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Meems has very valid points.

Rabbitss, your initial comment was misogynist, overgeneralizing and insulting towards all young women in your area. Furthermore, you talk about yourself as the "ideal" guy of the description of luvsterries' picture as well as someone far too good for women in your area. You do not exactly come across as such a trophy based on your past comments. I'm not going to comment on the state of your town, as I have no knowledge about it, but I do find it both arrogant and overgeneralizing to suggest that you are the only decent person within the whole town. I wish you the best of luck in making your way out, and becoming less miserable all due to your surroundings.

You also made a personal attack against meems as well as Hyperlexian, who hasn't been anyhow part of this conversation. That was entirely unnecessary.

Also you say you don't talk to women like that "in real life". A message for you: we are all real people in this forum living the "real life".

You are not using "reason" in your past comments, you talk out of emotion and frustration which doesn't qualify as "truth" or data. Also too much generalizing is never a wise move to do, even if it's a common error to make. I believe you already came to a conclusion that "monkey see, monkey do" is not necessary the best way to go about things.

Try to take this post as constructive feedback.

No, I'll take it for what it is, more people whining about not be able to handle my observations. It's not 'Constructive' because theres nothing in it that I can use to address issues. My issues are totally external, I'm held back by the quality of the people I'm surrounded by. Arrogence is a virtue. If I'm better than them, why shouldn't I act like it? If I'm not, then I'm lieing to them and to myself.

Everything a woman doesn't like is "Misogynist". Everything a guy ever dares complain about is "Misogynist" on this forum. That's what I was pointing out. Whatever meems or hyperlexian or whoever it is this week constantly decrying "Misogyny" whenever they don't get their own way or you're not agreeing with them 100%. I don't think it's insulting to point out a pattern of behavior.

Generalizations and stereotypes exist for a reason, because they are observable over and over again. Anecdote is just a fancy word to discredit facts you don't like.

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If it's one of those towns where the job opportunities are gas station, McDonalds, C.O. of that nearby prison, or meth lab assistant, the town is a massive problem even if you're a stupid, crappy person. At least in a bigger town or city, there is a bigger variety of things and people for a stupid, crappy person to screw up with, so there could be a learning process in there. What do you do if you've exhausted all options in Poopville, USA? Meth.

Exactly. the choices here are, get paid under the table to work at a convenience store/gas station. Work for Walmart. Work for Fastfood. Or drive 30 miles to work some place else.

Confirmation bias. Everyone does it.

Yeah, it's just people in general here. When I was a teenager I sold drugs, not meth or crack, but I got to see a lot of those people(meth heads and crack heads substitute with anything when they can't get speed) so I lost several friends to violence related to drugs. And I don't have any problem admitting my friends were kind of thuggish and just dumb kids who bit off more than they could chew and ended up shot for money or drugs.... but NONE of those murders were ever even seriously investigated.

Part of it was self-destruction, tempting life to go horribly wrong... but it dawned on me that I was actively contributing to heroin addicts lives being hell, and I was going to end up shot and robbed by some junkies at best, eventually, someone was going to rob me since I wasn't part of a larger operation.

Then I moved away from here for several years and when I came back... EVERYONE and their mom sells weed, meth has become really common, crack less so, and the only people selling heroin are really dangerous people involved in gangs and the whole drug problem here changed drastically, and there are broken down motels full of women and men selling their bodies and people selling crack or meth or whatever. It's become a totally different place. Even the high school has upwards of thirty busts per semester of kids selling meth in the school. It's insane.

It's a small city, but it's rife with drugs. I'm glad I never got hurt when I was trying to f**k my life up. Seeing these people when I'm in those areas of town makes me feel sad and relieved at the same time. It's horrible that they live like that but I'm glad I had better sense than to use meth or whatever. I can't even fathom why someone would want to try meth. Or crack. Other drugs, I understand, but meth and crack just make people paranoid and mess up their bodies and they are angry and on edge all the time.

I don't get how that's something people enjoy.

I know. I spent a large part of my youth in Poopville, USA. I have no hope for these places. They must be abandoned and cleansed with fire.

