber is more so based on health and satiety, as the thermogenic of fiber is pretty complicated and I can't quite tell you precisely how the mechanics of it work. You will most likely get close to the same fat loss results in most cases. If you're only seeking fat loss, and want to keep it simple, just track calories and protein, those are above and beyond the two most important variables.



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12 Mar 2017, 6:24 am

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What will happen if my protein based diet lacks fiber?


Hard time in toilet.



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12 Mar 2017, 6:49 am

I asked for that one :lol:


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12 Mar 2017, 7:08 am

Got this for lunch:
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Yes it looks like a Chinese recipe, but it's Levantine.



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12 Mar 2017, 7:37 am

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Got this for lunch:
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Yes it looks like a Chinese recipe, but it's Levantine.



I'm gonna be blunt here, that does not look too appealing :?



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12 Mar 2017, 8:04 am

There is absolutely zero scientific evidence that dairy is bad for you or causes fat gain, actually dairy has been found to preserve muscle and bone mass really well during energy deficit. Soy has been linked to low testosterone in men, and should mostly be avoided if male. White bread being bad is complete nonsense, it is pretty much pure glucose. If you replaced butter with margerine you did not do youself any favor. Margerine is hydrogenated fat(trans fat), pretty much the only kind of fat that is actually bad for you, while butter is a very healthy fat with omega 3's. If you didn't get any protein during dieting you most likely lost just as much muscle and bone mass proportionate to fat.



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12 Mar 2017, 9:10 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Got this for lunch:
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Yes it looks like a Chinese recipe, but it's Levantine.
I'm gonna be blunt here, that does not look too appealing :?
If it tastes bad it must be good for you. Stuff that tastes nice is usually fattening.


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12 Mar 2017, 9:22 am

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I need to address some things here, so people don't follow bad advice.

First off, there is absolutely zero scientific evidence that dairy is bad for you or causes fat gain, actually dairy has been found to preserve muscle and bone mass really well during energy deficit.
True but if you're addicted to peptides like I am you end up drinking enough that you no longer have a calorie deficit.
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I get my nutritional information from a British vegan nutritionist who has a PHD in nutrition. I ended up losing 4 stone because of him in less than a few months. I legit love that guy.
I get my nutritional information from my doctor. He has an MD, not a PhD. He has a prescription pad and he's not a vegan.

He knew a way for me to lose a pound per day for weeks at a time. He prescribed me amphetamines. Amphetamines are quite an effective appetite suppressent and allowed me to function without sleep. It felt pretty weird having a pulse of 180 all the time.


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12 Mar 2017, 9:39 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Got this for lunch:
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Yes it looks like a Chinese recipe, but it's Levantine.
I'm gonna be blunt here, that does not look too appealing :?
If it tastes bad it must be good for you. Stuff that tastes nice is usually fattening.


To an extent. I could eat a whole wheat burger with meat, cheese, bacon and spinach and tomatoes, and it would still have a much more complete nutrition profile than something that looks like pond water.

"Healthy eating" = / = torture



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12 Mar 2017, 10:04 am

^ Eating fat doesn't make you fat.

Eating carbs make you fat, most especially sugar.

It's not as though the fat in your food goes directly to your waistline undigested.


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