Are most men struggling to get healthy weight women?

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12 Mar 2017, 10:21 am

It tastes awesome.

Well, yeah... it is not pretty, in an unprofessional photo especially, it's basically boiled and slightly fried vegetables/seeds put together with lemon juice.

Food like this is common in the East; this is a Chinese dish for instance :

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12 Mar 2017, 10:27 am

Soya is bad for men.

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12 Mar 2017, 10:32 am

I find it pretty unintelligent to take information from anyone based on any title, if they can't back their statements up with controlled studies. There's a reason 95% of the elite in nutrition don't give these vegan nutritionists any credit, they cherry pick and rely on bad science. btw I don't consider huffington post articles a good source of information.

Dairy and Health:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26931302
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23075559
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22301838
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22049177
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21775530

Soy and testosterone:
https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article ... elation-to
http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/5/10/785.short
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11431339
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11577007
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11694625

Saturated fat and heart disease: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?...

The quality of protein in plants is generally lower than animal proteins, this is because of a poorer amino acid profile.

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12 Mar 2017, 10:35 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

^ Eating fat doesn't make you fat.

Eating carbs make you fat, most especially sugar.

It's not as though the fat in your food goes directly to your waistline undigested.

Eating fat doesn't make you fat, but eating carbs doesn't make you fat either.
Eating more calories than you burn makes you fat.

Low carb diets have no metabolic advantage:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/83/5/1055.long

Remember, it is distinctively the higher protein that is beneficial for fat loss.

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12 Mar 2017, 10:42 am

Honestly, most vegetarians I personally knew ended up ordered by doctors to eat meat; and end up returning to meat.

They either end up with acute Anemia or get hospitalized.

I know an Indian guy who never eat any animal product since he was child for religious reasons, he's skinny but so far is living fine so he is probably doing something right to compensate lack of animal products in his diet.

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12 Mar 2017, 5:42 pm

Moderator note:

Once again, in a thread about weight and food issues, feelings are running high for some posters who have completely different opinions, and this causes bad feeling and threatens to corrupt the thread. As moderators, we are sadly used to people not respecting different opinions from their own in the PPR forum, and it is toxic there for that reason. People have a right to hold different opinions without being insulted; posters are urged to agree to disagree rather than create these "I am right" contests which cause otherwise interesting threads to be corrupted and locked. Some useful points made here: http://www.wikihow.com/Accept-and-Embrace-Disagreement

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13 Mar 2017, 4:54 am

Closet Genious wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

^ Eating fat doesn't make you fat.

Eating carbs make you fat, most especially sugar.

It's not as though the fat in your food goes directly to your waistline undigested.

I see your point but I think the term "empty calories" still applies to most high carb food.

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13 Mar 2017, 6:01 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Closet Genious wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

^ Eating fat doesn't make you fat.

Eating carbs make you fat, most especially sugar.

It's not as though the fat in your food goes directly to your waistline undigested.

I see your point but I think the term "empty calories" still applies to most high carb food.

I agree with that. The problem with sugar is not the sugar in itself, but what you are replacing it with. Sugary foods usually don't have alot of protein, fiber or vitamins, and are not very filling. They have done studies matching calories and protein, one group got below 10 grams of sugar per day, the other got 100 grams sugar per day. The results for both groups were pretty much identical. However, for a person who does not track their food intake, eating more sugar will most likely result in eating more calories overall, and also less protein and fiber.

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13 Mar 2017, 2:51 pm

Closet Genious wrote:

There is absolutely zero scientific evidence that dairy is bad for you or causes fat gain, actually dairy has been found to preserve muscle and bone mass really well during energy deficit. Soy has been linked to low testosterone in men, and should mostly be avoided if male. White bread being bad is complete nonsense, it is pretty much pure glucose. If you replaced butter with margerine you did not do youself any favor. Margerine is hydrogenated fat(trans fat), pretty much the only kind of fat that is actually bad for you, while butter is a very healthy fat with omega 3's. If you didn't get any protein during dieting you most likely lost just as much muscle and bone mass proportionate to fat.

Plus butter tastes better anyways.

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13 Mar 2017, 8:27 pm

as an aspie,i prefer women,and girls that are chubby.

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14 Mar 2017, 1:31 am

Guy 1:I prefer women who are chubby --> what they say about him: "he likes real women", "kuddos to him!", "he's a good and deep guy", "He knows what he wants"
Guy 2: I prefer women who are slim ---> "He's shallow", "He wants to make us starved", "Sexist", "He likes skeleton-like models", "He's a porn addict".

"lol"

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14 Mar 2017, 5:50 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Sorry but that's BS. I know guys who have been teased and embarassed for liking bigger girls

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14 Mar 2017, 7:03 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Well I see this as a positive for women. This means they slim women get less competition. Making it easier for you to get a boyfriend when you have a healthy weight. And everyone can lose some weight( unless you have some metabolism disorder etc.)

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14 Mar 2017, 8:28 am

Alliekit wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Sorry but that's BS. I know guys who have been teased and embarassed for liking bigger girls

Well, it's not me who invented the "real women have curves" campaign. These campaigns created an ambiance of slim-shaming the slim women and shaming the guys who prefer slim women too.

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/am-real-woman

It became totally socially acceptable to shame skinny to a level that fat-shaming never reached before https://www.phasesofrobyn.com/wp-conten ... haming.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... 4f2ca1.jpg

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15 Mar 2017, 10:51 am

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RetroGamer87 wrote:

Sometime World wrote:

So. No single healthy weight women in my real world (they are all taken) and online dating makes me feel like worthless ugly s**t.

Yeah. Even the obese ones think they're too good for me.

How did the market become so heavily tipped in their favour that I need a degree while they don't need to maintain a healthy weight?

They have other things to offer

Oh God, I missed this one! Can't stop laughing! :lmao:

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15 Mar 2017, 11:06 am

Peacesells wrote:

Alliekit wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Sometime World wrote:

So. No single healthy weight women in my real world (they are all taken) and online dating makes me feel like worthless ugly s**t.

Yeah. Even the obese ones think they're too good for me.

How did the market become so heavily tipped in their favour that I need a degree while they don't need to maintain a healthy weight?

They have other things to offer

Oh God, I missed this one! Can't stop laughing! :lmao:

Apparently, an awesome f*ckboob requires an awesome degree in return.

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