Well see there you go, So you do understand the issue that I'm complaining about. The problem is when you're at a low socio-economic bracket, you're surrounded by other people who are desperate to either make money, or escape their problems by hiding behind drugs. I'm know for a fact that in my graduating class plenty of the girls I went to school with went on to college and did stuff with their lives.. the problem is they left and didn't come back. So what I got stuck with as my available population were the ones who were self destructive and or self destructed burnouts by the time they finished highschool.. so they are now either waffle house waitresses and single moms.. or they are drug and alchohol abusers who can't keep a job because of random tox screens.. so then they sell their bodies instead.

and don't dare try to help these people becuase they don't want it. They take your "Help" as patronizing them and then grow to resent you, and will shamelessly lie to you and play with your emotions to get what they want.

The addition of all the synthetic "legal" drugs like Spice and Kratom and bath salts and all that s**t hasn't helped at all. It just means that the only reason you have to get clean, that is to get a job, now no longer exists. Here even the doctors are part of the problem. Everyone knows that doctor or nurse practitioner who needs money and is more than happy to write you a scrip for 90 Lortab 10's for 500$.. you then turn around and sell those for 10-15$ each tablet and make a profit and then turn around and do it again...

I was starting to think you had changed. Now I can see you're just as before and won't admit to your problems when someone points them out then complain about crap advice when someone doesn't say exactly what you want them to

I actually have to agree with this.. it's kind of ridiculous.

meh.

Nothing can change until the biggest problem is changed. Geography. I'm perfectly fine, I'm perfectly happy with me apart from some social anxiety problems. I'm intelligent, good looking, and I go out of my way to make people happy. But I'm limited by the dregs I have to live around.

In a different world, in a different socio-economic setting, I could have fully realized my potential by now. But my low social standing and low socio-economic status has held me back for my entire life, but i'm not delusional, I'll never be able to divest myself of that. There is no way to do it now. Class is something that America had to invent for itself, and we've done it, and now it's calcified and unbreakable. The trick is to move some place where no one knows me and pretend I'm a higher class than I actually am.

Essentially, like the film "A Knight's Tale"

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"everyone and their mom" is a figure of speech. Our cities don't sound similar. People aren't segregated by socioeconomic status in any regard but the neighborhoods they live in. Though drugs are a problem here, it's still easy to seek out people who aren't part of the drug problem. If I were at all interested in meeting a girl right now I would probably go to a show in a bigger city, nearby, and try to meet people in those outside cities.

And, no, you claim every woman in your town is a prostitute for alcohol, then you added drugs to the list, and described the rest as being either single mothers, or fat and ugly.

You clearly have some bad feelings toward women in general, and that's your thing, and I don't want to take that hate away from you. But I'm not going to pretend your denial of any of your problems coming from you is convincing me of anything.

And people always either think I'm a dude, or maybe they think they're being snarky, but I like the term 'dude' and I've never found it offensive to be mistaken for a guy on the forums.

What is the median income in your town? Is there an enormous gap between your socioeconomic status and the rest of the people in your town? In a town with just a few hundred people... and a meth problem... I'm confused as to how differences in income are so significant where you are.

But that's just it, I don't hate women and never have.

But yet again that is that whole "Misogyny" thing.. that gets thrown around like rice at a wedding here.

Say one negative thing about one female, or a group of females, and suddenly you hate them all.

The town itself has about 4000 people total, but there are two distinct groups of people in the town. There are the families of the people who used to own the mills, and who got rich when they shipped the mills to china. And there are the families of the people who used to work in the mills and now are close to destitute becuase the good jobs in town are basically gone.

It's pretty bad when being a Sherriffs deputy (and getting paid about 26,000$ a year or a CNA and getting about 15,000$ a year are considered "Good Jobs". I can't give you the median income because it's skewed due to the rich people who all work in Atlanta and can afford to commute the 120 mile round trip 5 days a week to do it.

The problem is that you are not acting like a better person. Just an arrogant person with deluded supremacy. That does refer to not all of your problems being external.

When you make hateful, generalizing comments about women it is what is known as misogynist. There is no point in you trying to claim to be a victim of some conspiracy. You have made provocative comments and realistically, you can expect people to call you out for doing it. Men in this forum have in past been called out for making hateful comments about women just like there are women who have been called out for making statements such as "all men are evil". There is no point in you crying out being a victim when people don't agree with you, and furthermore, trying to avoid responsibility and as well as the topic by pointing the finger at others.

Generalizations are common, but not data. How would you feel about being considered as a good for nothing drug addict just because living in the town where you do? After all, you are the only decent person there