Why do girls want cocky, arrogant guys?
I don't CONSTANTLY think about having sex with my friends who are ladies. But I do think about it. Especially when I'm not around them. When I'm around them, I don't tend to think about having sex with them.
Many, many, MANY times, friendship leads to romance. A little more rarely, but not too rarely, romance leads back to friendship.
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Rationally I would expect there might be several thousands of "opportunities"(This is without any positive indicators reinforcing them as opportunities) over the course of a lifetime if one were to reduce it to a numbers game.
Have been rejected over a hundred times. People like us need to look in different places, not conventional NT-places because that doesn't work. Be specific in what you are looking for. I myself am not looking anymore but if a woman shows interest in me one day, accepts me for who I am and genuinely likes me, I am open to that of course.
Most people I have known who are in long-term successful relationships met that way, friendship and then falling for each other. No dating sites or anything.
Best thing is to not look at all, surround yourself always with some women so it can happen and see if one shows interest in you. Do your own thing and just be yourself.
I was with family when this happened
Am laughing so hard right now
Try thousands
I don’t have what most single women want, which is a well off guy with his life together. That’s a desire with most women nt or not
Then you'll have to get those things that women want or remain alone.
Girls don't want cocky, arrogant guys, they want confident employed guys.
I know it seems unfair if you can't get those things but but not everyone is destined to have a partner. Instead you can live a fulfilling life as a bachelor rather than worrying about the things you don't have.
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And because biology:
8,000 YEARS AGO, 17 WOMEN REPRODUCED FOR EVERY ONE MAN
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-r ... ve-success
I am sure the nice and passive guys back then weren't among the ones who reproduced.
8,000 YEARS AGO, 17 WOMEN REPRODUCED FOR EVERY ONE MAN
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-r ... ve-success
I am sure the nice and passive guys back then weren't among the ones who reproduced.
There is so much wrong with that study. I think we know pretty well that marriage has been an institution for at least 2,000 years, but probably a lot longer. When marriage is the norm, there cannot be a huge discrepancy in how many females & males reproduce. Thus, their method is simply as invalid as is their results. The mutational load on mtDNA vs the Y-chromosome cannot predict differential reproductive success.
For a good article on romantic love and pair-bonding, and how this is an evolutionary trait in humans aimed to solve the problem of extended childhood see for example this: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10. ... 1614561683. And this is not a trait that evolved just a few thousands of years ago, rather it is in the order of millions of years old.
Besides, if the nice and passive guys failed to reproduce for thousands of years, I'm sure they would no longer exist. Since they do, this assertion is simply false.
8,000 YEARS AGO, 17 WOMEN REPRODUCED FOR EVERY ONE MAN
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-r ... ve-success
I am sure the nice and passive guys back then weren't among the ones who reproduced.
This is just it. Men are “designed” to spread their seed. More men spreading their seed, and the biological desperation to, the more competition there is.
Women however are “designed” to want healthy offspring built to survive.
Nothing anyone can really do about it except meet as many people as possible. Dating sites don’t count.
If real life women really aren’t interested, I don’t see why dating site women would be.
A more balanced “design” would be 17 women per one man. But who am I to play god?
Boo said 8000.
Not only. Quote from the study:
That's clearly invalid because of marriage and forced pair-bonding.
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Women are the connoisseurs of life, they want different flavors. They want to try all kinds of men until they hit 'the wall' and want to settle down.
Right now they don't want you but later on after they realize exciting boys are not good family men and father figures they come seeking you out because you will provide stability and financial security.
Thats why many kind men are upset today because they have figured it out and they realize they are being used and that the woman settles for them once the womans options grow thin and she's not as desired as she once was when young.
This kind of attitude and value system of females makes it so that kind guys with their morals and ethics in check don't get to experience the same thrills the women do and later have to settle for 28-32 year old women who have been having constant intercourse and had their fun and time to figure out themselves and their sexuality. While kind men raised and shaped by their mothers and strict surroundings think they have been lead correctly into adult hood but in reality have been damaged and crippled by older women who have told them to act propper and be good little soldiers all their lives.
When i was young i had only older women around me who would tell me how to act but luckily at around 14 i got this epiphany and realized what women truly want. They want a man who is his own and acts from his own instincts, a woman DOES NOT want a boy/man defiled and shaped by other women, women HATE what other women have "touched". Taht's why obeying good little soldier boys think they will get their share, but the share has to be taken, and good little boys "wait" for it in for of politeness, kindness and blind respect towards women who dont deserve it or give a flying rats ass about your catering. Women dont want to be catered to or put on pedestals. They just want to be impressed by your own sense of direction in life, and when they see you got yourself figured out they will cling to you.
Im so glad i figured this out when young because now I have had lots of sex and met different women and know exactly what type of woman or man (I'm BI) is the right match for me.
If a woman gets with a man who is inexperienced but has a thick wallet she has the advantage over him and can starve him of sex and affection, and while being married she can have lovers on the side and even have sex with you very seldom then get pregnant by other men she favors and make you raise them, and you will be to naive and inexperienced and afraid to ask questions so she will have security but get affection from other men and even children that you will raise.
