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14 Nov 2018, 9:01 pm

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Many of us incels gave up pretty quickly and accepted at a young age that we had no chance. Accepting you have no chance is freedom! There are more things to life than romance and dating. More time to pursue my dreams and do what I want in life without anyone holding me back.


YES! 8)

At least you’re a “make the most of it,” kind of guy.


I was about to chastise him for giving up too easily but you're right. There's no freedom in obsessing over one thing.


Yeah.. but also, in getting it off his mind and focusing on himself, goals, and passions he’s actually doing exactly the things that tend to make one more attractive to others.. so, you never know, he might just meet someone someday mainly because he’s not looking for anyone.


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15 Nov 2018, 12:01 am

my hobbies don't make me more attractive to people in general but they do distract me and make me happier. :alien:



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15 Nov 2018, 2:10 am

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Beats living in a lower working class family. My family was never working class. We were unemployed class.


My father was unemployed almost all of my life. He had depression, developed alcoholism, gambling addiction, smoking addiction. My mother just works as a part-time cleaner.

I didn't have the worst life ever, but I didn't have the greatest starting point either.

Anyway, all that's besides my original point. I'd be happy having women chasing after me purely for my money than the situation I'm in now, where women don't have the slightest interest in me for any reason.



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15 Nov 2018, 2:37 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/com ... cale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.



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15 Nov 2018, 3:23 am

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https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.

Following that track, guys would date only supermodels.


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15 Nov 2018, 4:12 am

Aspie19828 wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.

Hence why growing a beard is a great alternative for men with weaker jaws.



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15 Nov 2018, 8:45 am

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I grew up with many influences.....ranging from 1910s slapstick to 1970s cynicism.

I wanted a dad like the one on “Courtship of Eddie’s Father.”

I wanted to be in the Addams Family because they were more tollerent and more functional than my own family. Aside from their macabre tastes they were the ideal family. It didn't hurt that they were rich.

Being adopted by Mr Drummond was my second choice (also rich).


I worked with the actor that played Lurch in the colourized The Addams Family tv series; John DeSantis. He was 6'11" 285lbs & ripped. That was 17 years ago. 8O He was a bouncer at the first bar I worked at when I was 19.


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15 Nov 2018, 2:51 pm

I personally do not believe that it is a coincidence that so much hate is directed at people who exhibit what is more often than not a sign of being on the autism spectrum. This is nothing new. It's no different than constantly berating us over arbitrary bullsh!t like eye contact or clothing styles. We are often bullied simply for having unpopular interests, or even academic success as if that's somehow bad! It's just one more way for NT society to beat us down.



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15 Nov 2018, 4:59 pm

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We are often bullied simply for having unpopular interests, or even academic success as if that's somehow bad!I

True. If we don't have a good job, we're uneatable but if we have a good job, we're contributing to the salary gap and the lack of women in STEM.

To get a good job may require long hours of study, even longer for those on the spectrum because, if you're anything like me it can take you longer to absorb information and yet, at the same time we're expected to maintain active social lives to meet women?

I don't know about you but for me studying all day and socialising throughout my evening sounds exhausting. There would be no chance to rest.

Easy for thode extroverts for whom socialising is resting but for us introverts it's exhausting.


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15 Nov 2018, 5:19 pm

Aspie19828 wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.


Do you realise that the subforum that is posted in (r/IncelTears) is mocking incels and the stupid s**t they post in their forums like the scale in the OP? You posted an incel meme that the rest of reddit is laughing at for being so stupid, and you posted it unironically. That's amazing. :lol:

I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.



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15 Nov 2018, 5:54 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Aspie19828 wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.


Do you realise that the subforum that is posted in (r/IncelTears) is mocking incels and the stupid s**t they post in their forums like the scale in the OP? You posted an incel meme that the rest of reddit is laughing at for being so stupid, and you posted it unironically. That's amazing. :lol:

I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.


Honestly, I think the lack of adequate social skills is a much bigger problem for many men than looks.



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15 Nov 2018, 5:57 pm

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Honestly, I think the lack of adequate social skills is a much bigger problem for many men than looks.
You may be right. However, there are other factors than looks and social skills that can work for or against a man's popularity.



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15 Nov 2018, 9:02 pm

magnetowasright wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Aspie19828 wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.


Do you realise that the subforum that is posted in (r/IncelTears) is mocking incels and the stupid s**t they post in their forums like the scale in the OP? You posted an incel meme that the rest of reddit is laughing at for being so stupid, and you posted it unironically. That's amazing. :lol:

I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.


Honestly, I think the lack of adequate social skills is a much bigger problem for many men than looks.


A good antidote for that is to treat women as actual people and not "nurturing bots" who will fix all of your problems....


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15 Nov 2018, 9:45 pm

We are product of our up-bringing good or bad. Childhood and adolescence shape our adulthood. No amount of therapy can make people accept us or change our past. I had a bad childhood, neglect and emotional trauma and being the freak/outsider at school/college/work completely destroyed me. I am a broken shell.



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16 Nov 2018, 12:00 am

Maybe incels have had bad experiences with women and felt inadequate and being told by women they are inadequate in bed that erode their confidence and adds to the damaged man's emotional issues. Being an incel does not mean that he has to have never had sex with a woman, inability to form a relationship with a woman. Paying sex workers still makes a guy an incel because he can not form a relationship with a woman. More competition in modern world with social media and dating aps have made it even harder for introverted guys to meet women. It is better to pretend the past never happened and try to just live for the moment and look towards the future.



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16 Nov 2018, 1:16 am

magnetowasright wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Aspie19828 wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.


Do you realise that the subforum that is posted in (r/IncelTears) is mocking incels and the stupid s**t they post in their forums like the scale in the OP? You posted an incel meme that the rest of reddit is laughing at for being so stupid, and you posted it unironically. That's amazing. :lol:

I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.


Honestly, I think the lack of adequate social skills is a much bigger problem for many men than looks.


Well then I'm surprised you identify yourself as an incel because if you were to go on their forums and say that you would get a lot of disagreement from most of them. Many of them seem entirely convinced that their one and only insurmountable problem is their "genetic inferiority", which is their current favourite term for ugliness which they think is something objective and measurable. That's actually a key piece of incel ideology, that their (they assume ugly) looks are the sole factor that has cursed them to be unattractive to women and therefore unable to get a relationship with one. Either their eyes are tilted the wrong way or their jaw isn't prominent enough or their wrists aren't thick enough (as stupid as that last one sounds, there is a not insignificant number of incels who seriously think no woman will ever love them because the circumference of their wrists is too small.)

These are the people you are associating with when you call yourself an incel. That's their own view of themselves and why they gather together online under that banner. Really have a think about that before you put that mantle on.