Page 28 of 45 [ 708 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 ... 45  Next

MXH
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,057
Location: Here i stand and face the rain

17 Mar 2013, 10:46 am

Wolfheart wrote:
I'm not attacking make up, I am perfectly fine with girls who wear make up and if applied correctly, it looks nice. I'm saying that when make up is used to hide imperfections instead of treating skin problems, it creates a new standard and disillusion of beauty to people that they must aim for.

It's similar to saying that you can get to the size of an IFBB professional bodybuilder by simply working out and lifting weights when they use an excessive amount of steroids and supplements to achieve that physique.


But, you are looking to get to an ifbb size by taking excessive amounts of steroids (yes I've heard specifics). So I don't get why you're here being all high and mighty when even your examples are flawed by yourself.

And you also spend more time on your looks than all the women you critique. So I'm not sure what double standard you seem to have



Lilya
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,600
Location: Finland

17 Mar 2013, 10:52 am

Wolfheart wrote:

I'm not attacking make up, I am perfectly fine with girls who wear make up and if applied correctly, it looks nice. I'm saying that when make up is used to hide imperfections instead of treating skin problems, it creates a new standard and disillusion of beauty to people that they must aim for.


Everyone is unique and some people are far more prone to acne and other skin conditions than others despite good diet, regular skin care, healthy life style etc. Also, you have to consider that male and female skin are different and separate products for the two exist for a reason; female skin is thinner and more sensitive.

I find it a far more intimidating standard that everyone is supposed to look perfect without any make up and yet is "responsible" for their own looks. A bit of bb (beauty base or beauty balm) cream or mineral make up not only protects and moisturizes one's skin, but also helps to even out the irregularities in skin tone and cover smaller imperfections.


_________________
It's not the sinful, but the stupid who are our shame - Oscar Wilde


Wolfheart
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,971
Location: Kent, England

17 Mar 2013, 10:58 am

MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
I'm not attacking make up, I am perfectly fine with girls who wear make up and if applied correctly, it looks nice. I'm saying that when make up is used to hide imperfections instead of treating skin problems, it creates a new standard and disillusion of beauty to people that they must aim for.

It's similar to saying that you can get to the size of an IFBB professional bodybuilder by simply working out and lifting weights when they use an excessive amount of steroids and supplements to achieve that physique.


But, you are looking to get to an ifbb size by taking excessive amounts of steroids (yes I've heard specifics). So I don't get why you're here being all high and mighty when even your examples are flawed by yourself.

And you also spend more time on your looks than all the women you critique. So I'm not sure what double standard you seem to have


I am not talking about make up in a creative way or for photographic shoots, I am talking about people who use it on a daily basis. I am saying that it masks the skin problems, it doesn't reduce them or treat them, it masks the flaws and that's why the contrast between seeing the before and after photos of those porn stars shows how it masks the problem.

There's also dangerous chemicals in make up and that's why I use completely natural aromatherapy and organic products.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... ke-up.html

Quote:
According to a new book, cosmetics and beauty products often contain toxic ingredients that can cause cancer and other fatal illnesses.

Loopholes in Government regulations are being exploited by manufacturers to allow banned chemicals into over-the-counter products, it claims.

Authors Kim Erickson and Samuel Epstein say many ingredients in make-up have been shown to cause cancer in animals and should never be used as part of a beauty routine.



Lilya
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,600
Location: Finland

17 Mar 2013, 10:59 am

Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Yea, I don't think he understands what freckles look like without makeup. You can easily tell the first and last are wearing enough makeup to blend the freckles into their skin a lot better than just blotches.


All three women are wearing exactly the same products as Beyonce in the above picture, such as concealer, powder, blush, eye liner, lipstick, brow pencil, eye shadow, mascara etc. and hair products. It's just been applied differently and less prominently.