Women simply want to have their cake and eat it too, and they get this through manipulation, deception and lies.
Not all women of course. But if she has more experience and allows herself more then she can play you in the directions she sees fit/benefit her.
I dont want to make you guys paranoid but get out there and demand coloseness and affection and NEVER let any woman shame you for wanting sex. It is unwise to try to settle down at an early age and have a girlfriend, young people should experiment and find out what they want in a partner then at 25-27-28 start settling down and having a family. Don't waste your teens having a girlfriend for 2-4 years just to later find out your were together for stupid reasons. Find what you like and experiment until you find it, then settle down and you will know what your type and match is.
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I think I disagree with everything above.
First, I find experience to be pretty useless, and people that are only fooling around for experience are worthless partners because they won't settle down even if they find a perfect match. It's a case of "I'll stay with you until something better comes along", and that is simply worthless for a long-term relationship (and even for a shorter one to).
Second, I wouldn't even think about settling down with somebody that lived the "experience life-style" and now is feeling her biological clock ticking. A girl that once wasn't relationship material won't become relationship material as she ages and becomes desperate. She deserves singlehood after having played that game, so don't settle for her.
Third, sexual experience with many partners isn't worth anything. The only thing that is worth anything in that area is extraordinary experiences with a single long-term partner. By having all that experience, people just get more and more demanding which, on average, will give lower satisfaction with a new partner.
Right now they don't want you but later on after they realize exciting boys are not good family men and father figures they come seeking you out because you will provide stability and financial security.
Thats why many kind men are upset today because they have figured it out and they realize they are being used and that the woman settles for them once the womans options grow thin and she's not as desired as she once was when young.
This kind of attitude and value system of females makes it so that kind guys with their morals and ethics in check don't get to experience the same thrills the women do and later have to settle for 28-32 year old women who have been having constant intercourse and had their fun and time to figure out themselves and their sexuality. While kind men raised and shaped by their mothers and strict surroundings think they have been lead correctly into adult hood but in reality have been damaged and crippled by older women who have told them to act propper and be good little soldiers all their lives.
When i was young i had only older women around me who would tell me how to act but luckily at around 14 i got this epiphany and realized what women truly want. They want a man who is his own and acts from his own instincts, a woman DOES NOT want a boy/man defiled and shaped by other women, women HATE what other women have "touched". Taht's why obeying good little soldier boys think they will get their share, but the share has to be taken, and good little boys "wait" for it in for of politeness, kindness and blind respect towards women who dont deserve it or give a flying rats ass about your catering. Women dont want to be catered to or put on pedestals. They just want to be impressed by your own sense of direction in life, and when they see you got yourself figured out they will cling to you.
Im so glad i figured this out when young because now I have had lots of sex and met different women and know exactly what type of woman or man (I'm BI) is the right match for me.
If a woman gets with a man who is inexperienced but has a thick wallet she has the advantage over him and can starve him of sex and affection, and while being married she can have lovers on the side and even have sex with you very seldom then get pregnant by other men she favors and make you raise them, and you will be to naive and inexperienced and afraid to ask questions so she will have security but get affection from other men and even children that you will raise.
Women simply want to have their cake and eat it too, and they get this through manipulation, deception and lies.
Not all women of course. But if she has more experience and allows herself more then she can play you in the directions she sees fit/benefit her.
I dont want to make you guys paranoid but get out there and demand coloseness and affection and NEVER let any woman shame you for wanting sex. It is unwise to try to settle down at an early age and have a girlfriend, young people should experiment and find out what they want in a partner then at 25-27-28 start settling down and having a family. Don't waste your teens having a girlfriend for 2-4 years just to later find out your were together for stupid reasons. Find what you like and experiment until you find it, then settle down and you will know what your type and match is.
Um. What? Do people actually think this way? Try to imagine the radical idea that women are people too, with the same basic desires as men, but just like men, are unique individuals figuring it out as they go. Guys, knock off of this pervasive self-serving gender generalization that I see so often in these forums.
The only thing you have right is to drop the pretensions and just be yourself... but for God's sake, treat women like people.
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8,000 YEARS AGO, 17 WOMEN REPRODUCED FOR EVERY ONE MAN
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-r ... ve-success
I am sure the nice and passive guys back then weren't among the ones who reproduced.
So that was why they invented marriage. To keep the other 16 men single.
I'm fairly certain monogamy was invented a long time after marriage.
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Right now they don't want you but later on after they realize exciting boys are not good family men and father figures they come seeking you out because you will provide stability and financial security.
Thats why many kind men are upset today because they have figured it out and they realize they are being used and that the woman settles for them once the womans options grow thin and she's not as desired as she once was when young.
