If you're 27 and never had a girlfriend, is it too late?

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chilidsh = friend/sibling. you need to be a parent. the one in charge not an equal to them. you have to punish them and tell them no. I have seen tons of younger couples without kids are are playful, then they stop when have kids. it all changes. just like you can't have that relationship you had when you were 7 when you are 20.

97% of women I've seen are not playful they are all serious. but women in their early 20s are still playful and like teenagers. they take life less seriously. women in their late 20s -30 are all about seroius, having multiple jobs, paying bills, saving for a house and family. blah.

I want a teenage style relationship to start with. I want to joke around and be playful, build blanket forts, tickle each other, chase each other around then tackle and cuddle.

thats not what I'm saying. I want both with the same woman. I would love to and my dream would be the first woman i date becoming my wife. I would be find only having one relationship. it would be ideal for me. From what I've seen its very rare that happens though.

I do? Then I must have failed miserably as a parent.

I don't buy this NT-crap, and it is this kind of behavior with neurodiverse children that creates children that are uncontrollable, because they won't accept your authority, and there is nothing you can do to force them (other than hit them, which is not legal here at least).



No doubt NTs.

There is no "you can't have", only "you shouldn't have according to cultural norms", so it is all up to you not to buy the cultural norms set by NTs.



This doesn't go well with your idea that your first gf will become your wife, because what differs between teens and older women is not only seriousness, but mainly willingness to commit. So if you go for teens, don't expect it to last for long, because part of their "playfulness" is that they are only playing with guys as well in order to gain experience, so they don't want to commit to anything serious.



I see no reason why you cannot have this with a woman of any age.

disagree its all the I'm your equal do what you want, you're all number 1, never get punished that makes kids don't respect authority and be uncontrollable. then they grow up and committ crimes because they think lifes all about them and they can do whatever they want. I was punished. my mom did not and does not act like my equal. I am good law abiding citizen who cares about others more then myself.

nope, everyone, this isn't a nt only thing.

they'll grow up and out of being playful. if you grow up with them then you stay committed. but no as I said. very very very few people end up married to their first gf.

I'm playful and thats not true. I'm just silly and playful and I find that really attractive in women. I'm not talking about play mind games.

because women of older ages don't want it anymore,they got it when they were younger and filled up now they want a serious relationship. they want a grown ass man, not a kid. well being silly and playful are considered childish. grown ass men are not playful or silly. they dont' get into water gun fights or hide fart cushions. they don't have stuff animals, they don't goof off, they go to work 8+ hours a day, come home work on the yard/car/house, talk about serious stuff help kids with homework then repeat.

look around do people have the same style relations they did as 16 year old that they do as a 35 year old? no.

well I'm not nore do I want to be a grown ass man. I like my inner child. I like being playful. you only find that in younger women.

so its too late for me now. i needed to have a relationship when in highschool or my early 20s where such a personality is accepted and normal. now woemn reject it saying its childish and they want a real man.

same here, I got this quote from a Female Dating Coach for both women and men, but I think she works with men mostly, this is what she said:

"When women reach a certain age… Usually, after they graduate from college, they reach the point where most of us have dated a lot of guys and we are fed up with dating “little boys” – we are ready to date a REAL Man!"

"If you want a woman to have an image of you as being an immature “little boy,” then go ahead and be that guy who is flaky, forgetful, breaks his promises and commitments frequently, and is hard to count on. Women may overlook things like that when they’re younger, but most women who are in their mid-20s and older are fed up with dating little boys and are turned off quickly by a guy who shows he is unreliable".

That sucks for us older guys

OK, but if this is true (which it might be for NT women), it means that if you are like a "little boy", even if your gf initially likes you that way, she will dump you when she leaves college. So you cannot have a wife that likes you as a "little boy", you need to become a real man. Do you want such a wife? Remember that it is your choice, you don't have to accept this kind of behavior. Since not all women are like that, it makes it a real choice. You can chose a woman that like playfulness and "little boy" traits (except being irresponsible, which you don't want to be) that has left college so you know she is unlikely to change into one that wants a "real man".

