Why is it girls have an easier time getting dates than guys?

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30 Dec 2015, 9:31 pm

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well the number of girls out there who are aged 25 and older who have never had a girlfriend, never had a relationship, seems much smaller than the other way around, but like I said before, women probably whine less and complain about it less.

Where are the stats to back this claim up?


it's just what I have observed on the Internet, on forums everywhere


It might even be the case here on this very website.

Perhaps someone should conduct a poll on it. I will draft one right now but if anyone else wants to do it instead, go ahead.



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30 Dec 2015, 9:35 pm

One thing I learned after I lost my virginity: It really doesn't matter if you're a virgin or not.



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31 Dec 2015, 3:18 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
One thing I learned after I lost my virginity: It really doesn't matter if you're a virgin or not.



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... :lol:

If you're a virgin, even if you lie about it, and your partner isn't, they're gonna be able to tell. Trust me, my ex was a sexpert and had slept with at least 100 men and probably had intercourse at least 1,000 times(she turned 33 earlier this month). Women who have *some* sexual experience already can tell if you're inexperienced sexually and quite often they're turned off by it because the more experienced they are, the higher their expectations of performance. Sex is something you learn by doing. When you do it for the very first time, you have no clue what you're doing.



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31 Dec 2015, 5:53 am

The natural order of things: you only qualify to start gaining experience when you already have a lot of it.

As a corollary, virginity does matter, at least before you manage to get rid of it. In fact, it matters more and more as you lag farther and farther behind your peers, who have a lot of experience already and will only keep getting more, while you won't. You'll be more and more decisively doomed never to get any.


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31 Dec 2015, 10:45 am

It always annoys me when people who are not virgins go around telling you how virginity doesn't matter. Why can't people shut up about things they don't know?



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31 Dec 2015, 11:38 am

I was a virgin once. I remember the experience.

Don't tell me to shut up :P

I just think too much emphasis is placed on it. I placed too much emphasis on it when I was a virgin. I thought the very act of lovin' would solve all my problems.

Nope...They still remained!! !!



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31 Dec 2015, 11:41 am

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It always annoys me when people who are not virgins go around telling you how virginity doesn't matter. Why can't people shut up about things they don't know?


Well I take it most non-virgins, were virgins at some point and can gauge weather it seemed people cared or not about it when they were. Hence part of why it shouldn't matter, everyone's a virgin at some point. Also even if people do care they only way they know is if you bloody tell them anyways....its not like they can take one look and be like 'VIRGIN!' and then shun you because oh god you never had sex before.

At best it seems most people IRL might see it a bit strange if someone is still a virgin past their early 20s...but I don't think its the stamp of banishment from any form of socialization some of you seem to think it is. And cannot speak for all females but I have never had 'is he a virgin or not' as one of the things I consider before wanting to be in a relationship.


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31 Dec 2015, 11:45 am

I think any person worth his/her salt doesn't really care about the virginity status of a person whom he/she might be interested in.



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31 Dec 2015, 11:56 am

WantToHaveALife wrote:
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well the number of girls out there who are aged 25 and older who have never had a girlfriend, never had a relationship, seems much smaller than the other way around, but like I said before, women probably whine less and complain about it less.

Where are the stats to back this claim up?


it's just what I have observed on the Internet, on forums everywhere


Well have you seen the kind of responses women get when they complain about not having a relationship, being virgins or simply being sexually frusterated? That might be part of why they don't complain as much about it on the internet as guys. A lot of 'you're a female you can just go get sex anywhere you want.' or 'women can't be sexually frustrated' or 'all you have to do is go out and look pretty and you'll get a date'.


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31 Dec 2015, 12:22 pm

There definitely is a stigma attached male virginity especially past a certain age that there isn't with females, a male is more often seen as defective whereas a female virginity is seen more times than not as something pure and good. Now women that care about that sort of thing might not be worth their salt, the same with those that care about stuff like height and money but the problem with that is that you can't tell this by looking at the person and it eliminates a pretty large portion of the population. The reason why men "whine" so much is because of how strong the social stigma is.



