Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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The Grand Inquisitor
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16 Nov 2018, 9:56 am

magnetowasright wrote:

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Aspie19828 wrote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/90n4s6/if_youve_made_an_attractiveness_scale_this/
1 to 10 scale attractiveness for males and females.
For the guys it is all about that strong jaw. Facial symmetry + Strongest jawline wins.

Hence why growing a beard is a great alternative for men with weaker jaws.

but those of us with Asian genes can't do that either.

I'm 36 and I still can't grow a beard.

Well that does make things difficult. Can you grow any style of facial hair?

I guess not being able to grow a beard isn't really something I considered as my own facial hair started coming in quite early. If I didn't embrace facial hair I probably would have started shaving my peach fuzz when I was 13. By age 14 I could grow a proper moustache, 15 I could grow a chinstrap and since then I've rarely been clean shaven. Not necessarily because of my weak jaw but it does help disguise it.

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16 Nov 2018, 12:56 pm

magnetowasright wrote:

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Do you realise that the subforum that is posted in (r/IncelTears) is mocking incels and the stupid s**t they post in their forums like the scale in the OP? You posted an incel meme that the rest of reddit is laughing at for being so stupid, and you posted it unironically. That's amazing. :lol:

I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.

Honestly, I think the lack of adequate social skills is a much bigger problem for many men than looks.

A good antidote for that is to treat women as actual people and not "nurturing bots" who will fix all of your problems....

Wow! More SJWs making bullsh!t assumptions to support their strawman arguments. It's like I'm on the Internet or something.

Please do show where I ever said anything that implied that women are "nurturing bots."

I never could understand the difference between a woman expressing romantic interest vs simply being friendly. Every time in my life I thought someone was interested, she would eventually tell me she only wants to be friends. I'm fine with friends. I just don't know how to identify someone interested in dating.

Sorry, I had a few beers last night and I think I meant to direct that at someone else.

Eek. Again, sorry about that. Oh, and I think your username's a hoot.

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16 Nov 2018, 2:46 pm

I was fairly effeminate looking until I entered my 30s, I never worked out and I was quite thin yet I always had a reasonable amount of attention from girls. My problem was that I was far too picky.

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16 Nov 2018, 7:16 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:

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I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.

It's a good thing they shut down r/incel or he may have linked to the original post instead.

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16 Nov 2018, 9:53 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:

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I mean, read the comments. The scale and the idea it represents is being thoroughly trashed in the comments.

It's a good thing they shut down r/incel or he may have linked to the original post instead.

They (the reddit incel community) actually founded a new subforum--and I won't name it here because I don't want to draw traffic to it--that has since been "quarantined", but is still accessible behind a warning screen about "extreme content". It's just as bad as r/incels was and is full of the same sort of stuff that got r/incels banned but for some reason reddit seems hesitant to get rid of it completely.

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17 Nov 2018, 1:12 am

In social situations, I would be the mouse, rarely talking besides one or two word responses. Random jerks picking on me, insulting me, picking fights, fighting back only made things worse. They would say crap behind my back and spread rumours and more randoms would try and break me. Small incidents would ruin my day and week. How dare weak, cowardly creeps insult me?
I swapped schools multiple times to get away from people picking on me. It ended when I quit altogether and sunk hours into online gaming. Avoiding social situations is perfect no risk scenario of no random idiots giving me trouble!

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17 Nov 2018, 1:24 am

I believe in the saying "don't believe everything you read", especially on the internet.

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17 Nov 2018, 2:45 am

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I think it's wrong--and foolish--to judge all men who are involuntarily celibate by those online groups. They are, I'm sure, just a small subset of a larger group. (And who know how large that group might actually be, when our society puts so much emphasis on sex that many consider it quite embarrassing to be honest about their actual sexual "status"?)

That aside, people should ask themselves if the angry men on those sites are not involved in relationships precisely because they are so disagreeable. If they've never gotten into an intimate relationship or haven't been in one recently, it could be that potential dates/mates were put off by what they at least perceived as hostility.

To be clear, magneto, there are plenty of people in our society who won't see you as such a nasty person at all just because you're single!

I could see that, I mean I once had some guy call me a lying b***h...He had very greasy hair like not showered in days and dirty clothes and saw me on the bus. And I forget how exactly the conversation went he implied he'd like my number to get together and I told him I was already dating someone(which I was) so I wasn't interested in that. And he called me a lying b***h for simply stating I was already seeing someone and didn't think it appropriate due to that. Granted not so sure I would have been interested even if I was single but either way...you don't call someone a lying b***h because they don't want to go out with you.

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17 Nov 2018, 3:02 am

TW1ZTY wrote:

I believe in the saying "don't believe everything you read", especially on the internet.

"The problem with internet quotes is that you can't always depend on their accuracy." ~Abraham Lincoln, 1864.

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17 Nov 2018, 3:11 am

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Being an incel is being Sheldon Cooper's evil twin brother!

But Sheldon's not Incel. Even before he became sexually active with Amy he was voluntarily celibate, as he had no desire for sex.

I actually think Sheldon might be asexual. Incels are clearly not asexual so they are nothing like Sheldon.

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17 Nov 2018, 5:13 am

I just get online and say my life is so boring, my life sucks and I have been complaining now for around 20 years. We need a word to describe a guy who lives a boring life because he never fits into society. He does not live the dream life as depicted on TV and in Hollywood movies. My life sucks so much!

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17 Nov 2018, 5:16 am

there is always somebody else whose life sucks also. we tend to forget about these other people and concentrate on our own suckiness.

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17 Nov 2018, 8:31 am

I don’t live a “dream life as described in Hollywood movies.” Most people don’t. Most NT’s don’t.

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17 Nov 2018, 8:56 am

Instead of identifying as involuntarily celibate, do something about it. How we see ourselves amplifies how we are as people so if you identify yourself that way you're gonna stay that way.

Everything in life takes effort. If you don't have any luck dating do something about it - fix your hair, practice your social skills, get some nice clothes, find a hobby and become good at it so you build your confidence and also come off as more interesting to others etc. Traditionally unattractive men get girls everyday because they're confident (without being ego and self-obsessed) and funny, talented, charming and because they're happy and positive. You avoid people who give out negative vibes and feel attracted to and good with someone who gives out positive vibes. But if you refuse to do anything to better yourself you can't whine about being involuntarily celibate either. No woman wants to comfort a big baby who spends his days crying about how miserable his life is, where's the attraction in that?

This generally seems to be a bigger problem among aspie men than women. That is because us women usually make more effort so we also have better luck. I've gone on dates with men who's not even made an effort to wear a good outfit or barely brush his hair before. Did anyone ever tell you about the importance of first impressions?

I was bullied for 9 years but I don't go around identifying as "bullied", as soon as the bullying stopped I dropped that label and made an effort to better myself. I've never had any problem with dating or making friends when I want to since.

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17 Nov 2018, 10:01 am

I have only ever asked 5 chick out in real life and I was rejected each time. I thought better to pay hookers, instant score every time but I have to pay! I am not good looking enough to attract women.

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17 Nov 2018, 10:29 am

Do you have a picture of yourself, Aspie 19828?

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