Disagree. If you explain rules so the can understand them, you never need to use authority, and you can be friends with your kids, not some controlling monster.



My kids (20 and 22 years old) are both law-abiding citizens, and in addition to that, we are still best friends, unlike many control freaks that never, ever, will reach that state.



It is a NT thing. ND children need you to explain rules, while NT children will be content with you saying "no". In fact, this differs little when they become adults, as many ND people dislike hierarchy and authority.



I cannot see how playful doesn't include playing mind games. It's connected. You do know that role playing (which include mind games) is a ND trait?? You get that for free with many ND girls, regardless of age.



All NT-stuff. You do know that many adult NDs have stuff animals, are childish and like silly pranks? You seem to be like that at age 27, so why don't you think ND women couldn't?



Yes. I do.



It seems like somebody have fooled you into believing that people always need to "grow-up" in a set order. First you get friends, then you date in your teens, and finally you get kids in your 30s, right? If you miss one of these "milestones", you are forever doomed if you cannot achieve it at 27, right? Wrong. It doesn't work like that. I never had any friends, I never dated as a teen, yet I married around 30 and got kids.

Everyone went college but me

No wonder I have trouble with girls. I missed the most vital step. The part where I learn employable skills by day and girl skills by night.

They're not milestones, they're signs that you're an acquired taste and it won't easy for you to find someone compatible. It may take a while or it may not happen at all.

I'm following this topic and find people depressing. I visited a historic house in Nashville where the man got married at 53 and had 3 children. I'm 53 now. Different people travel different paths and have different experiences. Your experiences are not necessarily ant worse or better than anyone elses. I certainly have not given up hope. One thing that attracts people is a positive attitude. You guys certainly aren't going to find a relationship if you keep being downers.

I imagine the likelihood of getting into a relationship probably decreases with age the longer you go without, some might find somebody at an older age but others won't. Its depressing that so many of us seem destined to be alone, you can hold out hope until the end but if nothing ever comes of it then it seems just like one big waste of time.

I don't understand the fixation on drama and ruining the earth with more overpopulation. Relationships are for insecure people.

My partner and I spend a lot of our time together playing silly boardgames, writing each other silly texts, saying silly things, and anything else fun and playful. We are in our mid thirties and don't plan to stop the fun any time soon.


I don't know, I don't follow couples into their homes and watch what fun they get up to in private.

mind game example. liking a guy , but telling him, you hate him. flirting with him but anytime he talks to you insulting him and saying you hate him. . no thanks. or wanting one thing but doing another thing. thats not playful playful is playing tag, hide and seek, being silly, making forts, gooffing off etc with your spouse. I don't play mind games. but I am very playful.

I don't want a ND girl. they aren't very nice and cuddly. though nt and nd women seem to be very similar except the nd will have problems socializing. aspergers is a social disorder it makes socializing hard. doesn't mean they won't be like nts in other ways.

in general men are simi expected to be childish, men mature slower then women so its socially expected for women to be more mature.

no . one is doomed to never get the teenage relationship. you could still though unlikely get married and have kids ans have an responsible/serious adult relationship. but thats not the kind of relationship I desire. one day after having the youthful one yes, but I want the youthful one first.

but you've already said you're not like most women. so that doesn't help me as you're already taken and never would dated me anyways. I've found a few 25-28 women who were playful they had many many suitors and as such rejected me. I'm not the only guy who wants playful woman. I assume most men do. most women though aren't and don't want a playful guy. I wonder why this is. why such a large gap in compatible mates. perhaps because playful and silly guys make poor protectors and providers?

No wonder you struggle to find a decent girl who likes you, when you have these opinions of them. You want an NT woman who is playful and wants a playful partner, and you believe there are very few of these. Your views on women really do restrict your options and chances.