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31 Dec 2015, 12:41 pm

Jacoby wrote:
There definitely is a stigma attached male virginity especially past a certain age that there isn't with females, a male is more often seen as defective whereas a female virginity is seen more times than not as something pure and good. Now women that care about that sort of thing might not be worth their salt, the same with those that care about stuff like height and money but the problem with that is that you can't tell this by looking at the person and it eliminates a pretty large portion of the population. The reason why men "whine" so much is because of how strong the social stigma is.


But by continuing to make such a big deal of virginity themselves, aren't they just perpetuating the stigma and giving it power. I mean I can get venting some and complaining because it is an obnoxious stigma, but openly putting themselves down and insisting that they and all other male virgins are worthless losers just seems to continue the stigma if anything.


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31 Dec 2015, 1:01 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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There definitely is a stigma attached male virginity especially past a certain age that there isn't with females, a male is more often seen as defective whereas a female virginity is seen more times than not as something pure and good. Now women that care about that sort of thing might not be worth their salt, the same with those that care about stuff like height and money but the problem with that is that you can't tell this by looking at the person and it eliminates a pretty large portion of the population. The reason why men "whine" so much is because of how strong the social stigma is.


But by continuing to make such a big deal of virginity themselves, aren't they just perpetuating the stigma and giving it power. I mean I can get venting some and complaining because it is an obnoxious stigma, but openly putting themselves down and insisting that they and all other male virgins are worthless losers just seems to continue the stigma if anything.


Stigmas continue regardless, it doesn't matter what a certain small subset of the population does when the overwhelming majority think otherwise. Positive self talk is not going to change other people's opinions, it's just trying to convince yourself(it never does) and to me more dishonest than anything since it is not how you actually feel inside but rather just a way not to upset other people. Judging by history, shutting up and putting on a pleasant face has never changed anything.



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31 Dec 2015, 1:09 pm

Women have it easier in most walks of life than men today. It's easy for feminists to forget how men are unfairly stigmatised these days.


pros of being a women

Easier to get a boyfriend/marriage
Treated with more respect and courtesy
Longer life expectancy
Not expected to be the breadwinner of a family.
Better support network
Can get away with violence towards your partner without being punished the same way a man would be.
Age not being a big drawback to attracting the opposite sex


Cons
Unfair attitudes that you need protection thus creating barriers to independence.
Unequal treatment in the workplace compared to men
Having to endure childbirth because people expect you to have babies
People treating you like a vulnerable child



Pros of being a man
You can live life the way you want to without people thinking your incapable of being independent.
Not expected to be really social like a woman would be
Society regards you as being more important

Cons of being a man
Not always treated with the same respect and courtesy compared to a woman
Constantly being told to 'man up' and be brave in a lot of situations (this applies especially if your a tall man)
Unfair expectations that you to go to work/be the breadwinner of family just because of your gender
Being ganged up on by both genders
Can't cry and express emotion without being made fun of
Expected to chase and make the first move when it comes to the dating world
Shallow girls not giving you the time of the day just because your under 6ft
If your a 40 year old man trying to pick up younger women people think your a perv


Grrr it makes my blood boil the way men are treated by society in this current point in time. :evil:



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31 Dec 2015, 2:04 pm

Peacesells wrote:
It always annoys me when people who are not virgins go around telling you how virginity doesn't matter. Why can't people shut up about things they don't know?



When you're a teenager, it actually doesn't matter that much in the bedroom despite the banter you hear from your peers. Because EVERYONE is born a virgin and we all have to lose it somehow(and mind you non-consensual sex doesn't count and that's another topic beyond the scope of this thread). But the older you get, the more experience your peers have and like it or lump it, you *will* be compared to your peers because for the vast majority of women, you aren't their only option. So it all depends on the age range you fall into. If you're male and you're still a virgin by chance when you reach your 30s, you'd better lose it ASAP because I daresay that if you haven't lost it by age 40....It's too late.



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31 Dec 2015, 2:56 pm

Those who lost their virginity early may have been virgins once, but they definitely don't know what it's like to be still a virgin many years later, and not by choice.


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31 Dec 2015, 3:03 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
Those who lost their virginity early may have been virgins once, but they definitely don't know what it's like to be still a virgin many years later, and not by choice.


That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.