I think it's already become rather clear that Wolf spends more time talking about women and exchanging a few lighthearted online messages with them rather than actually spending time with women. I also find it a bit bizarre that such a manly man who talks so strongly about naturality spends more time and beauty products daily on his appearance than I do, and I consider myself to be fairly conscious about beauty care :?


Natural products with no parabens or chemicals used in developing them, herbal aromatherapy and natural skin care products.

I order from a company called Forever Young which sell various products from chemical peels to eye serums and they all help to slow down the ageing process. Living healthy, taking antioxidants, eating healthy and working out is a lifestyle, Tom Cruise has stayed looking young through the use of organic food and products.

I recommend people to use the website as it is very good as opposed to using high street brands which have parabens in them http://www.forever-young-uk.co.uk/


I only use organic products in my skin and hair care as well, but they are still beauty products. A man of your age using anti-aging skin care products only harms his skin on longer run. I think you are getting your concepts mixed up: using the time, amount and effort with "natural" beauty products doesn't equal to you being all "natural".


_________________
It's not the sinful, but the stupid who are our shame - Oscar Wilde


Wolfheart
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,971
Location: Kent, England

17 Mar 2013, 11:14 am

Lilya wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Yea, I don't think he understands what freckles look like without makeup. You can easily tell the first and last are wearing enough makeup to blend the freckles into their skin a lot better than just blotches.


All three women are wearing exactly the same products as Beyonce in the above picture, such as concealer, powder, blush, eye liner, lipstick, brow pencil, eye shadow, mascara etc. and hair products. It's just been applied differently and less prominently.

I think it's already become rather clear that Wolf spends more time talking about women and exchanging a few lighthearted online messages with them rather than actually spending time with women. I also find it a bit bizarre that such a manly man who talks so strongly about naturality spends more time and beauty products daily on his appearance than I do, and I consider myself to be fairly conscious about beauty care :?


Natural products with no parabens or chemicals used in developing them, herbal aromatherapy and natural skin care products.

I order from a company called Forever Young which sell various products from chemical peels to eye serums and they all help to slow down the ageing process. Living healthy, taking antioxidants, eating healthy and working out is a lifestyle, Tom Cruise has stayed looking young through the use of organic food and products.

I recommend people to use the website as it is very good as opposed to using high street brands which have parabens in them http://www.forever-young-uk.co.uk/


I only use organic products in my skin and hair care as well, but they are still beauty products. A man of your age using anti-aging skin care products only harms his skin on longer run. I think you are getting your concepts mixed up: using the time, amount and effort with "natural" beauty products doesn't equal to you being all "natural".


I will agree there are far more dangerous things than beauty products and make up that are harmful to the skin and body like alcohol, excessive smoking, unhealthy diet, dehydration, not wearing SPF factor in the sun and mainly not keeping the skin hydrated.

However I think there's more pressure on women in the media to have that perfect look because of make up. Men can be considered sexy and rugged with time, look at the likes of Daniel Craig and Bruce Willis, many male actors are considered to be attractive far into their 40's, 50's and even 60's.

Women on the other hand are expected to look younger, healthier and more beautiful and I think reaching for the exaggerated standard of beauty makes people go to extreme lengths such as getting injections in their face and spending thousands on cosmetic surgery.



MXH
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,057
Location: Here i stand and face the rain

17 Mar 2013, 11:22 am

Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
I'm not attacking make up, I am perfectly fine with girls who wear make up and if applied correctly, it looks nice. I'm saying that when make up is used to hide imperfections instead of treating skin problems, it creates a new standard and disillusion of beauty to people that they must aim for.

It's similar to saying that you can get to the size of an IFBB professional bodybuilder by simply working out and lifting weights when they use an excessive amount of steroids and supplements to achieve that physique.


But, you are looking to get to an ifbb size by taking excessive amounts of steroids (yes I've heard specifics). So I don't get why you're here being all high and mighty when even your examples are flawed by yourself.

