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15 Feb 2023, 7:58 pm

This makes sense. But you when it comes to guys online who complain about not ever getting any women, you never see them with their hair slicked back and throwing a suit jacket over their shoulder in a confident way for example, if that kind of look and demeanor would help?



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15 Feb 2023, 8:00 pm

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This makes sense. But you when it comes to guys online who complain about not ever getting any women, you never see them with their hair slicked back and throwing a suit jacket over their shoulder in a confident way for example, if that kind of look and demeanor would help?


I think slicked back hair is kind of icky.

I don’t like suit jackets, either. They conjure up bad memories.

People should probably avoid trying too hard when it comes to hair and clothes and should probably focus more on finding opportunities to meet new people.


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15 Feb 2023, 8:05 pm

I don't see them as anything.
I have Aphantasia, meaning I can't picture things / people.
If I had to guess how they look using words, I'd say most are average.
Slicked back hair sounds greasy and shiny.
I don't like shiny hair.
The suit jacket thing sounds phony.
I've never seen anyone do that.


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15 Feb 2023, 9:37 pm

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And not-so-good looking people can be "happier, more intelligent, healthier, etc....."

Some of the oldest people ever weren't renowned for their looks.


Some ppl transcend the mainstream definition of being successful/happy.
Personal growth is more important than public acclamation, period.
Some get it...
And some don't... 8)



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15 Feb 2023, 9:49 pm

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It's also easier to be confident around the opposite sex if you're hot, and I think there's a reason for that.

Let's face it, rejection from friends and romantic prospects sucks. Someone who has been good looking from puberty and beyond not only has more success with attracting a mate, but they get rejected less often. As a result, their confidence and their self-image doesn't get as badly beaten down. It's also a lot easier to be confident when you know that you can make friends and find a partner quite easily.


The opposite is true when you grow up ugly and autistic. From a young age, you are romantically and socially ostracized by other people. If this happens consistently, it results in self image, and confidence taking a nosedive. This results in a negative feedback loop. Girls don't like you because you're not confident enough to approach them, but you're not confident enough to approach them because romantic rejection is all you've ever known.


I am not generalising here:

Ppl who have it easy often lack a depth of character because things do come easy.
They can also be clueless about the struggles of ordinary ppl, and lack empathy as a result.
Some become arrogant and narcissistic.
The "good" thing is they often couple with similar superficial ppl.

As I indicated, not all physically gifted ppl are like this, of course.
That is where "personality" comes into play.



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15 Feb 2023, 11:40 pm

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ironpony wrote:
This makes sense. But you when it comes to guys online who complain about not ever getting any women, you never see them with their hair slicked back and throwing a suit jacket over their shoulder in a confident way for example, if that kind of look and demeanor would help?


I think slicked back hair is kind of icky.

I don’t like suit jackets, either. They conjure up bad memories.

People should probably avoid trying too hard when it comes to hair and clothes and should probably focus more on finding opportunities to meet new people.


Oh okay. So you just want more of a natural beauty of man then?



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15 Feb 2023, 11:53 pm

Where exactly did she say anything like that?

What is a natural beauty of man?

Do you think we're all crazed or something?


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15 Feb 2023, 11:56 pm

Oh no, it's just that it was said that slicked back hair can look greasy or a suit jacket can look like a guy is trying to hard so I was just wondering what in a guy women find goodlooking therefore.



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16 Feb 2023, 12:23 am

Speaking of physical attractiveness, my sister is a good example of someone who benefits from being attractive.

Ever since puberty, she has been considered beautiful and has never been single for longer than a few months. She'd break up with someone and find a new guy with the snap of a finger. In fact, she got divorced recently and got a boyfriend within just a month of finalizing the divorce papers.


This is in contrast to me, a short scrawny nerd growing up who has dating on Dark Souls level difficulty. I think that I have a better personality and am a more well rounded person than my sister is, but because she's a young attractive blonde, she could always find a new guy pretty quick.



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16 Feb 2023, 12:28 am

^

It sounds pretty sad to me.
She's having serial partners and got a divorce.
It sounds like she's finding men who aren't really compatible.
Do you think that's better than being single? Why?


