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05 Aug 2015, 6:23 pm

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No, I posted that as an example of why you shouldn't make assumptions about how "hard" someone's life is by only taking into account arbitrary, subjective criteria (like, say, their sex).

It's like how I don't assume white humans with penises have an awesome life on easy street because of nonsense like "male privilege."


ok I wasn't sure, sorry.

just some women here and elsewhere will use the women get abused as why women have it worse, like men don't get abused.

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05 Aug 2015, 6:25 pm

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It's all a matter of perspective. Men look at life thinking "must have sex" even if it's on a subconscious level. And get frustrated when they are rejected. Therefore, they may assume that a woman has it easier because all she has to do is make herself available. But completely ignoring the fact that women don't tend to be wired up in quite so simple terms, having to deal with consequences that men don't.



assumptions... generalizations :( .




Judgemental.....arrogant.

No actually, it's an opinion. I Believe lots of people have them.


you're the one judging by saying men only want sex and care about sex, how do you possible think saying thats not true is judgmental?



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06 Aug 2015, 12:44 am

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again it don't care that women are getting work just that they complain and won't date men who cant' get work because they have it. seems like wanting your cake and eat it too(i don't really get this saying) they can't have everything. they can't have great paying jobs and demand a guy with the same or better paying job. there's only so many of those jobs to go around. so if they look around and only see women working those jobs how do they expect men to have them without those women or themselves losing the job first. :roll:

That's an interesting topic. I think there's some truth in what you're saying. Recently the number of women attending colleges started to increase and that obviously contributes to their position in the job market. Decreasing wage gap for younger women in cities supports this.



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07 Aug 2015, 1:41 pm

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Guys have it harder......



Even a Canadian Dating Coach/Guru for Men, named Frank Kermit, he mainly helps guys lose their virginity, he says he has worked and known men in their 40's and some even 50's who are still a virgin, this is what he said:

"Women are generally on the receiving end of sexual attention, requests for dating and relationships while men are on the projecting end. It is easier for a woman to date more than men, because as long as she is willing to accept among the men that approach her, ask her out, she can date or have a relationship if she wants to.

A man must actively pursue, initiate, escalate, and if he has any negative experiences that deter him, or if he is just very very shy, socially-awkward he could end up an adult male virgin very easily, and the Irony is that the older he gets, the more women become turned off and refuse to give him a chance because of his inexperience"

and this guy in this video sums it all up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SlnIVDFso





































..... because I said so. :lol: /trolling



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08 Aug 2015, 3:39 am

314pe wrote:
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again it don't care that women are getting work just that they complain and won't date men who cant' get work because they have it. seems like wanting your cake and eat it too(i don't really get this saying) they can't have everything. they can't have great paying jobs and demand a guy with the same or better paying job. there's only so many of those jobs to go around. so if they look around and only see women working those jobs how do they expect men to have them without those women or themselves losing the job first. :roll:

That's an interesting topic. I think there's some truth in what you're saying. Recently the number of women attending colleges started to increase and that obviously contributes to their position in the job market. Decreasing wage gap for younger women in cities supports this.


yep more women then men go to college. most the people in my classes until I went into auto classes were women.
probably 2/3 of them were women.

I don't care about that though good for them. I would encourage any gf I had if I had one to go to college and get a degree and better herself. wouldn't' bother me if she chose not to though.

anyways the only problem is like I said, the math don't' add up. there's limited jobs in that wage range and up. the higher the wage the less jobs there is.

but as more and more women get higher paying jobs and more and more men get lower paying jobs if jobs at all. the whole men must make more is going to cause serious problems for women.Its a hold over from times when women didn't work and were housewife's. the same time where all the sexism against women came from. women have worked hard to get rid of that sexism against women, but left and support the sexism against men ie by judging men by their income and male stereotypes. we wont' have true equality til both sides of the coin are gotten rid of.



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08 Aug 2015, 4:10 am

sly279 wrote:
but as more and more women get higher paying jobs and more and more men get lower paying jobs if jobs at all. the whole men must make more is going to cause serious problems for women.Its a hold over from times when women didn't work and were housewife's. the same time where all the sexism against women came from. women have worked hard to get rid of that sexism against women, but left and support the sexism against men ie by judging men by their income and male stereotypes. we wont' have true equality til both sides of the coin are gotten rid of.