And you also spend more time on your looks than all the women you critique. So I'm not sure what double standard you seem to have


I am not talking about make up in a creative way or for photographic shoots, I am talking about people who use it on a daily basis. I am saying that it masks the skin problems, it doesn't reduce them or treat them, it masks the flaws and that's why the contrast between seeing the before and after photos of those porn stars shows how it masks the problem.

There's also dangerous chemicals in make up and that's why I use completely natural aromatherapy and organic products.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... ke-up.html

Quote:
According to a new book, cosmetics and beauty products often contain toxic ingredients that can cause cancer and other fatal illnesses.

Loopholes in Government regulations are being exploited by manufacturers to allow banned chemicals into over-the-counter products, it claims.

Authors Kim Erickson and Samuel Epstein say many ingredients in make-up have been shown to cause cancer in animals and should never be used as part of a beauty routine.

Good job going around what I said, now actually respond to what I said. Why are you holding people to such accounts and comparing their abuse of makeup to someone abusing steroids when you yourself have admitted to it? Isn't that a bit ironic?



Lilya
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,600
Location: Finland

17 Mar 2013, 11:28 am

Wolfheart wrote:
MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
I'm not attacking make up, I am perfectly fine with girls who wear make up and if applied correctly, it looks nice. I'm saying that when make up is used to hide imperfections instead of treating skin problems, it creates a new standard and disillusion of beauty to people that they must aim for.

It's similar to saying that you can get to the size of an IFBB professional bodybuilder by simply working out and lifting weights when they use an excessive amount of steroids and supplements to achieve that physique.


But, you are looking to get to an ifbb size by taking excessive amounts of steroids (yes I've heard specifics). So I don't get why you're here being all high and mighty when even your examples are flawed by yourself.

And you also spend more time on your looks than all the women you critique. So I'm not sure what double standard you seem to have


I am not talking about make up in a creative way or for photographic shoots, I am talking about people who use it on a daily basis. I am saying that it masks the skin problems, it doesn't reduce them or treat them, it masks the flaws and that's why the contrast between seeing the before and after photos of those porn stars shows how it masks the problem.

There's also dangerous chemicals in make up and that's why I use completely natural aromatherapy and organic products.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... ke-up.html



You got me completely lost now...

"I'm not attacking make up, I am perfectly fine with girls who wear make up and if applied correctly, it looks nice." But you just attacked against make up (again) in your previous post?

"I am not talking about make up in a creative way or for photographic shoots" But you just attacked against the porn stars (again) that have been made up by a professional make up artist for a professional shoot?

"I am talking about people who use it on a daily basis. I am saying that it masks the skin problems, it doesn't reduce them or treat them,""There's also dangerous chemicals in make up and that's why I use completely natural aromatherapy and organic products."
You are far from being the only person in the world who favours or is aware of organic products. Most women wear make up daily and the current trend is to favour products that also have skin protecting, moisturizing and treating effects. In fact, a number of studies have concluded that it is much better for the skin to be protected by a foundation (especially mineral or bb cream) than being exposed to sunlight and pollution by not wearing any while outside. Thus you are wrong.

Also, for the record: Daily Mail is not a news paper (in the way it started as) and certainly not a scientific publication.


_________________
It's not the sinful, but the stupid who are our shame - Oscar Wilde


Lilya
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,600
Location: Finland

17 Mar 2013, 11:32 am

Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Yea, I don't think he understands what freckles look like without makeup. You can easily tell the first and last are wearing enough makeup to blend the freckles into their skin a lot better than just blotches.


All three women are wearing exactly the same products as Beyonce in the above picture, such as concealer, powder, blush, eye liner, lipstick, brow pencil, eye shadow, mascara etc. and hair products. It's just been applied differently and less prominently.

I think it's already become rather clear that Wolf spends more time talking about women and exchanging a few lighthearted online messages with them rather than actually spending time with women. I also find it a bit bizarre that such a manly man who talks so strongly about naturality spends more time and beauty products daily on his appearance than I do, and I consider myself to be fairly conscious about beauty care :?