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16 Feb 2023, 12:29 am

Muse933277 wrote:
Speaking of physical attractiveness, my sister is a good example of someone who benefits from being attractive.

Ever since puberty, she has been considered beautiful and has never been single for longer than a few months. She'd break up with someone and find a new guy with the snap of a finger. In fact, she got divorced recently and got a boyfriend within just a month of finalizing the divorce papers.


This is in contrast to me, a short scrawny nerd growing up who has dating on Dark Souls level difficulty. I think that I have a better personality and am a more well rounded person than my sister is, but because she's a young attractive blonde, she could always find a new guy pretty quick.


My grandpappy skunk used to say:
"Most relationships are superficial." 8)



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16 Feb 2023, 1:55 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
That may be true, but that's not the same as Muse's comment saying pretty women should be happy because they can make porn accounts and allow horny men who love them for their looks to support them financially. Good looking people can indeed be "happier, more successful, wealthier, healthier, and more intelligent" without exploiting themselves or being vulnerable to cyberstalkers and any other people who are lured to them by their looks.


If you are talking why attractive young women sell videos/livestream of their bodies/time online on onlyfans to thousands (sometimes millions) of men from around the world becoming famous solely for being pretty?

Because it's the easiest way to become rich and famous. Some of these women simply sit in their underwear playing video games and get millions of fans/subscribers. No skills, competencies other than having a webcam.



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16 Feb 2023, 2:05 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
^

It sounds pretty sad to me.
She's having serial partners and got a divorce.
It sounds like she's finding men who aren't really compatible.
Do you think that's better than being single? Why?



There's advantages and disadvantages.

Yes, finding relationships was wayyyyyyy easier for her than it was for me. But, because I was chronically single, I had to find other ways to be happy in life and I think that's one reason why I am a more well rounded person. For example, I play sports, I play music, I have a wide array of hobbies and interests, and these are things I may have not had time for if I were dating all the time and was married with a kid.


My sister on the other hand, has been reliant on men for almost her whole life and her looks allowed her to get away with it. Plus she got into some toxic and abusive relationships and that's also a disadvantage of dating all the time and something I've never had to deal with.


As much as it sucks being chronically single at times, at least I don't have to deal with a toxic marriage, and if I want to travel and move somewhere else, i'm not tied down to a partner to prevent that from happening.



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16 Feb 2023, 2:21 am

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I like messy hair and I have no problem with casual or dishevelled clothes.
I never even heard the term "neckbeard" until I came here.
Then, it was men using the term to insult other men.

Facial hair is good.
I'm still not sure what neckbeard means, nor do I care.

i am one such, most of my beard growth is on my neck, that is a sign of insufficient testosterone in the womb as well as in puberty. it is a literal pain in the neck to shave when one is a neck beard.



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16 Feb 2023, 2:37 am

some (most, as its a generalised situation) are easily fooled by looks,
if it wasn't so why bother with all the painting of extenal markers, it's even got to suits of heads that it's only the dramatised markers that mark the real thing :P :P

fighting against the "perfect pixels"
as it delivers delusional perception,
mind you the industry has a perfect-pixel-toy to sell to you
or pink glasses, :mrgreen: :ninja:



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16 Feb 2023, 6:55 am

ironpony wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
ironpony wrote:
This makes sense. But you when it comes to guys online who complain about not ever getting any women, you never see them with their hair slicked back and throwing a suit jacket over their shoulder in a confident way for example, if that kind of look and demeanor would help?


I think slicked back hair is kind of icky.

I don’t like suit jackets, either. They conjure up bad memories.

People should probably avoid trying too hard when it comes to hair and clothes and should probably focus more on finding opportunities to meet new people.


Oh okay. So you just want more of a natural beauty of man then?


I’m saying that IMO appearance doesn’t matter that much and I think people should focus more on other things. I wouldn’t turn someone down if they had slicked back hair, and I liked them.

I think it’s smart to find opportunities to get to know new people. Acquaintances can turn into friendships and friendships can turn into something more.

I wouldn’t date some random person who asked me out even if he was considered a perfect 10.

People like different things.

It should be said that most people, even those who many would consider physically unattractive, can find someone. Being a good person can make a person attractive.


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