This kind of attitude and value system of females makes it so that kind guys with their morals and ethics in check don't get to experience the same thrills the women do and later have to settle for 28-32 year old women who have been having constant intercourse and had their fun and time to figure out themselves and their sexuality. While kind men raised and shaped by their mothers and strict surroundings think they have been lead correctly into adult hood but in reality have been damaged and crippled by older women who have told them to act propper and be good little soldiers all their lives.
When i was young i had only older women around me who would tell me how to act but luckily at around 14 i got this epiphany and realized what women truly want. They want a man who is his own and acts from his own instincts, a woman DOES NOT want a boy/man defiled and shaped by other women, women HATE what other women have "touched". Taht's why obeying good little soldier boys think they will get their share, but the share has to be taken, and good little boys "wait" for it in for of politeness, kindness and blind respect towards women who dont deserve it or give a flying rats ass about your catering. Women dont want to be catered to or put on pedestals. They just want to be impressed by your own sense of direction in life, and when they see you got yourself figured out they will cling to you.
Im so glad i figured this out when young because now I have had lots of sex and met different women and know exactly what type of woman or man (I'm BI) is the right match for me.
If a woman gets with a man who is inexperienced but has a thick wallet she has the advantage over him and can starve him of sex and affection, and while being married she can have lovers on the side and even have sex with you very seldom then get pregnant by other men she favors and make you raise them, and you will be to naive and inexperienced and afraid to ask questions so she will have security but get affection from other men and even children that you will raise.
Women simply want to have their cake and eat it too, and they get this through manipulation, deception and lies.
Not all women of course. But if she has more experience and allows herself more then she can play you in the directions she sees fit/benefit her.
I dont want to make you guys paranoid but get out there and demand coloseness and affection and NEVER let any woman shame you for wanting sex. It is unwise to try to settle down at an early age and have a girlfriend, young people should experiment and find out what they want in a partner then at 25-27-28 start settling down and having a family. Don't waste your teens having a girlfriend for 2-4 years just to later find out your were together for stupid reasons. Find what you like and experiment until you find it, then settle down and you will know what your type and match is.
Um. What? Do people actually think this way? Try to imagine the radical idea that women are people too, with the same basic desires as men, but just like men, are unique individuals figuring it out as they go. Guys, knock off of this pervasive self-serving gender generalization that I see so often in these forums.
The only thing you have right is to drop the pretensions and just be yourself... but for God's sake, treat women like people.
Women like to be treated in a designed way where they set the ground rules.
They often lose interest because women chase that something special, they will just put you in a friend category.
Ive been around many woman and desired by many woman, I know what women want. They simply want what they want. And their tastes change as time goes by. That why I call them connoisseurs of life, but when they get older they realize they don't have access to that "table of choice" they once had so they settle thus making them very very selective. So in order to get a girl that is fun and outgoing and adventurous you need to make her think you can provide all those things or "die" trying.
Ive heard this "treat women like regular people" "were not special" "we don't want to be courted" just to find out those ar all lies. You want to be made to feel special and desired.
And those who dont hunt you you desire because you want what does not look your way.
women are attracted to men who are in love with their passions
Treat women like regular people is a trap and should never be taught to a guy that that's what they want/would like.
Ive been around ive treated women like princesses and ive treated them like regular people. It doesnt matter what you do the woman is selective and she will only go for something she has chosen to be special, a guy/man who follows his passions. Thats why women LOVE artists, his love is his expression not you. And you WANT him.
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The Red Pill is so boring, basically a script for men to follow who are unable to come to terms with their own issues with communication.
It's also a fantastic money-making scam. "Buy my book and you'll have any woman you want!"
It's basically the same recruitment script for gangs, terrorist organizations, the Alt-Right, etc. Appeal to those guys who have a sense of disempowerment, who struggle with self-esteem, who want respect, prestige and status, and exploit it. It gives them a community and gives them that sense of belonging they crave.
Except that it doesn't resolve their fundamental inability to connect on an intimate level with other human beings.
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It's also a fantastic money-making scam. "Buy my book and you'll have any woman you want!"
It's basically the same recruitment script for gangs, terrorist organizations, the Alt-Right, etc. Appeal to those guys who have a sense of disempowerment, who struggle with self-esteem, who want respect, prestige and status, and exploit it. It gives them a community and gives them that sense of belonging they crave.
Except that it doesn't resolve their fundamental inability to connect on an intimate level with other human beings.
True. It's usually something like: "For just one $30 payment, gain the knowledge they don't want you to have that will enable you to have your pick of the women! CHANGE YOURSELF = CHANGE THE WORLD!!" Criminals always prey upon the most downtrodden among the people and I think sleazy & exploitative "entrepreneurs" are absolutely no different in this regard.
Although I think there might be some value in independent spirit and own sense of direction as opposed to being a guy who entirely depends on others for how to act, what values to have, etc like guy who is a sheep or else needs significant emotional support in order to actually have any notable elements of identity. Like a guy who is scared to actually be anyone or commit to any kind of beliefs/values, the guy who stands for nothing that can therefore fall for anything. A guy who essentially needs to be given a "script" to tell him how to think, how to act, basically everything and with no ability to decide anything for himself.
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