Natural products with no parabens or chemicals used in developing them, herbal aromatherapy and natural skin care products.

I order from a company called Forever Young which sell various products from chemical peels to eye serums and they all help to slow down the ageing process. Living healthy, taking antioxidants, eating healthy and working out is a lifestyle, Tom Cruise has stayed looking young through the use of organic food and products.

I recommend people to use the website as it is very good as opposed to using high street brands which have parabens in them http://www.forever-young-uk.co.uk/


I only use organic products in my skin and hair care as well, but they are still beauty products. A man of your age using anti-aging skin care products only harms his skin on longer run. I think you are getting your concepts mixed up: using the time, amount and effort with "natural" beauty products doesn't equal to you being all "natural".


I will agree there are far more dangerous things than beauty products and make up that are harmful to the skin and body like alcohol, excessive smoking, unhealthy diet, dehydration, not wearing SPF factor in the sun and mainly not keeping the skin hydrated.

However I think there's more pressure on women in the media to have that perfect look because of make up. Men can be considered sexy and rugged with time, look at the likes of Daniel Craig and Bruce Willis, many male actors are considered to be attractive far into their 40's, 50's and even 60's.

Women on the other hand are expected to look younger, healthier and more beautiful and I think reaching for the exaggerated standard of beauty makes people go to extreme lengths such as getting injections in their face and spending thousands on cosmetic surgery.


?

I'm sorry, but I have completely missed how your last post is anyhow related to the previous ones.


_________________
It's not the sinful, but the stupid who are our shame - Oscar Wilde


Wolfheart
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,971
Location: Kent, England

17 Mar 2013, 2:44 pm

Lilya wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Yea, I don't think he understands what freckles look like without makeup. You can easily tell the first and last are wearing enough makeup to blend the freckles into their skin a lot better than just blotches.


All three women are wearing exactly the same products as Beyonce in the above picture, such as concealer, powder, blush, eye liner, lipstick, brow pencil, eye shadow, mascara etc. and hair products. It's just been applied differently and less prominently.

I think it's already become rather clear that Wolf spends more time talking about women and exchanging a few lighthearted online messages with them rather than actually spending time with women. I also find it a bit bizarre that such a manly man who talks so strongly about naturality spends more time and beauty products daily on his appearance than I do, and I consider myself to be fairly conscious about beauty care :?


Natural products with no parabens or chemicals used in developing them, herbal aromatherapy and natural skin care products.

I order from a company called Forever Young which sell various products from chemical peels to eye serums and they all help to slow down the ageing process. Living healthy, taking antioxidants, eating healthy and working out is a lifestyle, Tom Cruise has stayed looking young through the use of organic food and products.

I recommend people to use the website as it is very good as opposed to using high street brands which have parabens in them http://www.forever-young-uk.co.uk/


I only use organic products in my skin and hair care as well, but they are still beauty products. A man of your age using anti-aging skin care products only harms his skin on longer run. I think you are getting your concepts mixed up: using the time, amount and effort with "natural" beauty products doesn't equal to you being all "natural".


I will agree there are far more dangerous things than beauty products and make up that are harmful to the skin and body like alcohol, excessive smoking, unhealthy diet, dehydration, not wearing SPF factor in the sun and mainly not keeping the skin hydrated.

However I think there's more pressure on women in the media to have that perfect look because of make up. Men can be considered sexy and rugged with time, look at the likes of Daniel Craig and Bruce Willis, many male actors are considered to be attractive far into their 40's, 50's and even 60's.

Women on the other hand are expected to look younger, healthier and more beautiful and I think reaching for the exaggerated standard of beauty makes people go to extreme lengths such as getting injections in their face and spending thousands on cosmetic surgery.


?

I'm sorry, but I have completely missed how your last post is anyhow related to the previous ones.


I'm saying if the standard for beauty keeps going up and up, where does it stop? I'm saying there are extremities of people going on excessive diets whether they are diets of starving themselves or overeating.

