03 Aug 2013, 5:08 pm
I find the whole OOM saga bewildering, and difficult to understand.... so, do I have this straight now ?
So, she broke up with this first guy (a boyfriend) -
OOM wrote:
When I met the ex I was about 17 and just broke up with my first ever bf who I had been with since I was 15. Great guy, but very sedate and not all that exciting.
... because he was sedate and not all that exciting....
oh noez ! ... in order to get married to a guy who beat the crap out of her, sounds like a douche, and is now a convicted murderer on death row..... and they were married for two years (he seemingly abused her the entire time they were married) .. because :
OOM wrote:
because he was cute, he was exciting, he was interesting, and he was one hell of a bad boy. Which is exactly what I wanted at the time.
... then she left him, for another guy who would be beating the sh*t out of her if it weren't for the fact that she fights better (well enough to wind up in jail a few times because of it) , and he is also a douche..... and they both seem to feel quite at liberty to go shagging other people if they feel like it.... but she reckons that :
OOM wrote:
We have had a good marriage overall and I know he loves me and I love him. [...] Other than some problems he's gone though, he's a good guy.
... and in the meantime, lots of perfectly nice guys are having difficulty getting into a relationship at all....
I just don't even ..... I mean, what the actual.... my head can't even begin to process.....
I think I need to go and duct-tape my brain.... it can't take this quantity of dafuq without breaking.
03 Aug 2013, 8:21 pm
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Greb after reading oliveoilmums post. I can't deny that you are onto something. 
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts236743-start30.html
As a teen she left her maybe nice guy boyfriend for a bad boy who is now on death row. Extreme case, but it does say something alright
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts236743-start30.html
As a teen she left her maybe nice guy boyfriend for a bad boy who is now on death row. Extreme case, but it does say something alright
And OliveOilMom is quite a sensible person (probably she learnt the hard way).
Indeed, this 'women and badasses' stuff is just biological. If we were living in the prehistory those nice guys wouldn't be such good providers. The problem is the denial. It's like women being attracted by guys with money: this is just biologial stuff. Women attracted to guys with resources were more likely to see their offspring survive. And the species is shaped by those who survive. But you'll barely see a woman admit it. It's like modern women have built a theory about them and when they find their biology says otherwise, they can't accept it. And then they enter in denial. Indeed, the main point in the video was that nice guys are those who offer women all that they have been asking for (respect, to listen, to treat well, to share homework, and so), and however they don't feel attracted by them. So there's a contradiction between what women feel and what women say. What can you do? Deny and blame nice guys: you don't like them not because your biology says otherwise, but because they feel entitled to have sex, they're as*holes, under their kind appearance they're really negligible and miserable.
This is how mind works. And so here we are.
03 Aug 2013, 9:30 pm
03 Aug 2013, 9:52 pm
Greb wrote:
Indeed, the main point in the video was that nice guys are those who offer women all that they have been asking for (respect, to listen, to treat well, to share homework, and so), and however they don't feel attracted by them. So there's a contradiction between what women feel and what women say.
More blanket statements. Women may not feel attracted to some nice guys. I'm guessing the multitude of happily married nice gentlemen aren't going to be hanging around here to refute your point.
03 Aug 2013, 10:12 pm
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03 Aug 2013, 10:13 pm
Greb wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Greb after reading oliveoilmums post. I can't deny that you are onto something.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts236743-start30.html
As a teen she left her maybe nice guy boyfriend for a bad boy who is now on death row. Extreme case, but it does say something alright
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts236743-start30.html
As a teen she left her maybe nice guy boyfriend for a bad boy who is now on death row. Extreme case, but it does say something alright
And OliveOilMom is quite a sensible person (probably she learnt the hard way).
Indeed, this 'women and badasses' stuff is just biological. If we were living in the prehistory those nice guys wouldn't be such good providers. The problem is the denial. It's like women being attracted by guys with money: this is just biologial stuff. Women attracted to guys with resources were more likely to see their offspring survive. And the species is shaped by those who survive. But you'll barely see a woman admit it. It's like modern women have built a theory about them and when they find their biology says otherwise, they can't accept it. And then they enter in denial. Indeed, the main point in the video was that nice guys are those who offer women all that they have been asking for (respect, to listen, to treat well, to share homework, and so), and however they don't feel attracted by them. So there's a contradiction between what women feel and what women say. What can you do? Deny and blame nice guys: you don't like them not because your biology says otherwise, but because they feel entitled to have sex, they're as*holes, under their kind appearance they're really negligible and miserable.
This is how mind works. And so here we are.
I remember reading an article ages ago that men who do more housework get less sex.
Yeah I agree if you follow evolution this stuff makes sense. So yes!! !
In oliveoilmoms case part of it would have been rebelling against her over protective mother.
With the bad ass thing. You have to think about even in prehistoric days humans were still social animals and worked together. If a man did bad things he would be punished by the group. But yeah when you think about it, say a tribe, the alpha men the more control and power they have, the more they can do whatever they want. Not really that much different in what happens today. I still think it's more an alpha thing though, like a man that is well respected by the group is an alpha to. Maybe more so, he doesn't need a small group of loyal hench men to protect him.
But yeah anyway it makes sense. I agree with you.
But I still stand by my post I made earlier too. Like sure there is a biological attraction happening. But women have brains and can logically see the obvious attraction of a nice guy(well some can). I just don't want to see you and others go down the misogynist road. It will not do you the slightest be of good.
03 Aug 2013, 10:46 pm
04 Aug 2013, 11:27 am
Greb wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Greb after reading oliveoilmums post. I can't deny that you are onto something.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts236743-start30.html
As a teen she left her maybe nice guy boyfriend for a bad boy who is now on death row. Extreme case, but it does say something alright
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts236743-start30.html
As a teen she left her maybe nice guy boyfriend for a bad boy who is now on death row. Extreme case, but it does say something alright
And OliveOilMom is quite a sensible person (probably she learnt the hard way).
Indeed, this 'women and badasses' stuff is just biological. If we were living in the prehistory those nice guys wouldn't be such good providers. The problem is the denial. It's like women being attracted by guys with money: this is just biologial stuff. Women attracted to guys with resources were more likely to see their offspring survive. And the species is shaped by those who survive. But you'll barely see a woman admit it. It's like modern women have built a theory about them and when they find their biology says otherwise, they can't accept it. And then they enter in denial. Indeed, the main point in the video was that nice guys are those who offer women all that they have been asking for (respect, to listen, to treat well, to share homework, and so), and however they don't feel attracted by them. So there's a contradiction between what women feel and what women say. What can you do? Deny and blame nice guys: you don't like them not because your biology says otherwise, but because they feel entitled to have sex, they're as*holes, under their kind appearance they're really negligible and miserable.
This is how mind works. And so here we are.
Those ladies don't deserve the treatment they are getting. Who is going to be a better father, and care more about his kids, a nice guy, or a ripped guy who has never even been in a fight. Who's more likely to cheat? Who's more likely to be loyal? Who's more likely to give his family his all, rather than just enough?
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