My gf seems to be bothered that I am 'white and privileged'.

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05 Mar 2022, 10:17 am

That article doesn’t speak the truth. If that’s what the article actually says.



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06 Mar 2022, 12:41 am

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Well I would like to understand her more, but I just have trouble figuring out her way of thinking. For example, she talks to me about this article on systematic racism, talking about how the white race is much more able bodied, capital driven then other races.


How does she explain china?



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06 Mar 2022, 12:43 am

ironpony wrote:
Well I would like to understand her more, but I just have trouble figuring out her way of thinking. For example, she talks to me about this article on systematic racism, talking about how the white race is much more able bodied, capital driven then other races.

This was supposed to read as a criticism to white people I assume, but to me, this comes across as an insult to other races, because if the white race is more able bodied, that just implies that they are more physically capable than other races, and if they say the white race is more capital driven, that is saying that other races, don't have a drive to achieve as much, as if they are under-achievers in comparison. I just don't understand any of this really.


Ok....sounds like she's deep down the rabbit hole ironpony. What does she expect from you?



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06 Mar 2022, 2:10 am

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ironpony wrote:
Well I would like to understand her more, but I just have trouble figuring out her way of thinking. For example, she talks to me about this article on systematic racism, talking about how the white race is much more able bodied, capital driven then other races.

This was supposed to read as a criticism to white people I assume, but to me, this comes across as an insult to other races, because if the white race is more able bodied, that just implies that they are more physically capable than other races, and if they say the white race is more capital driven, that is saying that other races, don't have a drive to achieve as much, as if they are under-achievers in comparison. I just don't understand any of this really.


Ok....sounds like she's deep down the rabbit hole ironpony. What does she expect from you?


I'll find out soon and see on our next date if anything comes up.



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06 Mar 2022, 10:33 am

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Ok....sounds like she's deep down the rabbit hole ironpony. What does she expect from you?


I'll find out soon and see on our next date if anything comes up.

The only thing you should be finding out is your girlfriend's reaction to you breaking up with her. She sounds like a nightmare to be around. I'd kick that brainwashed liberal to the curb if I were you, followed by blocking her on every communication channel in place now.



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06 Mar 2022, 2:17 pm

Oh well I am just trying to understand her though at the moment. Like how did a certain liberals come to believe that protesting a vaccine mandate is racist or where did that belief come from originally?



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06 Mar 2022, 9:18 pm

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Like how did a certain liberals come to believe that protesting a vaccine mandate is racist or where did that belief come from originally?
They were brainwashed and/or paid off by George Soros. They're barely human anymore; they're one step away from being zombies. It's the same way liberals believe you can't get Covid when you loot or burn down a store, but will instantly get Covid when you shop there honestly. I bet your girlfriend believes that too.

Duuuude! Dump her already! Your mental health will thank you.



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07 Mar 2022, 12:09 am

All of the white people are privileged relative to black people. White disabled people are oppressed to a very similar degree that black people who are abled, in general are.

A white person who doesn't subscribe to white ideals & is disabled, is a friend of black people.

A black, female, disabled person is the most oppressed person imaginable.

Ethnic minorities don't trust authority and authority has imposed vaccine mandates. Ethnic minorities do not, in turn, generally trust vaccine mandates because they come from authority that they do not & have never trusted. Black people hold authorities in general, to be responsible for black oppression.



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07 Mar 2022, 4:56 am

ironpony wrote:
Oh well I am just trying to understand her though at the moment. Like how did a certain liberals come to believe that protesting a vaccine mandate is racist or where did that belief come from originally?


I think it's the Venn diagram again. The people who are anti-vaxxers contain a high proportion of right wingers. And a fair proportion of right wingers are what your g'f probably considers the r-word.



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07 Mar 2022, 12:37 pm

That makes sense but if a small portion of them are racist, why is she making the trucker protest about racist entitlement, when it's really about ending a mandate?



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07 Mar 2022, 2:02 pm

That makes sense but if a small portion of them are racist, why is she making the trucker protest about racist entitlement, when it's really about ending a mandate?



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07 Mar 2022, 3:12 pm

You could even explain it that way to her.

I think you may be pleasantly surprised how reasonable she may be,

People who have socialist tendencies are actually deep down caring people and rather than be defensive, I think it makes her even more appealing.

Tell her this is a learning experience for both of you, She will appreciate your wisdom.



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07 Mar 2022, 3:13 pm

ironpony wrote:
why is she making the trucker protest about racist entitlement, when it's really about ending a mandate?


Ask her to share what she reads. Both of you could read it together.



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07 Mar 2022, 5:18 pm

cyberdad wrote:
You could even explain it that way to her.

I think you may be pleasantly surprised how reasonable she may be,

People who have socialist tendencies are actually deep down caring people and rather than be defensive, I think it makes her even more appealing.

Tell her this is a learning experience for both of you, She will appreciate your wisdom.


Well I don't think she is being reasonable on this as much though and it really seems to bother her.



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07 Mar 2022, 5:21 pm

ironpony wrote:
That makes sense but if a small portion of them are racist, why is she making the trucker protest about racist entitlement, when it's really about ending a mandate?

Because it has nothing to do with actual racism or ending a mandate. You can do one or two things—either go back and read everything I said on CRT, or skip ahead to the tl;dr version right here.

If you take the R out of CRT, what you have is plain old fashioned Critical Theory, which is basically a way of understanding the world through the lens of deconstructing power structures. The question is asked “Why did socialism/communism fail?” The answer is that by eliminating one power structure, a new one was created. The hegemony is essentially the same people the proletariat revolted against. When you add the R back to CT, then it becomes specifically about white people retaining power structures. Instead of socialism—equality, common ownership of the means of production—you get communism and fascism that perpetuate corrupt power structures. CRT makes this more specific by explaining hegemony as being white with the resulting power structures as inherently, systemically corrupt and racist.

To break this down into it’s most basic, simplistic form:

1. All white people are racist and constitute the dominant culture (hegemony) everywhere they live.
2. Truckers protesting mandates are predominantly white
3. Therefore, truckers’ mandate protests are the result of systemic racism with the intention to oppress American and Canadian minorities,



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07 Mar 2022, 5:24 pm

AngelRho wrote:
ironpony wrote:
That makes sense but if a small portion of them are racist, why is she making the trucker protest about racist entitlement, when it's really about ending a mandate?

Because it has nothing to do with actual racism or ending a mandate. You can do one or two things—either go back and read everything I said on CRT, or skip ahead to the tl;dr version right here.

If you take the R out of CRT, what you have is plain old fashioned Critical Theory, which is basically a way of understanding the world through the lens of deconstructing power structures. The question is asked “Why did socialism/communism fail?” The answer is that by eliminating one power structure, a new one was created. The hegemony is essentially the same people the proletariat revolted against. When you add the R back to CT, then it becomes specifically about white people retaining power structures. Instead of socialism—equality, common ownership of the means of production—you get communism and fascism that perpetuate corrupt power structures. CRT makes this more specific by explaining hegemony as being white with the resulting power structures as inherently, systemically corrupt and racist.

To break this down into it’s most basic, simplistic form:

1. All white people are racist and constitute the dominant culture (hegemony) everywhere they live.
2. Truckers protesting mandates are predominantly white
3. Therefore, truckers’ mandate protests are the result of systemic racism with the intention to oppress American and Canadian minorities,


Oh ok I see. But when I was a trucker there were a lot of non white truckers as well unless this is unusual?

But I also don't understand how people think that protesting a mandate will oppress minorities. How would it exactly?