I feel like I have been pressured myself in the past to take steroids but I realize now most of the pressure was self created or influenced by the media but fortunately some good friends talked me out of continuing to take them. We look in magazines and feel like we have to live up to what we see in those magazines to be beautiful to society when what really matters is being comfortable in your own skin.

MXH is a good example, he's comfortable in his own skin and with his body but I'm not, I feel like I have to keep pushing myself with work outs to look the best I can even if I go to extremities. I realize now I may have been pushing it too far with extremities of injecting over a gram of steroids, I think you have to have limitations on how far you are willing to go when it comes to achieving this body beautiful or standard of beauty.



Last edited by Wolfheart on 17 Mar 2013, 2:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Wolfheart
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,971
Location: Kent, England

17 Mar 2013, 2:48 pm

It's the same with everything in health, the aspects changed like modelling, more and more models become skinnier and skinnier which influenced a generation of kids to starve themselves and develop eating disorders. Similar to bigorexia where someone thinks they appear small when they are actually muscular, the disorders can affect people to the point that it becomes an obsession.

Image



luvsterriers
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Sep 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,159
Location: Fairfax, VA

17 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
It's the same with everything in health, the aspects changed like modelling, more and more models become skinnier and skinnier which influenced a generation of kids to starve themselves and develop eating disorders. Similar to bigorexia where someone thinks they appear small when they are actually muscular, the disorders can affect people to the point that it becomes an obsession.

Image




:roll: :roll: :x Ugh the ladies on top row look awful! Now Marilyn Monroe was one beautiful actress. I guess being as thin and bony as possible is the thing nowadays. I know I will see plenty of anorexic looking young women when I go to Seoul in the fall. It's so nasty!


_________________
Anna

If you're not happy with yourself, you'll never be happy with somebody else. (Don Omar)


luvsterriers
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Sep 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,159
Location: Fairfax, VA

17 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

meems wrote:
I have literally never heard any of Pitbull's music, which is kind of weird. I love hip hop but don't often dip into the stuff that is spoon fed to people who... I don't know, I guess they like that music.

I do know he has a pretty interesting back story, like most hip hop artists, and in that way I do find artists like him inspiring.

I also know that no matter what an artist says in interviews, they're pretty much putting on a show anytime the cameras are rolling. It's effectively a made up persona that you see in music videos. Despite what information is available about him, unless someone is actually involved in his personal life, they probably don't have the faintest idea what kind of person he really is. Having children with three women doesn't mean a thing in terms of whether or not he's a good or bad person. Open relationships aren't evil, etc. And music produced for the masses probably rarely accurately portrays relationship trends in society. It's a performance. It's not a research paper.

I guess what I'm saying is, it doesn't even matter what he's like. It's not realistic to look to entertainers for an idea of what men want or what kind of relationships you can form etc. To fixate on fiction is only going to make things more confusing.



Who's your favorite hip hop/rap artists? I do like several other songs by hip hop/rap. I do like Will Smith Men In Black from the first movie, 2Pac Changes, and Puff Daddy Missing You. I liked how Bruce Hornsby Just the Way It Is was used in background for 2 Pac's Changes. Also with Missing You, it was Sting's Every Breath You Take in the background. Oh yea Gangster Paradise by Coolio is ok. No Diggity by Blackstreet is good. Crossroads by Bone Thugs N Harmony is good.


_________________
Anna

If you're not happy with yourself, you'll never be happy with somebody else. (Don Omar)


luvsterriers
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Sep 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,159
Location: Fairfax, VA

17 Mar 2013, 4:55 pm

Image


Lucky lady. I wonder if its a music video or a new girlfriend? One of many? She looks old. Oh yea he supposedly dated J Lo who's like 10 years older than him.


_________________
Anna

If you're not happy with yourself, you'll never be happy with somebody else. (Don Omar)


Last edited by luvsterriers on 17 Mar 2013, 4:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.