These aren't stereotypes, they are preferences from the evolutionary past. Men have been pressured to work on this and today are actually fighting their preferences, but women never have been pressured to do the same, which will cause them a lot of problems in the relationship area. So, it is not something people can "get rid of", rather something both sides needs to fight against with pressure from culture. Since the human mating system is an intricate balance, you cannot just change a little here and there and hope for it to still function well. You especially cannot change things in one gender and not the other, as that is sure to tip the balance in a way that will make the whole system malfunctioning.



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08 Aug 2015, 6:10 am

from a subjective point of view..

there is a girl who works at the local supermarket who is about 25 or so and who looks like kylie minogue but she has purple frizzy hair and she seems to always be trying to snare my attention when i am there.

i simply go to the supermarket to obtain goods that i desire to acquire, and that is quality of my tunnel vision when i go to the supermarket, but she seems always to position herself in my view field and seems to be the one who serves me when i get to the counter.

it is a small supermarket and she is often the only cashier and she is also often stacking the racks when i am browsing. there are never more than one or 2 other customers in the shop when i go there.

she has sometimes foisted herself on me and i have been taken by surprise. when i ask her for advice about a product, she goes into "hyperdrive" and is very efficient and informative almost to the point of exaggeration.

recently,i approached the checkout counter with 2 products of which i intended to buy one. i asked her if she knew what the difference between "silvo" and "brasso" (the 2 alternative metal polishes i brought to the counter) were in relation to brushed aluminium hubcaps, and she suddenly sat up on the counter and swung her legs toward me and sidled over to my side of the counter on her buttocks and positioned herself in a posture as if she was posing for a photoshoot and she then read the instructions and tried to engage me in a discussion as to what i should buy, and whilst i was happy with her attention to service, i was nevertheless taken aback with her physical proximity to me and her posture so i just bought the one she suggested and left immediately.

the next time i saw her after that, it was as if she never saw me before and she did not act amorous in any way, and i was relieved and went about my business and left.

then when i saw her the next time, i asked her why they were not selling white onions, and i offered the possible explanation that they may not be in season, and she siezed upon that and went off into a tirade about onions and how hard they are to source and whatever and she was breathing on me and i again felt uncomfortable.

i have not seen her since then (yesterday (because i have not been to the shop)) but i wonder if she is feeling some kind of worry or something because she seems to be trying to get to know me and i have been not interested and maybe it affects her in some way.

i do not want to be rude to her because i like her, but she gets overpowering in her eagerness to involve herself with me when i ask her about things and she seems annoyed when i enter and leave the shop without interacting with her, so i suspect my actions may not be as sterile as i consider them to be.

i do not know how this ties in with the OP's topic



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08 Aug 2015, 10:15 am

Well...it's of an illustration of how pretty girls might experience difficulty with finding the guy they really want.

I, myself, wouldn't mind a 25-year-old girl with purple hair offering me her attentions. :wink:



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08 Aug 2015, 10:39 am

I think I'd feel like crap in a situation like that, especially when I was about her age. I'd read that body language as, "See? I'm such a sex goddess I can get you to buy anything, and completely subjugate your will if I want to. Ha, ha, you sorry puny thing! Try ever so hard, you can't deny your frustrated desire I so easily provoke with a simple gesture like casually sitting here this way. You're a hypocrite and a coward, it shows, and you'll never raise any genuine interest in a woman, let alone one as desirable as me."


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08 Aug 2015, 11:03 am

No it's just that if a woman is abusing a man out in public, then no one gives a f**k. Besides he must have deserved it right?







But if a man is beating up a woman, HOLY s**t! HE'S HITTING HER! And the crowd starts freaking out!






Women make the best crooks too. Who the hell is going to believe my granny or my mom would steal? They're more likely to get away with it. And if anyone hits them, some white knight will come to their rescue. Women make the best criminals.



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08 Aug 2015, 2:05 pm

WantToHaveALife wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Guys have it harder......