1000Knives
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Jul 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,036
Location: CT, USA

17 Mar 2013, 4:56 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
Lilya wrote:
MXH wrote:
Yea, I don't think he understands what freckles look like without makeup. You can easily tell the first and last are wearing enough makeup to blend the freckles into their skin a lot better than just blotches.


All three women are wearing exactly the same products as Beyonce in the above picture, such as concealer, powder, blush, eye liner, lipstick, brow pencil, eye shadow, mascara etc. and hair products. It's just been applied differently and less prominently.

I think it's already become rather clear that Wolf spends more time talking about women and exchanging a few lighthearted online messages with them rather than actually spending time with women. I also find it a bit bizarre that such a manly man who talks so strongly about naturality spends more time and beauty products daily on his appearance than I do, and I consider myself to be fairly conscious about beauty care :?


Natural products with no parabens or chemicals used in developing them, herbal aromatherapy and natural skin care products.

I order from a company called Forever Young which sell various products from chemical peels to eye serums and they all help to slow down the ageing process. Living healthy, taking antioxidants, eating healthy and working out is a lifestyle, Tom Cruise has stayed looking young through the use of organic food and products.

I recommend people to use the website as it is very good as opposed to using high street brands which have parabens in them http://www.forever-young-uk.co.uk/


I only use organic products in my skin and hair care as well, but they are still beauty products. A man of your age using anti-aging skin care products only harms his skin on longer run. I think you are getting your concepts mixed up: using the time, amount and effort with "natural" beauty products doesn't equal to you being all "natural".


I will agree there are far more dangerous things than beauty products and make up that are harmful to the skin and body like alcohol, excessive smoking, unhealthy diet, dehydration, not wearing SPF factor in the sun and mainly not keeping the skin hydrated.

However I think there's more pressure on women in the media to have that perfect look because of make up. Men can be considered sexy and rugged with time, look at the likes of Daniel Craig and Bruce Willis, many male actors are considered to be attractive far into their 40's, 50's and even 60's.

Women on the other hand are expected to look younger, healthier and more beautiful and I think reaching for the exaggerated standard of beauty makes people go to extreme lengths such as getting injections in their face and spending thousands on cosmetic surgery.


I don't believe in sunscreen. I think as long as you're tanning in a natural manner, you'll be fine. By natural, I mean going outside and just being outdoors. I feel don't let your skin purposely burn or tan, but if it happens, it's cool. Most sunscreen unless it's organic (and even then...) isn't good for your skin at all. If I gave a s**t about my skin quality, I'd just put some olive oil and aloe on and call it a day.



Lilya
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Mar 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,600
Location: Finland

17 Mar 2013, 5:42 pm

luvsterriers wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
It's the same with everything in health, the aspects changed like modelling, more and more models become skinnier and skinnier which influenced a generation of kids to starve themselves and develop eating disorders. Similar to bigorexia where someone thinks they appear small when they are actually muscular, the disorders can affect people to the point that it becomes an obsession.

Image




:roll: :roll: :x Ugh the ladies on top row look awful! Now Marilyn Monroe was one beautiful actress. I guess being as thin and bony as possible is the thing nowadays. I know I will see plenty of anorexic looking young women when I go to Seoul in the fall. It's so nasty!
Image

Raquel Welch has my choice of physique any time...

Hourglass figure does seem to be back in fashion again, though, although in Asia it's still super skinny. Each body type is different, though; naturally skinny women don't appreciate bashing on their figures any more than larger women do. Ideally women of any size they're most comfortable with could feel beautiful.


_________________
It's not the sinful, but the stupid who are our shame - Oscar Wilde


uwmonkdm
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Mar 2013
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 764
Location: Canada

17 Mar 2013, 6:42 pm

luvsterriers wrote:
Image


Lucky lady. I wonder if its a music video or a new girlfriend? One of many? She looks old. Oh yea he supposedly dated J Lo who's like 10 years older than him.


*throws up a little in his mouth*