Even a Canadian Dating Coach/Guru for Men, named Frank Kermit, he mainly helps guys lose their virginity, he says he has worked and known men in their 40's and some even 50's who are still a virgin, this is what he said:

"Women are generally on the receiving end of sexual attention, requests for dating and relationships while men are on the projecting end. It is easier for a woman to date more than men, because as long as she is willing to accept among the men that approach her, ask her out, she can date or have a relationship if she wants to.

A man must actively pursue, initiate, escalate, and if he has any negative experiences that deter him, or if he is just very very shy, socially-awkward he could end up an adult male virgin very easily, and the Irony is that the older he gets, the more women become turned off and refuse to give him a chance because of his inexperience"

and this guy in this video sums it all up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91SlnIVDFso





































..... because I said so. :lol: /trolling


just view the video link I posted and it will say it all



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08 Aug 2015, 5:13 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Well...it's of an illustration of how pretty girls might experience difficulty with finding the guy they really want.

I, myself, wouldn't mind a 25-year-old girl with purple hair offering me her attentions. :wink:


yeah what he said sounded nice, though I don't know if I would see that as interested in me if I was him. but reading it seems like she is right? o.O

her climbing over the counter like that sounds scary.

also if she is intersted why not just ask him out or sayit.o.O



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08 Aug 2015, 5:20 pm

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..... because I said so. :lol: /trolling
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just view the video link I posted and it will say it all[/quote]


here fixed:



What he's saying is 100% true.



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08 Aug 2015, 5:40 pm

Guys who think that the fear of getting mugged is equal to the fear of getting raped are part of the same #YesAllWomen v. #NotAllMen problem.

There's no such thing as date-mugged.

Date-rape is pervasive.

And to those who call it paranoia:

Thanks for invalidating the experiences of survivors and the feelings of the rest of #YesAllWomen.

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Saying that "x" is worse than "y" does not cause "y" to be "not a problem," even if you could prove that "x" is worse than "y."

It's all entirely subjective.

What Oman5 said:

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Men look at life thinking "must have sex" even if it's on a subconscious level. And get frustrated when they are rejected. Therefore, they may assume that a woman has it easier because all she has to do is make herself available. But completely ignoring the fact that women don't tend to be wired up in quite so simple terms, having to deal with consequences that men don't.


Makes a lot more sense to me than all the ForeverAlone whining going on by several other male posters, and a lot more sense than trolling. All those males thinking "must have sex," what are they thinking, that what your average woman wants is exactly the same as what they want, and since they can get it without effort, they have life free and easy? Clue: there's more to life than getting sex. The sooner you learn to tell the little head that it isn't in charge, the sooner you'll free yourself to pursue things that actually matter a lot more than getting laid. Getting laid is not the be-all and end-all of human existence. If it were, human women would do like female spiders and mantises do: bite your one-track-mind heads off as soon as we get pregnant so we don't have to worry about chauvanistic control-freakiness. It is not fun to have men act like they own you for life if you've had sex with them once, either. Nor is it fun to deal with the attitude some men have that if a woman is not a virgin, she's a slut.


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08 Aug 2015, 9:14 pm

Girls have it much worse because they face more social stigma than we men do, they also have mood swings, etc, getting pressured by other women and men.


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09 Aug 2015, 4:33 am

LyraLuthTinu wrote:
All those males thinking "must have sex," what are they thinking, that what your average woman wants is exactly the same as what they want, and since they can get it without effort, they have life free and easy? Clue: there's more to life than getting sex. The sooner you learn to tell the little head that it isn't in charge, the sooner you'll free yourself to pursue things that actually matter a lot more than getting laid.


So you don't want us to tell you what you should want, but have no qualms about telling us what matters in our lives?

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Getting laid is not the be-all and end-all of human existence.


It is to me and you won't change my mind by shaming me.

LyraLuthTinu wrote:
If it were, human women would do like female spiders and mantises do: bite your one-track-mind heads off as soon as we get pregnant so we don't have to worry about chauvanistic control-freakiness. It is not fun to have men act like they own you for life if you've had sex with them once, either. Nor is it fun to deal with the attitude some men have that if a woman is not a virgin, she's a slut.


Because, clearly, any man you might have sex with will necessarily behave that way, right? Talk about sexist generalizations :roll:


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